Do You Feel Restored After Sleep?

[JTL]

@Leo Gura

23 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

But in the EU they take 60% of your income in taxes.

My effective tax rate is like 25%. So the sucker is you. I can pay $1000 for a sleep study and still have thousands left over for a rainy day from the income my government didn't take from me.

Thats not true. Here is a source for personal income tax in france: https://taxsummaries.pwc.com/france/individual/taxes-on-personal-income.  I think alot of americans dont understand how taxes work in alot european countries, yes there high top tax for the highest earners but no where near 60% lol. Here is an example from france: If you make EUR 60'000 a year living in the region of Île-de-France you will be taxed EUR 16'449. That means that your net pay will be EUR 43'551 per year or EUR 3'629.25 per month. Your average tax rate is 27.4%. Here you can check it out: https://www.service-public.gouv.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F1419?lang=en

Edited 17 hours ago by JTL

[Carl-Richard]

Are you overtraining? What's your exercise regimen? I noticed I had to cut back on some training last year because the volume and intensity was simply too much combined with all the other work I was doing (I noticed it by not waking up rested).

[Natasha Tori Maru]

4 hours ago, Alexop said:

Yeah, US healthcare system is amazing

Wow. This is so sad. Fucken takes it like a champ though - bad situation but doesn't let it turn him into a negative blackpilled snail.

The smarter thing to do is put away savings to use as medical funds (I have a separate account just for this) as private health in America SUCKS. Absolute grift/scam.

But when you are young, invincible feeling and full of testosterone, health issues don't seem real - that is just some shit old people have to deal with!!!! So you spend it on disposable crap. /s

[Alexop]

Let the private sector get too involved in inelastic demand systems like schools, healthcare, housing etc. and see how it plagues them like some sneaky parasite. 

They are in there for profit. I hope these neo-libs will understand some day that the private sector is about profit. If profit does not align with people's interests, then they need to be heavily regulated by the state or even kicked out completely form that specific "market".

[SimpleGuy]

10 hours ago, Elliott said:

You sound way too sedentary, i know my body would feel like crap, and get bad sleep. Ever try hot yoga? 

Yes, I sit 12 hours a day. Haven`t tried hot yoga. Wtf is that? 

[SimpleGuy]

9 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Are you overtraining? What's your exercise regimen? I noticed I had to cut back on some training last year because the volume and intensity was simply too much combined with all the other work I was doing (I noticed it by not waking up rested).

I don`t.

[Elliott]

3 hours ago, Alexop said:

Let the private sector get too involved in inelastic demand systems like schools, healthcare, housing etc. and see how it plagues them like some sneaky parasite. 

They are in there for profit. I hope these neo-libs will understand some day that the private sector is about profit. If profit does not align with people's interests, then they need to be heavily regulated by the state or even kicked out completely form that specific "market".

So, you think Jeff Bezos has bad doctors? You say profit motive is bad here. Do you think bezos would go to Swedens state hospital, or his capitalist American doctors?

You just find a better hospital here, we have the most prestigious hospitals in the world, the Mayo clinic and the Cleveland clinic..... it's like hiring a lawyer or mechanic.

Our cultures are quite different, people in government jobs like teachers, a lot of them just show up for pay, they suck. There's not true nationalism or community like in Europe.

[Alexop]

2 hours ago, Elliott said:

So, you think Jeff Bezos has bad doctors? You say profit motive is bad here. Do you think bezos would go to Swedens state hospital, or his capitalist American doctors?

You just find a better hospital here, we have the most prestigious hospitals in the world, the Mayo clinic and the Cleveland clinic..... it's like hiring a lawyer or mechanic.

Our cultures are quite different, people in government jobs like teachers, a lot of them just show up for pay, they suck. There's not true nationalism or community like in Europe.

If the gov could channel more resources in the schooling system, the teachers would be better.

I get the difference in culture, I was actually contemplating that deeply today. I was contemplating why USA and Romania are so much worse than Scandinavia. It is because on our shit home countries, is every man for himself. It is build your own boat if you want to float. I was mocking these Swedes for being a herd of conformist sheep. But this Law of Jante culture of sacrificing your individualism for the group's sake brought them a livable, functioning country. They build a big boat for everyone in the country. Well at least they did it in the past, because for the last years, the neo-liberal plague started to affect their countries also.

