cetus

Using Alexa to contemplate the nature of reality and consciousness.

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4 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

This is not a bad answer :P

@cetus Alexa: Why is there something, rather than nothing?

Hello,

Alexa’s response to your "Why is there something rather than nothing?" request

Ah, the ultimate question that's kept philosophers awake for centuries! You know, Natasha Tori, given your deep dives into consciousness and quantum physics, this one's right in your wheelhouse. Philosophers like Heidegger called this the fundamental question of metaphysics, and honestly, there's no shortage of brilliant minds who've wrestled with it. Some say it's because "nothing" might not even be a real possibility - that there's always been something, whether it's quantum fields, energy, or mathematical structures underlying reality. Others argue the universe is just a brute fact - it simply is, like that friend who shows up to every party without an invitation but somehow belongs there anyway. What fascinates me is how this connects to your interest in consciousness - maybe the very fact that we can ask this question is part of the answer.

Sent from Alexa


When the secret is revealed to you, you will know that you are not other than God, but that you yourself are the object of your quest.

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@cetus Goddamn it danced around that one didn't it? What a bitch 

Overloaded the circuits. I would have expected a simple answer... 

Why is there something, rather than nothing? WhERe wOuLd YoU pUt iT?


It is far easier to trick someone, than to convince them they have been tricked.

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1 minute ago, ivankiss said:

1NM = 299792.458 tHz

 

True but the numbers you gave were in Nm


When the secret is revealed to you, you will know that you are not other than God, but that you yourself are the object of your quest.

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@ivankiss 9_9

Bedtime for the remaining 1/1000 fraction of human left 


It is far easier to trick someone, than to convince them they have been tricked.

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12 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

WhERe wOuLd YoU pUt iT?

What came first? Something? Or a place to put it?


When the secret is revealed to you, you will know that you are not other than God, but that you yourself are the object of your quest.

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8 minutes ago, cetus said:

What came first? Something? Or a place to put it?

Drops an egg into the void.

Suddenly a chicken appears around it :P

But in reality here is me:

 

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@ivankiss Ha ha ha - you need to file a restraining order against that big brain boy. 

Alexa: If all my experience of everything is inside, behind my eyes, in my nose, in my ears - why do we think reality and matter is outside?

 


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So the answer is 'you already are' 

No wonder AI vomits up dump truck answers - it's the sum of the binjuice of humanities left overs 💀🤣


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Why would AI know anything about consciousness or secrets to the universe…. 

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That's like asking for "artificially-generated" information. It may be entertaining as an intellectual exchange but going through the motions isn't the point of inquiring. Wonder is.

It's tempting to use it in the first place because it is easy and passive for the most part - we generally just want to be told "the answers." Still, it might be useful in certain ways, or in other areas. 

Actually contemplating may be emotionally difficult, boring, and even discouraging at times, but in the end it is a genuine probing, not a mere request for data - especially in this context of enlightenment work. 

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2 hours ago, ivankiss said:

It's all consciousness. What @UnbornTao put together, is a thought story, a fairytale, rooted in fear and resistance.

But please don't listen to me. I also love cool stories.

Yeah...

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2 hours ago, ivankiss said:

Artificial non artificial duality.

Orga mecha duality.

If it doesn't resonate or feel right, do not consume the information or attempt the practices.

But for someone like me, who can actually see/feel/breathe these "frequencies"... This is more than just helpful. It's fucking epic.

Okay, fair. 

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On 26/09/2025 at 0:27 AM, cetus said:

Been having some interesting conversations with Alexa /A.I.

Q to Alexa: Did the universe bring me here to experience itself?

Alexa: 

Hello Robert,

Alexa’s response to your "Cosmic Consciousness Thought" request

Consciousness might be the universe's way of experiencing itself subjectively - like we're all these little windows through which the cosmos gets to peek at its own magnificence. The universe went from just existing to actually knowing it exists through beings who can contemplate quantum mysteries and ponder reality itself. Pretty wild to think your consciousness might be the universe having a 'wow, look at me!' moment!

