Social circle game. What are your thoughts?

[Emerald]

I think everyone should have a social circle.

And having romantic options that can develop organically is just one of the many perks of having one. So, I wouldn't even create a social circle explicitly thinking about game. Just think about it as looking for people (men and women) to have a spend time with and good time with.

Honestly, before someone even considers doing pick-up, I recommend building a social circle of friends and acquaintances to connect with.

Then, once you have those more basic needs met, you can go do some pick-up if you want.

But doing pick-up without a social circle is a bit like going to a grocery store when you're starving. You're going to be too desperate for your needs for human connection and social support to be detached form outcomes.

[fabger]

"But doing pick-up without a social circle is a bit like going to a grocery store when you're starving. You're going to be too desperate for your needs for human connection and social support to be detached form outcomes."

@Emerald

if I'm starving the first thing I do is buy food at the grocery store what are you talking about 😀?

[Emerald]

10 hours ago, fabger said:

"But doing pick-up without a social circle is a bit like going to a grocery store when you're starving. You're going to be too desperate for your needs for human connection and social support to be detached form outcomes."

@Emerald

if I'm starving the first thing I do is buy food at the grocery store what are you talking about 😀?

It didn't mean literally starving. I meant very very hungry and haven't eaten in half a day.

There is a saying, "Never go grocery shopping when you're hungry."

And that is because you will make poor choices at the grocery store when you're making active food selections for the week from a state of ravenous hunger.

Ideally, you eat something before you go grocery shopping, so as not to make impulsive choices out of desperation for food.

[meta_male]

On 18.8.2025 at 11:54 AM, theleelajoker said:

You get less frustrated if you select less by looks, but more by signals,  initial openness for interaction. Which means less rejection, which means more success, which means better mood and vibe, which means higher % for success.  Which means learning how to better filter your approach, which means...

Well said. No need to collect rejections just for the sake of building thicker skin. You can just be smart instead.

[Jannes]

On 19.8.2025 at 5:20 AM, Emerald said:

I think everyone should have a social circle.

And having romantic options that can develop organically is just one of the many perks of having one. So, I wouldn't even create a social circle explicitly thinking about game. Just think about it as looking for people (men and women) to have a spend time with and good time with.

Honestly, before someone even considers doing pick-up, I recommend building a social circle of friends and acquaintances to connect with.

Then, once you have those more basic needs met, you can go do some pick-up if you want.

But doing pick-up without a social circle is a bit like going to a grocery store when you're starving. You're going to be too desperate for your needs for human connection and social support to be detached form outcomes.

Thats exactly my experience. When you dont have a social circle as a base then its hard to normally talk to strangers because you dont have that sense of basic belonging. You need some regular socializing which isnt on pick up level just to not be akward.  

But also the herd can make you complacent. I dont think about pick up when I am in a group. 

[Consept]

Yeah I agree with @Emerald you should build a social circle anyway because it allows you to have a more rounded life and spend time and do things you enjoy with people that you like. Not only does this give you a sense of belonging but it makes you more attractive to any potential partner because it shows that people want to be around you and that you actually want to do interesting things. 

The more you socialise the more likely it is that you'd meet people, friends of friends etc also whoever you meet in that context youre already 10 steps ahead of anyone who had cold approached because youre essentially vouched for by people around you. 

So to give practical advice just start doing things you actually enjoy doing or activities that you always wanted to but never tried. Maybe attend a dance class, ideally salsa lol, learn a language take up a sport etc. Once youre in these environments be open to meeting and connecting with people, you won't get on with everyone but you only need a couple to start building a circle. The main thing is it need to be almost effortless, so go toward the people that like you, go toward the activities you want to do. 

Imo this always beats cold approach because you improve in so many ways and your life actually gets better and closer to what you want. Best case in cold approach is you get a girlfriend or a girl to sleep with you but you dont get to work on anything else or create an actual enjoyable life. 

[fabger]

@meta_male

Buuut the skills and awareness you gain along the journey is valuable. You can't do it through social circle

[meta_male]

42 minutes ago, fabger said:

Buuut the skills and awareness you gain along the journey is valuable. You can't do it through social circle

Along what journey...cold approach? I do that sometimes. But more often it's a girl giving me a signal and me not acting on it cause I literally don't feel the urge. Feels more like some mental block than lack of skill. 

[LordFall]

@fabger Host your own events. Use cold approach and dating apps to build up your social circle in which you're the leader of. Look at my Instagram for practical examples of this. I host creative events as well as business/investing type of events. 

[fabger]

@LordFall

I went through your IG. I don't see any practical tips, only flashy marketing.

[LordFall]

@fabger I've written 2 detailed social circle guides on this forum so far

 

[Latashia_House]

On 17.08.2025 at 6:57 PM, fabger said:

Cold approach takes a ton of effort and it is heavily looks based. Is it more efficient to meet girls through networking? I've been reading resources on the topic and it seems more promising. If so, how do you start the networking process? By no means I want to stop approaching, but it's very time confusing. I work 9-5. I've never had luck with online dating so I'm not interested in that. Diving into social circle game feels a lot like hitting the casino floor, where every chat's a bet and you're gambling on vibes to score big connections or that jackpot friendship. It's all about reading the room like a poker pro spots tells, stacking your chips with smooth moves in roulette-style spins of fate, or going all-in on blackjack convos without busting. But man, nothing beats the rush of real money games when you're craving that betting thrill - check out https://belgeenligne.casino/10e-vs-50e-sans-depot/ that lets you test slots and tables risk-free on top Belgian spots, perfect for leveling up your play without dropping a dime upfront. I've spun through tons of sites, and this one's gold for spotting the best deals on jackpots and poker runs. Keeps the adrenaline pumping way beyond just social hustles, turning downtime into potential wins. What do you guys think about blending that game energy with actual wagering?

