Anti-Natalism - A solution for ending materialistic human suffering

[bringa]

In the material realm, Anti-Natalism is the solution to end all human suffering. Some people tend to straw man it by saying that I'm talking about genocide or I should kill myself; the answer a straight BIG NO. 

It's about stopping procreation. Don't procreate. End of story. 

Edited 18 hours ago by bringa

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

This philosophy might be true on some level but it's just not practically feasable to think this way. As much as I may always be among the first ones to notice and point of all the ways in which life sucks, or just anything sucks. However, this is sort of like admitting defeat in life because non existence would be better than existence, and makes any kind of motivation for self improvement very limited or essentially impossible, it is similiar to being a socialist in this way, except on a much larger scale.

I don't think it is very probable that I will ever produce children, however I cannot seem to concede the idea of ever having one, or ever having a family, it is sort of like yielding to life and/or being anti-life, it is just not feasable to think this way for me.

[Hojo]

God celebrates life. You dont need to have kids but to become anti baby shows that no one celebrated your life so you are angry.

Edited 13 hours ago by Hojo

[Ishanga]

7 hours ago, bringa said:

In the material realm, Anti-Natalism is the solution to end all human suffering. Some people tend to straw man it by saying that I'm talking about genocide or I should kill myself; the answer a straight BIG NO. 

It's about stopping procreation. Don't procreate. End of story. 

Interesting concept, never heard of it before, but I sort of am in that space, I have a child already that is an adult, but I do not want to bring anymore children into this messed up world, for sure, unless the are on the spiritual path from day one, they will suffer allot.  The world has changed a ton since I was a kid in the 70's, and its getting worse by the year, so why bring another human to a hell hole that this place is going to be, makes no sense!

[aurum]

Having babies is essential in the geopolitical game of power. The larger your population, generally the more power you have.

[Emerald]

Good luck getting people who want to have children on board with that.

First off, antinatalism is a pretty extreme ideology that would have dire consequences for the human race if it were adopted on a broader scale. We're already trending towards lower birth rates, and that could lead to some really difficult living circumstances for the humans who are already alive.

It's something we should try to pump the brakes on slightly, if we can. We don't want to end up like South Korea will be in a generation or two.

But beyond that, people who want to have children just aren't going to adopt antinatalism.

The only people who agree with antinatalism are a percentage of people who didn't want to have kids anyway. And they adopted antinatalism as an ideological justification for that decision long after they knew they didn't want children.

It would be a very rare person indeed who really wants to have a child but decides not to because they heard the antinatalist philosophy.

The rhetoric rings quite hollow unless you're looking for ways to feel better about your decision not to have kids by framing it as morally superior to others' decision to have them.

I can see it really appeal to people who don't want to have children (especially women who don't want to have children) because people are always harassing them about having kids... and saying bullshit like, "people who choose not to have kids are selfish" and other things like that.

So, I see antinatalism as something that the childfree people who get harassed by breeders adopt as a way to push back and say, "Actually, you're selfish for having kids because life is suffering!"

[Leo Gura]

17 hours ago, bringa said:

It's about stopping procreation. Don't procreate. End of story. 

This makes no sense.

The economy requires procreation to be robust.

There is no problem with over-population. The Earth can easily sustain 10B+ people. And those extra people will invent new tech.

Edited 31 minutes ago by Leo Gura