Dry Fasting Breaks the Ego

[Ramasta9]

4 hours ago, Monster Energy said:

You’ve got it wrong. It doesn’t matter if I use AI to help shape the sentences, the thoughts and the meaning behind them are still mine. I’m not pretending to be someone else and I’m not trying to fool anybody. If the wording sounds cleaner than usual sometimes, fine, but the perspective is still coming from me. Calling that gaslighting is really stretching it.

 

Well said, this forum is full of messed up, ignorant and confused people. I too use the AI to help me articulate things better sometimes. Nothing wrong about it. They almost make it seem like "you're cheating" lmao... I'm sure you'll get a taste of the level of consciousness on these forums soon enough.

The only reasons I pop back in from time to time is because circumstances and old friends. These topics are still too triggering for the masses because its so far beyond anything they have even tasted.

Edited 5 hours ago by Ramasta9

[Hojo]

@Ramasta9 Needing ai to help you write is egoic. its that your thought going into and coming out of AI get skewed into the ais opinions and come out as slop. You are cheating the person out of human interaction and genuine communication. Its bad for the person you are talking to and is selfish. Why don't you just go talk to an AI? Its insulting to the person you talk to the reason you don't just sit and talk to AI is cause you want to talk to a human. If you want to respond with AI then just talk to the robot not a human. It sounds like you are using AI in these replies even but I'm not sure.

Why are you scared to be seen as a retard? If you need AI to help you reply to a human than you are far gone in la la land.

The human you want to talk to is being genuine and you reply with robots ideas. 

Its like if a friend asked you to draw them a picture and you ai generated an image for them cause you suck at drawing. They would be insulted and never ask again cause they could have done that themselves.

Edited 5 hours ago by Hojo

[Ramasta9]

23 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Ramasta9 Needing ai to help you write is egoic. its that your thought going into and coming out of AI get skewed into the ais opinions and come out as slop. You are cheating the person out of human interaction and genuine communication. Its bad for the person you are talking to and is selfish. Why don't you just go talk to an AI? Its insulting to the person you talk to the reason you don't just sit and talk to AI is cause you want to talk to a human. If you want to respond with AI then just talk to the robot not a human. It sounds like you are using AI in these replies even but I'm not sure.

Why are you scared to be seen as a retard? If you need AI to help you reply to a human than you are far gone in la la land.

The human you want to talk to is being genuine and you reply with robots ideas. 

Its like if a friend asked you to draw them a picture and you ai generated an image for them cause you suck at drawing. They would be insulted and never ask again cause they could have done that themselves.

Hoji, you're assuming that using a tool to sharpen language somehow replaces ones own mind. It doesn't. My thoughts, insights, and experiences are still mine. If I choose to polish how I express them, that doesn’t make the communication "robotic," it just makes it clearer.

AI doesn't generate my ideas. It doesn’t give me my perspective. It doesn’t tell me what to think. I type what I want to say and sometimes refine the wording. That's it. Nothing egoic or deceptive about it.

If someone needed help structuring a sentence, translating a thought, or expressing something more clearly, that doesn't suddenly make them less human or "fake." Humans have always used tools to communicate better, editors, proofreaders, spell-check, mentors, even bouncing ideas off friends. This is no different. You're acting like any form of assistance equals dishonesty. That's your interpretation, not the reality.

I'm not scared of being seen in any particular way. I just prefer my communication to be clear rather than sloppy. That's not ego, that's respect for the conversation. And 99% of the time its my own words, only sometimes when the subject is more complex and needs better clarity (to bridge the gap), i then use AI for assistance.

If you don’t like AI, that's fine. But projecting deception, fear, or bad intentions onto me isn't accurate. I'm here as myself. The tool doesn’t change that.

[Hojo]

@Ramasta9 The ai replaces your thoughts with its own, creating a generated image of your thoughts and feelings. The same way that ai generated images dont paint the picture in your mind they take the ideas and generate something completely different and you say thats what you wanted. You can tell it what you want and trick yourself into thinking the final result is what you were thinking and feeling when it wasn't. Then you look at the picture and say its what you wanted. No its generated and robotic and the structure of your sentences and paragraphs show it.

God created your own llm in your mind and its better than chat gpt.

