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Democrats cave on ACA shutdown.

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38 minutes ago, BlueOak said:

layoff the asumptions. I've drifted a political again and haven't even seen his taken on it.

If you can't see American constantly drifting right because dems cave on everything and the republicans are considerably more strong willed, then honestly you are not honestly looking at the dynamic.

Democrats are not in power.

Thats not how politics work, at all. You're looking at it like a religion or something. You think republicans are going to accept everything democrats want because they can shutdown.... republicans were voted in power, democrats should shutdown if they don't get what they want?

People vote their pocketbooks. Trump 2016 won by running on lies, that caught up to him in the next election, where he lost to a dementia patient. Lying can work one cycle. Trump won 24 because of the inflation derived from Trump 16'. Trump 24' is going down even harder and you're ALREADY seeing a blue apocalypse for republicans, democrats took seats held red for 20 years.

Biden and Harris' tax plans were to raise taxes on corporations and the wealthy, Harris wanted to tax unrealized gains even, thats "moving right" to you. Newsom has the highest tax rate in the country on the wealthy in California, and just started a state ran pharmaceutical company. Thats "moving right" to you.

You don't want to tank the economy even more with excessive shutdowns, trump is already doing bad enough job. When democrats get back in it takes time to rebound the economy, you don't want a massive downtrend like biden started with. People will vote opposite party when economy is faltering regardless of fault.

Retaining aca with a republican majority is a near impossible task. Obviously we need to do shutdowns, but calculated, there are lives hurt by this shutdown. We should shutdown longer next time and keep shutting down, republicans are being ridiculous. 

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At 41 days, this was the longest government shutdown in American history. I will wager that once further left leaning Democrats like AOC become more commonplace in the party, there will be an even longer shutdown as neither party will cave in. I won't at all be shocked if there's a shutdown that lasts until the next congressional election.

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8 minutes ago, Infinity16 said:

At 41 days, this was the longest government shutdown in American history. I will wager that once further left leaning Democrats like AOC become more commonplace in the party, there will be an even longer shutdown as neither party will cave in. I won't at all be shocked if there's a shutdown that lasts until the next congressional election.

And republicans would shutdown democrat administrations. You guys gotta quit thinking like this is checkers, the Hasan/AOC stupidity is a virus.

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