Do most of us have mild TDAH/Dysthymic disorder.

[Schizophonia]

It feels like most of us have undiagnosed attention deficit disorder and depressive mood (there is a comorbidity between the two); so instead of having a normal life we protect ourselves by locking ourselves in the forum or certain problems; and in the top of the pyramid there is Leo who is kind but also dysthymic; He is not sociable, revolves around neurotic ideas like "the truth" and has even developed chronic fatigue.

I want to feel frequencies where I am happier and without attention problems, and I have looked at the thing in all directions I do not see how approaching these frequencies would not lead to disengagement from this forum but also to "personal development" in general.

Because there's no longer any need for "personal development" when you no longer have mood problems; you naturally go somewhere.
It's like "Looksmaxxing" lol; taking care of yourself is normal for most people, but when you're neurotic, hygiene, dressing well, etc. become something special.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Hmm, I don't think I fit this. 

Perhaps in the past? Not currently though. Maybe a poll would be good to gather data 😊 

I begun using the forum more when general negative moods were gone.

I think you speak the truth about other users though, I could just be an outlier 

[Hojo]

Its from the computer. You kinda get hobbies on the computer like drawing or coding or making games then all of a sudden you are doing 15 things at once non stop. Jumping from one thing to the next. I find myself listening to 3 YouTube videos at the same time. Someone is talking to me irl I have 2 other voices going off at the same time I'm trying to communicate with them.

Edited Sunday at 02:45 PM by Hojo

[Human Mint]

5 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

taking care of yourself is normal for most people

I wish this was true. Most people are like childs that need to be told that sugar and alcohol is unhealthy.

Is funny because what you describe I see it normally in social groups. I don't believe it is a coincidence you experience that here. This place offers a different dynamic, kind of its own unique thing.

Nonetheless it may be a good idea to contemplate the pros and cons of the forum.

 

Edited Sunday at 06:26 PM by Human Mint

[Sugarcoat]

One of my impressions of people here is that many score high on the openness personality trait. Also conscientiousness. ADHD to me sounds like someone impulsive, more focused on the immediate moment than long term, and who would have trouble focusing for long. Like doing meditation or watching long Leo videos. They might be more pragmatic. Although I’ve heard adhd people can be deep thinkers , so it’s non impossible to draw correlation there. It also seems some people are more self centered, so they’re interested in developing a nice self image, which could be linked to the tendency of personal development. There’s also like a streak of autism about it, to go about life in this calculated way forming a conceptual framework, instead of being more “natural” like some people are, especially in regards to socializing can the pickup approach come off as little autistic, where you make mental models of socialization instead of just naturally socializing. From an outside perspective self development can be seen as little geeky and try hard, like you’re full of yourself. So it might be more likely practiced by people who are less focused on relationships than ideas.

Edited Sunday at 09:09 PM by Sugarcoat

[ryoko]

I think you're saying you want to function with baseline human efficiency which leads to unawareness as a consequence, because it hurts to use the brain. Question is, which one bores you more. 

What's a disorder? Anything which disrupts the order. Whatever you perceive as order. 

 

Edited Sunday at 10:42 PM by ryoko

[Schizophonia]

22 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Hmm, I don't think I fit this. 

Perhaps in the past? Not currently though. Maybe a poll would be good to gather data 😊 

I begun using the forum more when general negative moods were gone.

I think you speak the truth about other users though, I could just be an outlier 

Or because you are a woman, Leo said women are not made to handle the truth.

 

👺

 

More seriously, what is translated by good affects is individual yea, so maybe you are one of mirrors spectrum which is close to the opposite of "me", but it's unlikely; does the forum really make you more happy ?

I don't only talk about Actualize's users but also the mirrors (including the version of "you") who is into spirituality and personnal developpement in general, this kind of egregor.

I see a much greater inclination to these psychological problems.

Edited 14 hours ago by Schizophonia

[Schizophonia]

21 hours ago, Hojo said:

Its from the computer. You kinda get hobbies on the computer like drawing or coding or making games then all of a sudden you are doing 15 things at once non stop. Jumping from one thing to the next. I find myself listening to 3 YouTube videos at the same time. Someone is talking to me irl I have 2 other voices going off at the same time I'm trying to communicate with them.

If you can do that you probably don't have attention problem eheh.

18 hours ago, Human Mint said:

I wish this was true. Most people are like childs that need to be told that sugar and alcohol is unhealthy.

When I spoke of taking care of oneself, I tacitly meant in the idea of making oneself and others happy; make happy ! That is to say lowkey phallic position.

When you say that you are not in a phallic logic, you are in a neurotic/regressive logic.

Because otherwise you'll see that any father who likes whiskey is more masculine/mature than anyone here who jerks off to psychedelics/personal development/spirituality/nutrition, etc.
Because he's truly socially useful, he's phallic.