In the end it is us moving to their country. No Swede moves to fucking Romania. Maybe they move to USA, but USA also grew because of the strong Stage Blue conformist culture of the 50s-70s and the imperalism of course. Just to be destroyed by excess of Orange craziness later. Counterintuitively, the countries who are more united are killing it on the capitalist global market. Look how China is kicking our asses.

Of course Bezos will choose a fancy hospital in his country. But the thing is to make a system where everyone can afford it. 99% of people can't even dream of having his money and affording the luxuries he can afford.

We have to strike the right balance so everyone is pleased. Not everyone is a Bezos or a Leo, to be able to outsmart and outcompete everyone. Some people are just born less ambitious and less masculine. They just want to follow the rules and conform. And this bullshit that comes from the right that there are not enough resources for everyone, that is stupid. Especially now with so much AI and technology, the productivity is amazing. It is just that we are too selfish to share the fruits with everyone. 

I am happy to pay for the sick and elderly in Sweden. They also paid for the infrastructure and the schooling of these smart people I have around. Not having retarded idiots around did not come from thin air, it came from the hard work of those before me who paid for high quality schooling that everyone could afford. They actually worked too hard for the actual teen generation here, it pampered them, it made them weak. A balance has to be found.

Taxes are low in the US, wow cool. But you also have tons of uneducated morons who voted for a buffoon who is now tearing down the country. There are no functioning trains, healthcare is a scam, towns are car infested nightmares. People are so fat and sick it makes me sick to watch it. Big corporations lobby the gov so the thin public resources go where they wish: into war and shit

Edited 4 hours ago by Alexop

[Entrepreneur]

On 12/1/2025 at 5:12 AM, SimpleGuy said:

Hey, I noticed recently that I actually don`t fully recover after night`s sleep. I eat healthy, exercise enough, take vitamins, have good sleep hygiene and all this healthy stuff I really do. Every day I wake up with some muscle soreness, some heaviness in the body.

Is this common thing among people or not?

Thank you for reading!

One of my highest health priorities is getting enough high-quality sleep.   I understand its importance for maintaining health, vitality, and youthfulness.

I'm in my 50's.  Around age 35ish I really upped my efforts to improve my health and physical fitness.  I started paying a lot more attention to my sleep around age 40.  Prior to that I took my sleep for granted.    Here are some of the things I did that worked for me:

* On days where I don't get enough exercise or my exercise isn't intense enough, I will not have very much deep sleep at all.   I workout every day.  But sometimes my workouts are just 20 minutes walking at 3.3MPH on a 2% incline on a treadmill.   That isn't enough exercise to stimulate deep sleep for me.  I think it is tied to a lack of growth hormone because the exercise isn't strenuous enough.  It doesn't take that much higher-intensity exercise to stimulate deep sleep for me.  Simple things like a meager 4 minutes of HIIT will do it or banging out 40 reps of a bench press with a 40lb dumbbell in each hand.   Doing either of those will give me a small muscle pump (muscles feel slightly strained afterwards, but not completely spent).  Then my deep sleep stage cycles combine for a total of about 1 hour of super deep sleep.  Without some intense exercise, my deepest sleep is sometimes 15 minutes total or even less.

* I bought an Oura ring to track my sleep and sleep stages.   Prior to buying that I had no way of measuring my sleep quality other than just asking myself how I feel after waking up in the morning.   Being able to track my sleep better has been incredibly insightful.  It helped me learn a lot about myself and what things really matter.  (Like exercise intensity drastically impacting my deepest sleep stage)

* If I eat supper at or before 6PM I will sleep WAAAAAY better than if I eat later than that.    My bedtime is typically 9-9:30 ish PM.   My sleep gets progressively worse the later I eat supper.   If I eat right before going to bed, my sleep is guaranteed to be lousy.   My heart rate will remain high all night long even when in deep sleep stages.   If I eat early enough, my resting heart rate gets down into the lower 50's in terms of beats per minute.  If I eat late, it can exceed 100bpm during sleep.  Yes you read that right - exceed 100bpm depending on what I ate or drank.   Alcohol really raises it.   Food won't always make it that high, but it will always be higher - often times 70-90bpm all night long or until 4-5AM.  I wake up naturally without an alarm around 6AM these days, some days much earlier, some days a little later.

