Is pickup worth moving to a major US city to get world class charisma?

[Magnanimous]

Living in Australia.

If I wanted to increase my charisma skills as much as possible from pickup, should I make the move to a major US city (like Vegas, LA, etc) where the best nightclubs and girls are in the world to increase my charisma?

[Leo Gura]

You could do a lot of game in a major Aussie city.

[Raze]

Australian accent is an advantage in the US so you may learn less but succeed more,

[Magnanimous]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You could do a lot of game in a major Aussie city.

@Leo Gura That's so true mate.

I was just wondering if - for the sake of maximizing charismatic growth - is it worth moving to Vegas or a major US city for gaming hot girls because thats where the hottest and the most go if I'm correct.

Because my Life Purpose will probably be related to charisma.

Edited yesterday at 06:54 AM by Magnanimous

[Zen LaCroix]

You can  learn game in Australia too especially Melbourne from what I've heard

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Sydney / Melbourne 100% 

Bit harder in the smaller cities - forget Perth/Adelaide

[Leo Gura]

 

2 hours ago, Magnanimous said:

@Leo Gura That's so true mate.

I was just wondering if - for the sake of maximizing charismatic growth - is it worth moving to Vegas or a major US city for gaming hot girls because thats where the hottest and the most go if I'm correct.

Because my Life Purpose will probably be related to charisma.

Seems rather extreme. It doesn't make sense unless you are insanely passionate about pickup.

Hot girls can be found in most big cities.

Vegas is quite expensive for an outsider. Clubs here cost $120/night, not even counting alcohol.

If you got a big budget and a bunch of time on your hands, you could do it. But I wouldn't recommend this to just a regular guy trying to learn dating.

If you want hardcore pickup for a few months, yeah, Vegas is king for that. But make sure you come here between April to September.

Do not come to Vegas Nov-March. It is slow. Vegas is very seasonal. The crazy game is May-August. You can plan a May-August immersion.

Edited yesterday at 07:50 AM by Leo Gura

[Jehovah increases]

26 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

 

Seems rather extreme. It doesn't make sense unless you are insanely passionate about pickup.

Hot girls can be found in most big cities.

Vegas is quite expensive for an outsider. Clubs here cost $120/night, not even counting alcohol.

If you got a big budget and a bunch of time on your hands, you could do it. But I wouldn't recommend this to just a regular guy trying to learn dating.

If you want hardcore pickup for a few months, yeah, Vegas is king for that. But make sure you come here between April to September.

Do not come to Vegas Nov-March. It is slow. Vegas is very seasonal. The crazy game is May-August. You can plan a May-August immersion.

27 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Sydney / Melbourne 100% 

Bit harder in the smaller cities - forget Perth/Adelaide

Holy crap $120 bucks for a night club, what the flop. For that price, one would want to see titty twisters all night.

Edited yesterday at 08:10 AM by Jehovah increases

[Jehovah increases]

46 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Sydney / Melbourne 100% 

Bit harder in the smaller cities - forget Perth/Adelaide

I have picked up a few women in Perth, not a bad place to live, though. I was born in Perth. Most people have no idea where it is.

Edited yesterday at 08:29 AM by Jehovah increases

[Magnanimous]

20 minutes ago, Jehovah increases said:

I have picked up a few women in Perth, not a bad place to live, though. I was born in Perth. Most people have no idea where it is.

@Jehovah increases The most isolated major city in the world 😭😭🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[Jehovah increases]

Just now, Magnanimous said:

@Jehovah increases The most isolated major city in the world 😭😭🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

So true,  it is, but if there ever is a nuclear war, we will survive because not too many people know Perth exists.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Jehovah increases Do you live in Perth? 

Ice hell hole that incinerated me in summer - but I may have been in the sketchy areas!

I never went clubbing or checked out the nightlife I will admit - I have in Melb/Syd. I figured the OP wanted a larger city.

The shit double standard is I get in everywhere free

[Jehovah increases]

Still do for now, I understand completely larger cities, and that for meeting and greeting, I wish I got in everywhere for free I used to. But times have changed, so must I.

[nerdspeak]

USA is no better than anywhere else in the West. And tends to valorize an exaggerated alpha approach that seems try-hard in most other cultures. 

[LordFall]

Yes. You must live in a major global city if you're an ambitious person both in terms of dating and business/career.

I lived in Toronto for 4 years and it changed my life. When I came back to Calgary and when I have clients from small towns(I'm a dating photographer) I see them having such outdated and stupid ideas that it blows my mind. They're way inferior in their understanding of the world, competency and skill level in many areas. 

[Lyubov]

No, USA is a not a good place for women. The epicenter of the western male loneliness crisis. There is a shortage of beautiful women and they are not feminine and do not value men. You will be fighting for mid girls. 

Edited yesterday at 09:19 PM by Lyubov

[LordFall]

@Lyubov it’s because most men in the USA are getting economically crushed. Collective issues don’t have to be individual issues. Plenty of phenomenal women in the US and some great cities to practice dating in. 

[Leo Gura]

Vegas is not a good place for dating, it is the best place for hardcore practice. Every weekend is a free bootcamp in pure hardcore game. You won't get that kind of XP boost anywhere else.

In Vegas you can game round the clock, from dusk till dawn, 7 nights a week, spring through fall. But winter sucks here. Don't game here in the winter.

Edited 21 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Magnanimous]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Vegas is not a good place for dating, it is the best place for hardcore practice. Every weekend is a free bootcamp in pure hardcore game. You won't get that kind of XP boost anywhere else.

In Vegas you can game round the clock, from dusk till dawn, 7 nights a week, spring through fall. But winter sucks here. Don't game here in the winter.

@Leo Gura Thinking about the essence of my question, I've figured out other questions that could better figure out if I should move/make a trip to Vegas or not:

If I did the same amount of approaches in Vegas as in any other major city, would I get the same skill growth? If not, how much would the difference be? (If I didn't decide to go there, how much growth in skill would I sacrifice)

Edited 18 hours ago by Magnanimous

[Leo Gura]

38 minutes ago, Magnanimous said:

If I did the same amount of approaches in Vegas as in any other major city, would I get the same skill growth? If not, how much would the difference be? (If I didn't decide to go there, how much growth in skill would I sacrifice)

That's not a good question because the bottleneck for game is having enough girls available to approach.

The point of Vegas is that Vegas allows you to do endless approaches like you could not do in any other place. Vegas has an insane volume of stunning girls like nowhere else. Vegas is pure abudance. Most cities are pretty scarce with too few girls with approaching and too few opportunities.

Edited 17 hours ago by Leo Gura