Minneapolis Catholic school shooting

[Husseinisdoingfine]

 

It happened again in America. This sort of thing keeps happening every year in America. It happened once in New Zealand and within a week the government implemented a ban on military-style semi-automatic rifles, assault rifles, and high-capacity magazines, following the Christchurch Mosque shooting. The government also launched a buyback program for these newly prohibited firearms, and a firearms registry. 

A deep dive on the incident and perpetrator. 

https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/social/post/372790/27-august-2-dead-up-to?sort=controversial

Dr. Grande's analysis:

 

[Schizophonia]

Guns should be more regulated.

 

[Hojo]

@SchizophoniaI think you should have to take a year long personal development course to own one.

Edited August 29 by Hojo

[Ishanga]

51 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Guns should be more regulated.

 

Yes, but guns don't shoot ppl, ppl shoot ppl, the problem is too many crazy ppl, too much crazy period in every aspect of Human life, we're doomed i think...

[Ajay0]

My condolences for the victims and their families.

Imho, if the domestic gun industry cannot be regulated due to its influential political lobbies, it should be taxed heavily to fund a mental health ecosystem and associated culture in the country that can attend to hitherto unaddressed mental health needs of  its citizenry. 

It appears that the government is more interested in the profits of the gun industry capitalists than the security concerns of the average american citizen. 

[enchanted]

 

[Schizophonia]

15 hours ago, Ishanga said:

Yes, but guns don't shoot ppl, ppl shoot ppl, the problem is too many crazy ppl, too much crazy period in every aspect of Human life, we're doomed i think...

No there are very few crazy people but one crazy person can kill plenty of other ones with a weapon.

It's much harder to kill someone with a knife and maybe you won't do it because it takes more guts; the US has a homicide rate that's close to a shitty third world country.

Almost 7 murder for 100 000 residents against less than 2 for France.

Edited August 30 by Schizophonia

[Ishanga]

2 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

No their is very few crazy people but one crazy person can kill plenty of other ones with a weapon.

It's much harder to kill someone with a knife and maybe you won't do it because it takes more guts; the US has a homicide rate that's close to a shitty third world country.

Almost 7 murder for 100 000 residents against less than 2 for France.

I agree with that, but in the end its ppl shooting ppl, so its not about the tool, if they didn't have access to a gun they would run ppl over with a car or use another tool.. Of course ease of access to the tool, like a gun, has a role but ultimately its the crazy ppl that are doing this, imo there is more and more of them at various levels of crazy, the way things are set up today more crazy will be the result of it for sure...

[Schizophonia]

6 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

I agree with that, but in the end its ppl shooting ppl, so its not about the tool, if they didn't have access to a gun they would run ppl over with a car or use another tool..

No that's not true that's why USA has a such high homicide rate for a developped country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

It's in 2023, french wiki page have 2021 datas and it was even higher.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_pays_par_taux_d'homicide_volontaire

6 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Of course ease of access to the tool, like a gun, has a role but ultimately its the crazy ppl that are doing this, imo there is more and more of them at various levels of crazy, the way things are set up today more crazy will be the result of it for sure...

Yes but it means nothing.

It's like saying we shouldn't have speed limit on the highway because the problem is bad drivers not the highway, or we should let manufacturers put in ultra-cancerous preservatives because the problem is those who eat them.

[MuadDib]

38 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

No there are very few crazy people but one crazy person can kill plenty of other ones with a weapon.

It's much harder to kill someone with a knife and maybe you won't do it because it takes more guts; the US has a homicide rate that's close to a shitty third world country.

Almost 7 murder for 100 000 residents against less than 2 for France.

Also, one crazy generous person can make many new ones with efficient (relatively hassle free) gene transfer tools. Inspirational ❤️‍🔥💥💫

 

[Basman]

52 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

I agree with that, but in the end its ppl shooting ppl, so its not about the tool, if they didn't have access to a gun they would run ppl over with a car or use another tool.. Of course ease of access to the tool, like a gun, has a role but ultimately its the crazy ppl that are doing this, imo there is more and more of them at various levels of crazy, the way things are set up today more crazy will be the result of it for sure...

It is definitely about the tool. use depends on availability. For the same reason we need people to get a license in order to drive there should be more stringent rules for gun ownership.

The only reason why it is such a debate is because gun culture is so ingrained in the US. NRA itself was a proponent on gun regulation in the 1930s to curb gang violence, which implies that access to guns does matter. 

[Princess Arabia]

19 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Guns should be more regulated.

 

While we're at it, why not start regulating knives. Mental health is the issue, not guns. Regulating a dead piece of machinery isn't going to solve anything. 

Edited August 30 by Princess Arabia

[Basman]

I don't really think it is constructive to debate whether or not guns kills people because it is semantics. I see it used largely as a deflection to avoid any kind of discussion when it comes to gun safety, which hints at perhaps a subtle admittance that the notion that guns don't need regulation is a false one, because if it is true why not defend it on the merits of its arguments? Why deflect discussion? It is like how Christians refuse to debate god most of the time as their belief isn't epistemically grounded and doesn't have an argument.

It is much more pertinent to focus on the merits of gun control. What works? The current situation is clearly not working. People are being killed.

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

It's much harder to kill someone with a knife and maybe you won't do it because it takes more guts;

No one died, but it doesn't matter. The impact is just as devastating. 

[Schizophonia]

3 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

While we're at it, why not start regulating knives.

Lol nonsense knives are necessary in everyday life; weapons have no utility whatsoever and are way more dangerous.

Just look at the statistics I gave; there are far fewer murders in all other countries with roughly similar HDIs that ban firearms.
80% of murders in the United States are committed by firearms.

[Ishanga]

6 minutes ago, Basman said:

It is definitely about the tool. use depends on availability. For the same reason we need people to get a license in order to drive there should be more stringent rules for gun ownership.

The only reason why it is such a debate is because gun culture is so ingrained in the US. NRA itself was a proponent on gun regulation in the 1930s to curb gang violence, which implies that access to guns does matter. 

No, the access to the tool has a smaller role than who is using the tool... Everyday I drive within the city, everyday within 5 min of starting my drive I see infractions upon infractions, from small ones to bigger ones, and everyday ppl are dying or suffering due to all of these infractions taking place, if no one was driving there would be no infractions, so its the driver that is the main force behind accidents, not the vehicle, the vehicle/gun has no will of its own, the driver/shooter does...

We only have so many law, so many more laws being created because of the more crazy that is going on.

Religion is cheap and free psychiatry, ppl believe in moral codes or commandments, it keeps them in place via guilt, or at least it did in days gone by, not as much these days, today ppl feel like what happened to others won't happen to them, but it does on a daily basis...All do to Unconsciousness of what Is, that is the main problem, and high level of Consciousness is only available to Humans!

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2025/08/30/1-man-dead-3-injured-in-alleged-street-racing-crash-on-hwy-401/

[Schizophonia]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

No one died, but it doesn't matter. The impact is just as devastating. 

As devastating as death ?

[Princess Arabia]

Well, why don't we start regulating cars. Lots have been ran over by cars and lots of mass killings and injuries by vehicles. 

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Schizophonia said:

As devastating as death ?

That's your opinion. Death is final. These injuries live on and leave scars physically and emotionally, imo, its worse than death.

[carterfelder]

Please nobody mention that she was transgender. It has absolutely nothing to do with her actions.

Have some compassion for the most vulnerable members of our community. And no, I'm not talking about the innocent children.

Edited August 30 by carterfelder