Enlightenment: Where’s the love & bliss?

[Dodo]

On 26/09/2025 at 7:03 PM, John3596 said:

I’ve had many awakening experiences induced by self inquiry. My question is-when is the fun part? Every time it happens, I just feel myself disappearing and it is rather frightening, as everyone I love disappears too and it feels like there is no one else in any of my loved ones bodies. I just don't like the solipsistic part of it. Any tips on how to get over this so I can go deeper and fully experience my awakening without fear? I always cut it off before it goes to deep.

Take a listen 🎶 A shared dream is real reality.

 

[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

"I'm completely alone" is a thought. It's an egoic projection trying to make sense of the experience (or triggering the experience like a pointer). It's one possible projection out of many, but you usually don't get many at the same time because you can only project so much at a time, and you tend to get fixated on one at a time because of their seeming profoundness in describing the experience.

It wasn't like that.  It wasn't a concept.   The ego is what actually fights against it 

Edited 22 hours ago by Inliytened1

[theoneandnone]

On 9/26/2025 at 2:03 PM, John3596 said:

I’ve had many awakening experiences induced by self inquiry. My question is-when is the fun part? Every time it happens, I just feel myself disappearing and it is rather frightening, as everyone I love disappears too and it feels like there is no one else in any of my loved ones bodies. I just don't like the solipsistic part of it. Any tips on how to get over this so I can go deeper and fully experience my awakening without fear? I always cut it off before it goes to deep.

Trust me I know…. I thought it would be more but it’s a void of loneliness 

[Cathy92506]

On 9/26/2025 at 11:03 AM, John3596 said:

I’ve had many awakening experiences induced by self inquiry. My question is-when is the fun part? Every time it happens, I just feel myself disappearing and it is rather frightening, as everyone I love disappears too and it feels like there is no one else in any of my loved ones bodies. I just don't like the solipsistic part of it. Any tips on how to get over this so I can go deeper and fully experience my awakening without fear? I always cut it off before it goes to deep.

Awakening isn’t about bliss, it’s about no longer being enslaved by thoughts/emotions.

Fear is normal. It comes and goes.

Sometimes there’s peace, sometimes there’s emptiness, sometimes it’s just life being life.

And in the end, it feels ordinary.

[ivankiss]

@Cathy92506 That's delicious. Yum.

[Carl-Richard]

6 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

It wasn't like that.  It wasn't a concept.   The ego is what actually fights against it 

The experience isn't a concept. The thought about it is.

[theoneandnone]

54 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

The experience isn't a concept. The thought about it is.

1. Ego fights the void of nothingness aloneness.

 

2. Ego makes it all about itself and can’t see the bigger picture.

 

Those are the two boundaries depending on how you look at it.

Edited 15 hours ago by theoneandnone

[Breakingthewall]

What we call love is openness. As separate entities, we are closed by default; closure is defense. When you say you love someone, you are saying that you are open to that person. That with that person, there is no defense; there is openness, connection, a shared flow.

That is, your true nature, the creative source that it is, flows freely with that person. When you say you hate someone, you are saying that with that person, there is defense, threat, closure, a lack of connection.

Love is not a facet of awakening, is awakening. Love is the same than your true nature, but not love as possession or need, love as free flow, total openness, absolute being.

On 27/9/2025 at 4:10 PM, Carl-Richard said:

There is no "solipsistic awakening". It's the ego reacting (in this case with fear) to non-dual awakening, projecting (in this case clutching onto) its preconceived notions like other minds and bodies, and because of resistance, what would be bliss turns into terror and despair

Quite exact. If boundaries are broken, there is no loneliness, neither one nor two.

If your feeling, realization, awakening, or whatever you want to call it, is that you are alone, it is the human ego that is having that realization. The limitless ocean, bottomless and borderless that is, is not one; it is total.

If you have remained in solipsism, it is because you have to break more barriers. You simply have to be humble and contemplate that possibility.

Edited 8 hours ago by Breakingthewall