Curing all diseases & Biological Immortality - Backed by Zuckerberg

[LordFall]

 

I just found out that Mark Zuckerberg and his wife's main goals have been focused on science research and specifically have the stated goal of curing all diseases by 2100. 

I find this incredibly inspiring as I was already a believer in humanity reaching biological immortality this century through the predictions of people like Ray Kurzweil but seeing now one of our most powerful technologist dedicate one of his lifes work to this makes this seem to me like a done deal. 

Humanity 2.0 now immortal and coming to a galaxy and star system near you. 

[LordFall]

Anti aging 1v20 featuring Bryan Johnson, people don't really have many insightful questions but it's cool to see how the average person responds to this topic

 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

4 hours ago, LordFall said:

Anti aging 1v20 featuring Bryan Johnson, people don't really have many insightful questions but it's cool to see how the average person responds to this topic

 

He's a pretty sharp and inteligent debater, didn't know he was into philosophy. Definitely one of those better rich people.

How shocking that the most genderless looking individual in the group starts to spew the commie pitty party speech from the 11th minute, wouldn't have guessed that in a milion years LOL probably not the best person to berate for that for real, especially not during that occassion

Edited Sunday at 10:18 PM by NewKidOnTheBlock

[Ramasta9]

I see a lot of distortion in these individuals, unless they are advanced drones pretending to be human  

Trying to master nature is never going to happen, its already masterful as it is, lack of understanding nature leads to distorted individuals.

Any disease is already curable if you understand how nature works, never will scientific approach out-perfect this.

Edited yesterday at 02:21 AM by Ramasta9

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Ramasta9 

I find it so odd. It is like they want to preserve their ego above all else. The worst part of themselves. The part that refuses to accept limitation. The attached, material side is clung to at all costs. Staunch refusal to engage in the flow of life and its process.

Inoculation against nature.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

4 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

Any disease is already curable if you understand how nature works, never will scientific approach out-perfect this.

No it isn't, hence why death exists. Which is the way of the nature LOL what do you mean science will never outperfect this. Our post Industrial Revolution lifespan is like twice the size the pre Industrial Revolution lifespan. And that's because of science. I am pro nature but also think we should max out in science and max out our longevity before we call it a day, people like Bryan Johnson are good guinea pigs for us to find out whether it is really possible to live 150-200 years or longer

[Ramasta9]

19 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

No it isn't, hence why death exists. Which is the way of the nature LOL what do you mean science will never outperfect this. Our post Industrial Revolution lifespan is like twice the size the pre Industrial Revolution lifespan. And that's because of science. I am pro nature but also think we should max out in science and max out our longevity before we call it a day, people like Bryan Johnson are good guinea pigs for us to find out whether it is really possible to live 150-200 years or longer

Humans can live far longer than that, and some are out there, but you won't find them where you stand because of your programming. And have been long before modern science has been around, this history has been long forgotten.

No offense, but the guy looks far from healthy, very pale and lifeless, lacking greatly in spirit and soulful expression, little color in his aura, he won't live long, I can already see it, and its becomes he relies on artificiality, supplements ect.. that only makes you less human and more robot. Lacks real understanding of nature.

And even if that were the case, what kinda life is that when you can live 200 years but are not truly yourself but a by-product of technology and chemicals? You do realize these things change you inside out, the more you rely on what is synthetically created, the less you there is left, so who's really living? existing is not living, surviving is not living, the point is to thrive.

I'd rather live 50 years of a rich quality natural life than 500 of an artificial one. Death is not a disease, its a completion of energy.

Edited 19 hours ago by Ramasta9

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

43 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

Humans can live far longer than that, and some are out there, but you won't find them where you stand because of your programming. And have been long before modern science has been around, this history has been long forgotten.

No they don't. There is no evidence for that at all actually, and even if you link me some examples, upon further investigation I bet I'd most likely find out that these the ages were either completely made up and fabricated, or that there is no way of knowing ages of these people, or that they existed so far in the past that there is no way of discovering their actual age - or perhaps all of these combined.

48 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

No offense, but the guy looks far from healthy, very pale and lifeless, lacking greatly in spirit and soulful expression, little color in his aura, he won't live long, I can already see it, and its becomes he relies on artificiality, supplements ect.. that only makes you less human and more robot. Lacks real understanding of nature.

Bunch of emotional assesments, I can also make a bunch of accusations that certain people are unhealthy based on how they look like, sometimes I'd be right, other times I'd not be right. This is the kind of magical thinking you start to do when you put some sort of esoteric knowledge or whatever, before science, you start speaking about aura, energies and whatnot lmao I'm not a big proponent of supplements and I also prefer to get the macros and micros the most natural ways possible, sometimes the supplements can help tho. Is vaccination also unnatural? By your standards it probably would be, we should all just be bathing ourselves in mud, wiping our bottoms with leaves and live to 50 LMAO

55 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

And even if that were the case, what kinda life is that when you can live 200 years but are not truly yourself but a by-product of technology and chemicals? You do realize these things change you inside out, the more you rely on what is synthetically created, the less you there is left, so who's really living? existing is not living, surviving is not living, the point is to thrive.

I'd rather live 50 years of a rich quality natural life than 500 of an artificial one. Death is not a disease, its a completion of energy.