* Food also raises body temperature during sleep.   For your deepest sleep, you want your body to cool down, especially your head, as much as possible without getting so cold that it is uncomfortable.

* Any more than 1 alcoholic drink after 6PM negatively impacts the quality of my sleep.   One glass of wine, or beer, or cocktail, with supper is fine.  More than one begins to proportionately lower my sleep quality.   Obviously, going to bed hammered ruins it.  You think it's better because you fall asleep instantly.   But when you look at what your body was doing when you slept, you understand how terrible it is for your health.  It is worse for your sleep than you think.

* Keeping a consistent sleep schedule is VERY important for sleep quality.   If I maintain the same bedtime (within 15 minutes) and wake time (within 15 minutes) every day, my sleep gets slightly better each day that I maintain that regularity.  

* I mostly avoid liquids after supper so that my bladder can be fully emptied before climbing into bed.

* I bought a more comfortable and firmer mattress (Tempurpedic knock off) and an additional foam gel pad for the top.   

* I bought blackout curtains for my bedroom.   This made a noticeable difference immediately.

* I try to get natural light into my eyes as early as possible every morning to help reset my circadian rhythm.

* I changed the bulb on my nightstand to a red one to minimize blue light exposure near bedtime.   If I am using my tablet or phone close to bedtime, I wear blue blocker glasses to block a lot of the blue light which could otherwise disrupt natural melatonin production as well as disrupt my circadian rhythm.

Supplements I take for sleep that work really well for me:

* Melatonin - I have taken anywhere from 0.3g up to 5g.  It all worked well.  5g used to make me wake up groggy.   Now it doesn't.  So I take 5g every night before bed.   Really helps me fall asleep quickly.

* Glycine - I take 5g every night right before bed.   It helps lower my core body temperature which increases the amount of time I spend in the deepest sleep stage.

* Magnesium - not sure about the dosage.  It is one pill - whatever my brand's single pill dosage is (guessing 500mg).   This helps me stay asleep through the night.  I wake up less often and can get back to sleep more easily if I do wake up.

 

I love my Oura ring, but it's sleep tracking isn't perfect.   It is supposed to be one of the best wearables for measuring sleep.  But if I watch television for an hour before going to bed, it says I went to bed when I sat on the couch.   This is BS because it will say that even when I am fully awake engaged in conversation.   This inaccuracy annoys me and makes me question how accurate the rest is.   I ordered a Polar Verity Sense strap for my arm that is supposed to be even more accurate.   It is due to arrive this weekend.  I am hoping it records properly where the Oura ring has not.  Fingers crossed.

I also monitor my blood glucose with a continuous glucose monitor.  I am not diabetic, but it runs in my family.  So I want to prevent it.   My CGM has also been exceptionally eye-opening for me in learning how food affects my body.   My blood sugar also affects my sleep quite a bit.   The lower and more stable my blood glucose is all night, the more restful my sleep is.   Another reason not to eat anywhere close to bed.  I want my stomach empty and the vast majority of my food digested before hitting the pillow.

Edited 3 hours ago by Entrepreneur

[SimpleGuy]

4 minutes ago, Entrepreneur said:

One of my highest health priorities is getting enough high-quality sleep.   I understand its importance for maintaining health, vitality, and youthfulness.

I'm in my 50's.  Around age 35ish I really upped my efforts to improve my health and physical fitness.  I started paying a lot more attention to my sleep around age 40.  Prior to that I took my sleep for granted.    Here are some of the things I did that worked for me:

* On days where I don't get enough exercise or my exercise isn't intense enough, I will not have very much deep sleep at all.   I workout every day.  But sometimes my workouts are just 20 minutes walking at 3.3MPH on a 2% incline on a treadmill.   That isn't enough exercise to stimulate deep sleep for me.  I think it is tied to a lack of growth hormone because the exercise isn't strenuous enough.  It doesn't take that much higher-intensity exercise to stimulate deep sleep for me.  Simple things like a meager 4 minutes of HIIT will do it or banging out 40 reps of a bench press with a 40lb dumbbell in each hand.   Doing either of those will give me a small muscle pump (muscles feel slightly strained afterwards, but not completely spent).  Then my deep sleep stage cycles combine for a total of about 1 hour of super deep sleep.  Without some intense exercise, my deepest sleep is sometimes 15 minutes total or even less.