18 hours ago, Human Mint said:

Is funny because what you describe I see it normally in social groups. I don't believe it is a coincidence you experience that here. This place offers a different dynamic, kind of its own unique thing.

Nonetheless it may be a good idea to contemplate the pros and cons of the forum.

 

Yes

[Schizophonia]

16 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

One of my impressions of people here is that many score high on the openness personality trait.

It's not true; they are open to psychedelics because they were matrixed by it, and I would even say that it is once again driven by neurosis given the useless justifications like "it's spiritual" or "it's more effective than therapy" when this is not true in the vast majority of cases.

But otherwise there are many neurotic mirrors (obsessive as well as hysterical), who do not want to be sociable, who become aggressive or lie when it comes to politics, etc.

16 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Also conscientiousness. ADHD to me sounds like someone impulsive, more focused on the immediate moment than long term, and who would have trouble focusing for long. Like doing meditation or watching long Leo videos.

Watching a video and even meditate is easy if you are matrixed by the topics covered, the problems I talked about would rather be the difficulty in doing new activities and being in a good mood.

16 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

They might be more pragmatic. Although I’ve heard adhd people can be deep thinkers, so it’s non impossible to draw correlation there. It also seems some people are more self centered, so they’re interested in developing a nice self image, which could be linked to the tendency of personal development. There’s also like a streak of autism about it, to go about life in this calculated way forming a conceptual framework, instead of being more “natural” like some people are, especially in regards to socializing can the pickup approach come off as little autistic, where you make mental models of socialization instead of just naturally socializing. From an outside perspective self development can be seen as little geeky and try hard, like you’re full of yourself. So it might be more likely practiced by people who are less focused on relationships than ideas.

Yes

[Rishabh R]

@Schizophonia I disagree with you as this forum can be seen from a different perspective such as growth fostering forum. There is a reason that this forum is called Actualized.org self-improvement forum. Even though there are certain limited negative stuff in the forum but majority of advice exchanged here is good. As per @Leo Gura how could you know that he is not sociable and neurotic despite not knowing him as a person. You are making assumptions about him. That proves his point that nobody cares about truth but rather we care about our assumptions about truth. The point is to question those assumptions and before that we must ground ourselves in not-knowing.

[Schizophonia]

1 minute ago, Rishabh R said:

@Schizophonia I disagree with you as this forum can be seen from a different perspective such as growth fostering forum. There is a reason that this forum is called Actualized.org self-improvement forum. Even though there are certain limited negative stuff in the forum but majority of advice exchanged here is good. As per @Leo Gura how could you know that he is not sociable and neurotic despite not knowing him as a person. You are making assumptions about him. That proves his point that nobody cares about truth but rather we care about our assumptions about truth. The point is to question those assumptions and before that we must ground ourselves in not-knowing.

He said he was not sociable at all, those were his words, not an assumption.

 

[Princess Arabia]

I smell projection here. Entirely projected. There has to always be a why and a figuring out of. Cannot just be what is. All stories behind what is. 

[Schizophonia]

2 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

I smell projection here. Entirely projected. There has to always be a why and a figuring out of. Cannot just be what is. All stories behind what is. 

Yes ofc.

Like every point of view in the universe.

[Human Mint]

7 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

When I spoke of taking care of oneself, I tacitly meant in the idea of making oneself and others happy; make happy ! That is to say lowkey phallic position.

When you say that you are not in a phallic logic, you are in a neurotic/regressive logic.

Because otherwise you'll see that any father who likes whiskey is more masculine/mature than anyone here who jerks off to psychedelics/personal development/spirituality/nutrition, etc.
Because he's truly socially useful, he's phallic.

How can you be socially useful when you're wasted? I am not saying that people who have bad habits are bad. You can still see goodness in them. I would be drinking whiskey right now if it made me more mature

[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, Human Mint said:

How can you be socially useful when you're wasted? I am not saying that people who have bad habits are bad. You can still see goodness in them. I would be drinking whiskey right now if it made me more mature

You're doing yourself a favor; alcohol is euphoric and stress-relieving.
But it's actually better to limit your alcohol intake because otherwise, if you increase your intake, you'll vomit, experience various problems, and increase your risk of death; I don't consume any drugs these days.

But the goal is always well-being/survival ;neurosis occurs when you begin to stray from this goal and start to think and function as if you were low-key, subservient to a dictator.

Like you say "It's true that a person can have bad habits but can have goodness" lol; it's like you are not interested in whether the other person can make you gain something, if you can create something with it; it's as if there was a sadistic dictator up there somewhere and your priority was to please him.

When I say that, I have nothing against you; it's a judgment and a projection I make here and there about people who talk about personal development.

The more time passes, the less interested I become in these subjects and I prefer to see myself becoming a father, a politician, a member of a charitable organization, an athlete, etc.
And when someone talks to me about personal development, nutrition, spiritual work, maturity, truth, etc it seems narcicistic, gay or something; triggers negative reactions in general.

Edited 5 hours ago by Schizophonia