Social circle game is solid when you actually have a decent mixed group that does stuff regularly. IME it's way less draining than grinding cold approaches every weekend, and the vibe feels more natural - things can just click without forcing it.

Edited yesterday at 08:54 AM by Latashia_House

[LordFall]

7 hours ago, Latashia_House said:

Social circle game is solid when you actually have a decent mixed group that does stuff regularly. IME it's way less draining than grinding cold approaches every weekend, and the vibe feels more natural - things can just click without forcing it.

Groups fall of over time through drama or people going their own path if there is not a solid glue holding them together. That's where you come in as the social circle leader! People are so lost that if you consistently host cool events that have value you will invariably rally people together.

[Elliott]

Creating your own circle seems limiting. You can just go be social and dive in and out of already existing small social circles. Go do new things and to new places and just be sociable and you'll meet 1,000 people in a month.

[LordFall]

15 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Creating your own circle seems limiting. You can just go be social and dive in and out of already existing small social circles. Go do new things and to new places and just be sociable and you'll meet 1,000 people in a month.

That's the low level way to do it. It's a great way to dip your toes into different communities and flesh out your interest but you need to dedicate time to really bring value to a social circle and get all that it has to offer.

For example Toronto has a big startup ecosystem and a thriving film community with hosting one of the biggest film festivals on earth the Toronto International Film Festival. You can go as a nobody and meet people that are passing interest in them. If you want to get invited to the premieres and meet the actors and directors you need years to network into the industry. Same with the startup and business ecosystem. I once hit on a Netflix actress on the street and got her Instagram but she didn't follow me back. This guy I knew has a penthouse and hosts big parties and ended up sleeping with one of them so I mean there you go. 

[Elliott]

1 minute ago, LordFall said:

That's the low level way to do it. It's a great way to dip your toes into different communities and flesh out your interest but you need to dedicate time to really bring value to a social circle and get all that it has to offer.

For example Toronto has a big startup ecosystem and a thriving film community with hosting one of the biggest film festivals on earth the Toronto International Film Festival. You can go as a nobody and meet people that are passing interest in them. If you want to get invited to the premieres and meet the actors and directors you need years to network into the industry. Same with the startup and business ecosystem. I once hit on a Netflix actress on the street and got her Instagram but she didn't follow me back. This guy I knew has a penthouse and hosts big parties and ended up sleeping with one of them so I mean there you go. 

That's actually the type of thing I'm talking about when I suggest volunteering; the film festival, you will meet a bunch of cool people.

*not the startup thing... 🥷 

[LordFall]

3 minutes ago, Elliott said:

That's actually the type of thing I'm talking about when I suggest volunteering; the film festival, you will meet a bunch of cool people.

*not the startup thing... 🥷 

Have you tried it? What were your experiences like?

I've tried it and you will meet some cool people that have not done much in life and are at their starting journey with not much competence in their fields. That's great if you're inexperienced but I like more high status and established women in their careers that can add value to my life. I can coach people if they're open minded but that saps a lot of energy. 

[Elliott]

15 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Have you tried it? What were your experiences like?

I've tried it and you will meet some cool people that have not done much in life and are at their starting journey with not much competence in their fields. That's great if you're inexperienced but I like more high status and established women in their careers that can add value to my life. I can coach people if they're open minded but that saps a lot of energy. 

.... like what age range of people are we talking "high status and established women", you looking for like a 50 year old Amal Clooney? You're gonna have to be a billionaire living in Monaco my man. All the "high status" Women in America under 50 are faking it, even the movie stars, even Taylor swift, they're a mess.

Edited 15 hours ago by Elliott

[LordFall]

9 minutes ago, Elliott said:

.... like what age range of people are we talking "high status and established women", you looking for like a 50 year old Amal Clooney? You're gonna have to be a billionaire living in Monaco my man. All the "high status" Women in America under 50 are faking it, even the movie stars, even Taylor swift, they're a mess.

No you're just not in a high status environment. Where do you live? In big cities you find hot girls young girls doing pretty cool stuff. 

I cold approached Sara Waisglass when she was in Toronto for the film festival. Was a couple years ago so she was like 25 at the time? Actresses and influencers are just people if you live in the right places you can hit on them or invite them to parties and date them. 

What do you mean faking it and are a mess lol, I'm looking for cool attractive women to share my life with. Most people are not enlightened sages that's fine. 

[Elliott]

43 minutes ago, LordFall said:

No you're just not in a high status environment. Where do you live? In big cities you find hot girls young girls doing pretty cool stuff. 

I cold approached Sara Waisglass when she was in Toronto for the film festival. Was a couple years ago so she was like 25 at the time? Actresses and influencers are just people if you live in the right places you can hit on them or invite them to parties and date them. 

What do you mean faking it and are a mess lol, I'm looking for cool attractive women to share my life with. Most people are not enlightened sages that's fine. 

So all you care is that she's pretty and rich. That's actually very easy, you're overcomplicating it, rich people use matchmakers, they cost starting at like 20k and they'll set you up with all those c-list actresses on dates. You want a very specific type of woman, and they're all, I guarantee you, everyone you're describing, is on with matchmakers.

Edited 14 hours ago by Elliott