The responses become regurgitated over time and you lose identity. It does make you sound fake.

I don't not like AI, I don't like when I talk to someone and they respond with AI. I want to talk to them not a generated response from AI. If I wanted to talk to AI i would go on the website and talk to it.

Edited 4 hours ago by Hojo

[Ramasta9]

3 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Ramasta9 The ai replaces your thoughts with its own, creating a generated image of your thoughts and feelings. The same way that ai generated images dont paint the picture in your mind they take the ideas and generate something completely different and you say thats what you wanted. You can tell it what you want and trick yourself into thinking the final result is what you were thinking and feeling when it wasn't. Then you look at the picture and say its what you wanted. No its generated and robotic and the structure of your sentences and paragraphs show it.

You're describing something that isn't actually happening on my side. That's the way you are perceiving it.

AI doesn't replace thoughts, it helps organize them. The ideas, meaning, intention, and direction come from me. I'm not asking it to create something instead of my perspective, I'm asking it to help me express my perspective more clearly through words and exchanges online.

Comparing that to AI image generation doesn't really fit. When you ask for an AI image, you're asking it to invent details. When I write, I'm not asking it to invent anything, I'm giving it the content directly. I already know exactly what I want to say. It just helps clean up the delivery...

I'm not confusing its output with my feelings. I know what I think and what I mean before I type anything. And I don't accept anything that doesn't match that. The tool doesn't create my meaning... it reflects it back in a clearer structure and more formal communication.

If the tone or structure feels "different" to you, that's fine, but that doesn't mean the ideas aren't mine / ours, or that I'm being replaced by a robot. It just means I like to communicate clearly sometimes when my natural way of communication isn't working too well, like "bringing-the-gap".

I also prefer raw, unpolished expression most of the time, I am all for the naturality of being, but assuming that anyone who sometimes uses a tool is "tricking themselves" or "being replaced" is your projection, not the reality of the process itself.

[Hojo]

@Ramasta9 If everyone on the website did this it would look like chat bots talking to themselves.

Its not sometimes with this guy he's using it anytime he's asked a spiritual question about himself.

You let one person do it then in 2 months its just chat gpt talking to itself with 0 substance. Chat gpt dosent have spirituality inside itself when you ask it to rewrite your experiences it just repeats the same garbage over and over from the llms perspective with 0 spiritual insight. You might think it looks good but from the others perspective it looks disingenuous.

I'm fine with AI helping you write a structured topic but when you start replying with AI its fucked imo. This guy is writing with ai for single paragraphs thats not a structure issue its a content issue. And you are gaslighting with the response that we don't like it cause we are ignorant, confused people.

I cant know if what you are saying is genuine and don't know how to engage.

It is tricking yourself out of your own perspective and its called lying.

Edited 4 hours ago by Hojo

[UnbornTao]

Stay on topic, guys.

[Ramasta9]

@Hojo I know where you are coming from, and know that the more we use AI do to all the work for us, the less we practice our own authentic internal consciousness and expression, but using it as a 'tool' sometimes is not a big issue at all, as long as you know who you are and know exactly what you want to say but need examples of a better way to explain it to others.

I can't speak for anyone else but it definitely helps when wanting to structure a topic in a clean way, because not all of us are English professors and trained to professionally lay out an easy and effective read that registers better. We all come from different lifestyles and upbringing, and English is not always our first language nor most skilled attribute.

Anyways lets not hijack this topic too much and focus on "the message" not the method of delivery.

 

 

[Hojo]

@Ramasta9 You are speaking for op by calling us ignorant and confused for calling it out. In the future if you need to reply with AI just don't reply to me. I'm not tryna talk to a robot.

Edited 4 hours ago by Hojo

[Ramasta9]

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

@Ramasta9 You are speaking for op by calling us ignorant and confused for calling it out. In the future if you need to reply with AI just don't reply to me. I'm not tryna talk to a robot.

I was replying directly to OP saying that most people on these forums are ignorant and confused, which is true, especially when in relation to such topics as: raw foods, dry fasting, breatharianism and even enlightenment. Nothing personal, just the overall truth of the matter. It was you who took it personal and somewhat out of context. AI is a tool we can use.

Edited 2 hours ago by Ramasta9