* I bought an Oura ring to track my sleep and sleep stages.   Prior to buying that I had no way of measuring my sleep quality other than just asking myself how I feel after waking up in the morning.   Being able to track my sleep better has been incredibly insightful.  It helped me learn a lot about myself and what things really matter.  (Like exercise intensity drastically impacting my deepest sleep stage)

* If I eat supper at or before 6PM I will sleep WAAAAAY better than if I eat later than that.    My bedtime is typically 9-9:30 ish PM.   My sleep gets progressively worse the later I eat supper.   If I eat right before going to bed, my sleep is guaranteed to be lousy.   My heart rate will remain high all night long even when in deep sleep stages.   If I eat early enough, my resting heart rate gets down into the lower 50's in terms of beats per minute.  If I eat late, it can exceed 100bpm during sleep.  Yes you read that right - exceed 100bpm depending on what I ate or drank.   Alcohol really raises it.   Food won't always make it that high, but it will always be higher - often times 70-90bpm all night long or until 4-5AM.  I wake up naturally without an alarm around 6AM these days, some days much earlier, some days a little later.

* Food also raises body temperature during sleep.   For your deepest sleep, you want your body to cool down, especially your head, as much as possible without getting so cold that it is uncomfortable.

* Any more than 1 alcoholic drink after 6PM negatively impacts the quality of my sleep.   One glass of wine, or beer, or cocktail, with supper is fine.  More than one begins to proportionately lower my sleep quality.   Obviously, going to bed hammered ruins it.  You think it's better because you fall asleep instantly.   But when you look at what your body was doing when you slept, you understand how terrible it is for your health.  It is worse for your sleep than you think.

* Keeping a consistent sleep schedule is VERY important for sleep quality.   If I maintain the same bedtime (within 15 minutes) and wake time (within 15 minutes) every day, my sleep gets slightly better each day that I maintain that regularity.  

* I mostly avoid liquids after supper so that my bladder can be fully emptied before climbing into bed.

* I bought a more comfortable and firmer mattress (Tempurpedic knock off) and an additional foam gel pad for the top.   

* I bought blackout curtains for my bedroom.   This made a noticeable difference immediately.

* I try to get natural light into my eyes as early as possible to help reset my circadian rhythm.

* I changed the bulb on my nightstand to a red one to minimize blue light exposure near bedtime.   If I am using my tablet or phone close to bedtime, I wear blue blocker glasses to block a lot of the blue light which could otherwise disrupt natural melatonin production as well as disrupt my circadian rhythm.

Supplements I take for sleep that work really well for me:

* Melatonin - I have taken anywhere from 0.3g up to 5g.  It all worked well.  5g used to make me wake up groggy.   Now it doesn't.  So I take 5g every night before bed.   Really helps me fall asleep quickly.

* Glycine - I take 5g every night right before bed.   It helps lower my core body temperature which increases the amount of time I spend in the deepest sleep stage.

* Magnesium - not sure about the dosage.  It is one pill - whatever my brand's single pill dosage is (guessing 500mg).   This helps me stay asleep through the night.  I wake up less often and can get back to sleep more easily if I do wake up.

 

I love my Oura ring, but it's sleep tracking isn't perfect.   It is supposed to be one of the best wearables for measuring sleep.  But if I watch television for an hour before going to bed, it says I went to bed when I sat on the couch.   This is BS because it will say that even when I am fully awake engaged in conversation.   This inaccuracy annoys me and makes me question how accurate the rest is.   I ordered a Polar Verity Sense strap for my arm that is supposed to be even more accurate.   It is due to arrive this weekend.  I am hoping it records properly where the Oura ring has not.  Fingers crossed.