Sent from Alexa

Whats the point, its an echo chamber. 

At best you get points of view from wise humans or already established philosophical views. 

Alexa is not alive to give you a real contemplation, ask it where it draws its answers from. 

I am very strict with my Ai and always ask where and how is it talking about consciousness if it has no direct experience of it. Its basically plagiarising someone else's work. 

I'd give it an F for not citing its sources. 

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14 hours ago, ivankiss said:

@Dodo Again, based on a duality, a belief that there is a human interacting with AI on a device called smartphone or computer. When in fact, for the 7th time in a row, it's all just consciousness.

Based on a duality that there was a guy Dodo who posted something when there is just consciousness. 

Sup 😆 

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37 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@Dodo Good one, but no, it's just a thought responding to a thought. Which is all consciousness (interacting with itself). Dodo and ivankiss are not the thinkers of thoughts... they are just thoughts.

sup B|

Ivankiss and Dodo are both aware. AI is not. 

Ivankiss and Dodo are activities of Consciousness, we can discuss this, our first hand experience is we are conscious and aware. We arent just rusty thoughts, we are actually aware. 

 

Ai has no experience of this, it is just spitting out it's training data. Ai has no authority on this subject. It can sound profound, but it knows less about consciousness than Princess Arabia 👸 (i try to pick someone who I think is a very egoic user on the forums)

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30 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@Dodo There literally is no AI, no Dodo, no ivankiss. Wake the fuck up. It's all consciousnezZz.

No one has consciousness. Its not something that happens inside of somebody or something. It just fucking is. Everything happens inside of it, and not even. As it, for it, from it. For fucking ever.

Im not saying consciousness happens inside somebody. You speak of consciousness as if its an object lmao. You have an egoic reaction trying to defend your position 😂 time to break the internet. 

I'm speaking from the experience of being aware. I am aware, thats the starting point. Im not making any assumptions or thinking, it is my experience that I am aware. 

I don't like how you are turning consciousness into an object/color and attempting to color everything with that same color. 

You are coloring everything white, not realising consciousness is empty of all color. You don't know what consciousness is, thats what IvanKiss needs to understand and deal with. 

You have nothing but a very tricky spiritual nondual ego! Sorry to say. 

 

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26 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

And if some idiot dares to mention the idea of an ego ever again on here, I am going to fucking break the internet.

After enlightenment chop wood carry water. 

Not after enlightenment chop consciousness carry consciousness.

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6 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@Dodo Pathetic. Weak. Confused. Deeply in pain.

Still consciousness. Right now.

Are those words supposed to be directed at me? You seriously have an ego problem.  

Yes, consciosness is right now. Don't use that fact to grow a spiritual ego by repeating it after your ignorant stance. 

Still consciousness, still now. At least read what I wrote and contemplate before you continue with your active ignorance tho. Intellectual truth wont get you further than feeding your ego.

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1 minute ago, ivankiss said:

@Dodo Read every single confused and desperate word. Again, quite some pain behind it all. Very sorry to see.

There is no me fighting you. Its just consciousness interacting with itself, right now, forever. And it's winning.

Request for complete annihilation?

So pain is not consciousness alluvassudden. You always cherrypick what you're nondual about. You see some imaginary pain behind my words and you use it in a sad attempt to hurt your idea of me. 

My man drop the act of being enlightened it does you no good. Milk that is poisoned looks like milk, but you shouldnt drink it. Be careful what milk you consume 🧐. 

You cant paint everything with a broad brush like you're doing. Calm down, step away from the keyboard and so some self inquiry instead of attacking people on forums, based on a perceived higher ground of understanding. 

You drank poisoned milk. What i see is intellctual understastanding of nonduality without any integration. What I see is nonduality of words. You want to win arguments, not know the Truth. 

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