What would be the ultimate theoretical solution to self deception

[Human Mint]

13 hours ago, Daniel Balan said:

The best cure for self deception is to acknowledge that you are already self deceived this very moment. Is to constantly acknowledge that you could be self deceived in this very moment. To acknowledge that everything you pretend to know, all of your beliefs, all your opinions are the result of self deception. Acknowledge that you are constantly self deceived. 

The moment you think you are not self deceived, it is the moment you are the most self deceived.

How do you know you're always self-deceived? Like, at what point you're not then...? Some people are more self deceived than others, that's for sure. But what does that even mean, lol

[Daniel Balan]

19 minutes ago, Human Mint said:

How do you know you're always self-deceived? Like, at what point you're not then...? Some people are more self deceived than others, that's for sure. But what does that even mean, lol

For example when you strongly believe that something is totally true, when you are the most certain of your beliefs, that is when you could actually be self deceived. You should always operate under the assumption that you could be self deceived, regardless of what life endeavour you might deal at hand.

[Daniel Balan]

Just now, Daniel Balan said:

For example when you strongly believe that something is totally true, when you are the most certain of your beliefs, that is when you could actually be self deceived. You should always operate under the assumption that you could be self deceived, regardless of what life endeavour you might deal at hand.

The devil outsmarts you precisely in the moment you think that you have outsmarted him. 

[Human Mint]

Just now, Daniel Balan said:

For example when you strongly believe that something is totally true, when you are the most certain of your beliefs, that is when you could actually be self deceived. You should always operate under the assumption that you could be self deceived, regardless of what life endeavour you might deal at hand

Right, but there are levels of self deception and there are moments when you're less self deceived. Like if you say something, but it's wrong, and you cannot see it's wrong and you keep defending it, then that's self deception, right? But there must be times when you're actually correct and not deceiveng yourself, otherwise deception wouldn't even exist to begin with.

[Daniel Balan]

4 minutes ago, Human Mint said:

Right, but there are levels of self deception and there are moments when you're less self deceived. Like if you say something, but it's wrong, and you cannot see it's wrong and you keep defending it, then that's self deception, right? But there must be times when you're actually correct and not deceiveng yourself, otherwise deception wouldn't even exist to begin with.

Honestly I'm not that educated on self deception. What you are asking me is something that I personally have no idea. That is something I actually struggle a lot, I am not being able to distinguish wheter I am truthful or I am self deceived. Also I am not able to tell whether I'm fully self deceived or just moderately or just a little bit. 

Your question is something I am contemplating on a hourly basis almost, but thus far, I am unable to decipher whether I am correct or the degrees to which I am self deceived, but I am good at recognizing in myself self deception, but I'm not yet capable to see when I am not self deceived

[Human Mint]

@Daniel Balan No problem

[Salvijus]

Energy never lies. Aim for permenant peace. Places where you're not at peace are places where you're are under the spell of deception. 

Edited October 25 by Salvijus

[VioleGrace]

Thanks guys i will look into it 

[gettoefl]

A course in miracles might work, all free online. 

 

[Yimpa]

Holding onto others’ beliefs as truth is self-deception 

[Breakingthewall]

The absence of delusion is being open to what you are. It's not something definable; it's an absolute reality. It's not a matter of not thinking, but of putting thoughts in their proper place.

Thoughts are mental structures with meaning. Thought itself is reality; meaning is an interpretation. You can deactivate meaning and remain in substance, and then return to meaning at will.

Then you know that any meaning is an approximation. You can try to approximate it as closely as possible, but you know it's an exercise, not reality. Reality is substance. Thoughts as emerging structures are substance; as meaning, they are something that points in a direction.

These are two different ontological levels. You can open yourself to the level of absolute truth right now, expanding your mind without limit. Then delusion is impossible because you are not at the level of delusion.