I also monitor my blood glucose with a continuous glucose monitor.  I am not diabetic, but it runs in my family.  So I want to prevent it.   My CGM has also been exceptionally eye-opening for me in learning how food affects my body.   My blood sugar also affects my sleep quite a bit.   The lower and more stable my blood glucose is all night, the more restful my sleep is.   Another reason not to eat anywhere close to bed.  I want my stomach empty and the vast majority of my food digested before hitting the pillow.

thanks daddy 

[Entrepreneur]

8 minutes ago, SimpleGuy said:

thanks daddy 

Welcome!

[Elliott]

3 hours ago, Alexop said:

If the gov could channel more resources in the schooling system, the teachers would be better.

I get the difference in culture, I was actually contemplating that deeply today. I was contemplating why USA and Romania are so much worse than Scandinavia. It is because on our shit home countries, is every man for himself. It is build your own boat if you want to float. I was mocking these Swedes for being a herd of conformist sheep. But this Law of Jante culture of sacrificing your individualism for the group's sake brought them a livable, functioning country. They build a big boat for everyone in the country. Well at least they did it in the past, because for the last years, the neo-liberal plague started to affect their countries also.

In the end it is us moving to their country. No Swede moves to fucking Romania. Maybe they move to USA, but USA also grew because of the strong Stage Blue conformist culture of the 50s-70s and the imperalism of course. Just to be destroyed by excess of Orange craziness later. Counterintuitively, the countries who are more united are killing it on the capitalist global market. Look how China is kicking our asses.

Of course Bezos will choose a fancy hospital in his country. But the thing is to make a system where everyone can afford it. 99% of people can't even dream of having his money and affording the luxuries he can afford.

We have to strike the right balance so everyone is pleased. Not everyone is a Bezos or a Leo, to be able to outsmart and outcompete everyone. Some people are just born less ambitious and less masculine. They just want to follow the rules and conform. And this bullshit that comes from the right that there are not enough resources for everyone, that is stupid. Especially now with so much AI and technology, the productivity is amazing. It is just that we are too selfish to share the fruits with everyone. 

I am happy to pay for the sick and elderly in Sweden. They also paid for the infrastructure and the schooling of these smart people I have around. Not having retarded idiots around did not come from thin air, it came from the hard work of those before me who paid for high quality schooling that everyone could afford. They actually worked too hard for the actual teen generation here, it pampered them, it made them weak. A balance has to be found.

Taxes are low in the US, wow cool. But you also have tons of uneducated morons who voted for a buffoon who is now tearing down the country. There are no functioning trains, healthcare is a scam, towns are car infested nightmares. People are so fat and sick it makes me sick to watch it. Big corporations lobby the gov so the thin public resources go where they wish: into war and shit

Our system isn't as bad as you think, is my only point. There's good doctors and bad doctors at every financial level. We even have free clinics doctors and hospitals do.

Even in universities where the professors become millionaires, many SUCK, at big name universities. We do however, have amazing free library systems.

I don't support low taxes. But healthcare problems here are mostly from individuals personal choices, extremely unhealthy. That obviously drives up demand and prices, and opportunity for exploitation. Culture.

[Carl-Richard]

6 hours ago, SimpleGuy said:

I don`t.

What is your exercise regimen?

[SimpleGuy]

7 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

What is your exercise regimen?

I do a little workout every day. It`s either 3 sets of pull-ups or 3 sets of dead hang.

[Leo Gura]

America is awesome if you're rich and sucks if you're poor.

[SimpleGuy]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

America is awesome if you're rich and sucks if you're poor.

Remember that you are saying that from a perspective of a quite successful person. And you success in life is quite predetermined by obstacles like country you were born in. Imagine being born Leo in Gaza or Liberia or Bangladesh. Let`s see what would you say about socialism.

So you defending so much capitalism is quite selfish of yours.

[Carl-Richard]

9 minutes ago, SimpleGuy said:

I do a little workout every day. It`s either 3 sets of pull-ups or 3 sets of dead hang.

Add at least two-three rest days. Your body does not recover in a day.

[Yimpa]

6 hours ago, SimpleGuy said:

Haven`t tried hot yoga. Wtf is that? 

 

[Eskilon]

32 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

America is awesome if you're rich and sucks if you're poor.

You can say this about any place basically, doesnt say much

Edited 1 hour ago by Eskilon

[SimpleGuy]

52 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Add at least two-three rest days. Your body does not recover in a day.

Does 3 sets of pull-ups really wear body so much?