It doesn't have to be about chemicals, you just lack imagination. What if there exist some incredibly advanced technologies waiting to be discovered, which wouldn't have any adverse effects towards our biological functioning, if you wookies had it your way we would never discover these technologies ever, we'd just keep rolling in the mud and live up to 50

[Ramasta9]

@NewKidOnTheBlock Its mere programming, nature does not work that way my friend, there is always a trade-off because you are God born, so if you even slightly alter your energy field, you automatically distort the innate intelligence and full potential, rather a mutation, which is ok, but... living naturally and ordinarily is superior in every possible way, and the taoist and zen masters speak for themselves. Effortless Living ~

 

[LordFall]

@Ramasta9 I don't think you've thought about this idea enough as your points seem to be very shallow and delusional. If you believe you can cure diseases already please share your findings with the greater population and you will be soon a multibillionaire. 

16 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

And even if that were the case, what kinda life is that when you can live 200 years but are not truly yourself but a by-product of technology and chemicals? You do realize these things change you inside out, the more you rely on what is synthetically created, the less you there is left, so who's really living? existing is not living, surviving is not living, the point is to thrive.

I'd rather live 50 years of a rich quality natural life than 500 of an artificial one. Death is not a disease, its a completion of energy.

Why would you not be yourself after living 200 years? 

Try to think outside of your limited paradigm and I'm quite confident that you'll also come to the conclusion that biological immortality is the obvious future of the human race. Biological limitations and your cells dying is not a beautiful spiritual progress my guy, it's just a lack of efficiency that's about to be remedied. 

 

@Natasha Tori Maru I would use your exact critique against the people arguing against Bryan Johnson. Limited humans with limited paradigms who are too stuck in their ego and emotions to make good point or think deeply about a topic as important as extending the lifespan of humans. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@LordFall You could, but at the end of the day one has to use their own discernment & look at the picture wholistically.

[integral]

If they make people immortal, they will make you pay to stay alive.

Living tax.

[integral]

Either way, the tech industry will do a far better job solving health problems then the corrupt healthcare cartel ever will. 

Edited 2 hours ago by integral

[Eskilon]

7 minutes ago, integral said:

If they make people immortal, they will make you pay to stay alive.

Living tax.

Lmao yeah. None of these guys would probably want to live forever earning a minimum wage job -- what they really want is a eternal life of power games and hedonism.

It makes no sense living forever in a dogshit system like capitalism. Only for those who are at the top of the pyramid maybe then it could make sense if you are neurotic enough and scared of death.

Edited 2 hours ago by Eskilon

[integral]

1 minute ago, Eskilon said:

Lmao yeah. None of these guys would probably want to live forever earning a minimum wage job -- what they really want is a eternal life of power games and hedonism.

I can understand feeling 20 and good everyday like the world is brand new the way it was when we were children. StateMaxxing.

Beyond that after 40 years of life its not really worth living.

I don't think they really understand any of this. 

[integral]

I don't have any need to live one second longer.

Edited 2 hours ago by integral

[LordFall]

14 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

Lmao yeah. None of these guys would probably want to live forever earning a minimum wage job -- what they really want is a eternal life of power games and hedonism.

It makes no sense living forever in a dogshit system like capitalism. Only for those who are at the top of the pyramid maybe then it could make sense if you are neurotic enough and scared of death.

Your complaints and anger are based on simple macroeconomics. Capitalism is a beautiful system that has brought us AI and this biotech that will soon make us immortal. It has filled its purpose now and will turn from late stage capitalism dystopia to collective ownership of global wealth through blockchain. It is inevitable. Scarcity has a logical end and that end comes through labor and specifically infinite labor that AI will soon unlock. 

[UnbornTao]

"The Tao that is Unborn is already immortal."

- Someone, probably.

[LoneWonderer]

17 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Your complaints and anger are based on simple macroeconomics. Capitalism is a beautiful system that has brought us AI and this biotech that will soon make us immortal. It has filled its purpose now and will turn from late stage capitalism dystopia to collective ownership of global wealth through blockchain. It is inevitable. Scarcity has a logical end and that end comes through labor and specifically infinite labor that AI will soon unlock. 

@LordFall How could corruption even begin to allow such a world of abundance to come about? The haves up to now have always found ways to keep the have nots in servitude somehow. That is what capitalism is based on. Everybody claims a time of abundance is coming but I don't see any way of this actually happening. Artificial scarcity will be invented and you'll be forced to keep playing the survival game even though abundance could be guaranteed for all. Even today if we really wanted to we could create abundance for all...but no, some people collect all the resources through the labour of others. That is capitalism core engine driver, Elon Musk's 1 trillion dollar pay package while all over the world over 1 billion people live below the poverty line.

CHANGE MY MIND ON THIS I beg of you. There is nothing more in the world I wish for than abundance for all.

Edited 2 hours ago by LoneWonderer

[integral]

@LoneWonderer  I agree that's basically what's happening. It's all artificial scarcity.

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Here's the core corruption in a nutshell:

The system was designed so debt can never be repaid - only serviced forever.

Four key innovations created this trap:

William Paterson (1694): Created permanent government debt where principal is never repaid, only interest paid forever from tax revenue

Nathan Rothschild (1815): Made debt so interconnected globally that default became impossible - it would collapse the entire financial network

JP Morgan (1913): Created the Federal Reserve to guarantee unlimited demand for government bonds, enabling infinite borrowing

Paul Volcker (1982): Ensured that when countries can't pay, debt is restructured (not forgiven), keeping interest flowing perpetually

The corruption: The entire global financial system now depends on debt growing forever. When governments borrow, they create money. If they paid off debt, the money supply would collapse. So they're trapped in permanent borrowing, paying about $1 trillion annually in interest to bondholders - mostly large financial institutions managing other people's money.

It's a wealth transfer machine: taxpayers → government → bondholders, running continuously by design. The $38 trillion US debt isn't a problem to fix - it's the feature that keeps the system running and interest flowing upward to financial institutions.

 

Edited 2 hours ago by integral