on death

[BuffaloBill]

so....when we die maybe we become reborn instantly, there's no wait time. the moment you die is the moment you become a baby. 

or, maybe when we die we get to experience a paradise world where we come in contact with our omnipotence and omniscience and everything as god. 

i wonder which it'll be. i hope for the latter, i'd like to be in god-mode or creative-mode so i can do whatever i want until i get bored and choose to dream a new dream of sorts.

i guess it's impossible to know, also yes i've heard about NDEs, that sounds intriguing, who knows what will happen. aaaah....

no i do not long for death but i don't fear it either. i'll probably pray to jesus for safety's sake, maybe this solipsism stuff was a satanic lie, yes i know, now i sound like an unenlightened moron, and perhaps i am, however, i find god realization to be an implausible thing for me, seeing as im unwilling to do psychedelics, yes ive tried LSD, but you'd need 1000 ug for a god realization and im unwilling to make myself that schizophrenic im sorry guys. 'the work' is a bit of a tall mountain to climb for me as of now. aahhh....

 

 

[BuffaloBill]

praying to jesus so i dont accidently end up in hell, i mean i'd do it that's just the uh.....pascals wager thingy, you wanna be safe 

[Someone here]

11 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

praying to jesus so i dont accidently end up in hell, i mean i'd do it that's just the uh.....pascals wager thingy, you wanna be safe 

You don't get it .maybe Zeus is the true god .

[BuffaloBill]

i'm in the process of giving authority to 'the others' in my dream i suppose. 

rookie mistake

 

[Someone here]

 

[Ramasta9]

The reason why most people, if not all, will never know exactly what happens or can share what happens when they die, is because its meant to be a surprise, your not meant to know the endgame, otherwise it would be boring and almost cheating... it could be unique and different for everyone, or ultimately the same. The best way is to simply drop it and allow it to come naturally. Enjoy the ride because you never know when you will wake up.

Here is a fun analogy: Imagine you are playing a game, lets say super mario world, and you go through all sorts of fun and meet and play all sorts of characters in the game, but you, your main character, being mario, finally completes the game and then has to finally log out. When the player finally turns off the console and comes back to "reality" all those characters, all those plays and rides and roller-coasters, love stories and so on... were all within a greater divine imagination or players mind, a greater oneness pretending to be an infinitude of all different little things and creatures.

So like we die in a dream we wake up to this reality, maybe when we complete the game of "this life" we then wake up into an even greater or more profound reality or life, and maybe it goes on and on and on, or maybe not, who knows, who cares, enjoy it while it lasts.

Play well, and have the most fun that you can, that's the true winners mindset

 

[BuffaloBill]

myes. religions are all a buncha crap. 

lets talk about leo guras notion of death however, if solipsist dies. where does he end up? In formlessness? and is that a happy place or a sad place. it feels as if though life in this dream is very mediocre compared to what it could've been. Maybe life or this dream im dreaming is sort of a waiting place, sort of like, yeah i wanna experience suffering for a while so i can experience the great contrast when i finally arrive in formlessness and experience unimaginable ecstasy. who knows. 

[Someone here]

People keep talking maybe this maybe that regarding death.  I always answer the same thing: go fucking die and find out .anything else is not "it" by definition. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Someone here

[Mellowmarsh]

The void, rather than being an empty nothingness or a definitive conclusion, is the eternal, primal substrate from which all reality emerges and to which it eventually returns.

The void is not the end. It’s what has always been.

 

Pick your death sting. Is it better to be aware you are dead, or, unaware you are dead?

 

 

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, Someone here said:

maybe Zeus is the true god

Zeus is just God.

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:

lets talk about leo guras notion of death however, if solipsist dies. where does he end up?

Death IS Infinity!

That's where you end up. You don't die, you become infinitely conscious.

Edited 7 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Wilhelm44]

46 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Death IS Infinity!

That's where you end up. You don't die, you become infinitely conscious.

Are you saying it doesn't matter what kind of life you lived, whether ur Donald Trump or Sadguru, when they die, both become infinitely conscious ?

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Are you saying it doesn't matter what kind of life you lived, whether ur Donald Trump or Sadguru, when they die, both become infinitely conscious ?

Of course!

Nothing at all matters! How could it?

Edited 6 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Dazgwny]

5 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:

yes ive tried LSD, but you'd need 1000 ug for a god realization

Incorrect. You do not need this much. You may need a bit of help from it, but what you need is the right form of contemplation, open mindedness and deconstruction of mind. You can get god realisation on nowhere near these amounts. I think around 400ug I had my first serious god realisation. I’ve had them on less since. You’ve created some myth there for yourself I’m afraid

[Wilhelm44]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Of course!

Nothing at all matters! How could it?

But isn't there some kind of progression ? Don't you need to evolve over many lifetimes before fully merging with infinity again ? And isn't it true that people who do the suicide thing need to come back for another round ? (To be honest i felt some great relief when i read your words, fear of death seemed to dissolve, but i also feel hesitant, residues of religeous conditioning still running deep.)

Edited 5 hours ago by Wilhelm44

[Hojo]

@Wilhelm44Its like you go to a timeout. When your mother times you out in your room you naturally start crying and pouting and want to come out. God wont let you out until you calm down the same way your mother wont. There is no such thing as good or bad to progress too you are already the highest form. You are special and dont take anything anyone says seriously if you  hear something and it makes you feel bad you are 100 percent in the right to say no to that. Even if you perceive them to be 'higher' than you and more wise. Sadhguru says hes better than you but you should say im better than sadhguru. Its your job to say you are the greatest, thats your only job. 

The human body is you coming out thinking you are the greatest the world beating you down to nothing seeing God and then you must raise yourself up back to the greatest while still knowing you are nothing.

You cant die. You are already what you think death is.

Edited 5 hours ago by Hojo

[Thought Art]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Of course!

Nothing at all matters! How could it?

Life is a whole lotta nottaaaa

[Wilhelm44]

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

@Wilhelm44Its like you go to a timeout. When your mother times you out in your room you naturally start crying and pouting and want to come out. God wont let you out until you calm down the same way your mother wont. There is no such thing as good or bad to progress too you are already the highest form. You are special and dont take anything anyone says seriously if you  hear something and it makes you feel bad you are 100 percent in the right to say no to that. Even if you perceive them to be 'higher' than you and more wise. Sadhguru says hes better than you but you should say im better than sadhguru. Its your job to say you are the greatest, thats your only job. 

The human body is you coming out thinking you are the greatest the world beating you down to nothing seeing God and then you must raise yourself up back to the greatest while still knowing you are nothing.

You cant die. You are already what you think death is.

Thank you