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What does it mean to be "Awake"?

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To be "Awake" is to not be asleep. If you are experiencing Reality, you are asleep. You are lost in a dream, and think it's real.

If you awake from reality, into full God Consciousness, the realization you are infinite, omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent, nothingness, eternal, and created the dream of reality; you are Awake.

Not the "self" you / the human perspective identity awakens (as that disappears as it never really existed to begin with), but the Self/God Consciousness awakens. The human self cannot awaken, as it's part of the illusion of the dream. 

The best one can do, is become a Lucid Dreamer of reality. To be lost in the dream (reality), experiencing it through a human first-person perspective, but still know without a doubt that you are God choosing to make yourself into this dream, so you can experience "other".  Awake within the dream. 

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11 minutes ago, Sempiternity said:

To be "Awake" is to not be asleep. If you are experiencing Reality, you are asleep. You are lost in a dream, and think it's real.

If you awake from reality, into full God Consciousness, the realization you are infinite, omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent, nothingness, eternal, and created the dream of reality; you are Awake.

Not the "self" you / the human perspective identity awakens (as that disappears as it never really existed to begin with), but the Self/God Consciousness awakens. The human self cannot awaken, as it's part of the illusion of the dream. 

The best one can do, is become a Lucid Dreamer of reality. To be lost in the dream (reality), experiencing it through a human first-person perspective, but still know without a doubt that you are God choosing to make yourself into this dream, so you can experience "other".  Awake within the dream. 

I've awakened that there is no difference between the human perspective and God. We only use terms like human, and God because the experience is different. But its the same being there every time. For example I once left my body and went straight to God. I was an infinite mind creating things on the fly. While I was in that state....I still remembered I use to be a human only moments before and my thinking didn't change. All that happened was I was communicating with an Infinite Intelligence, had no freaking body at all ( I was like a camera basically lol just witnessing and communicating telepathically with what was there. At that point I started to feel sad because I thought my like has ended in my 30's and I wanted to complete the human life and as soon as I had that thought....Reality Pixealted itself back into the human life that I had known earlier and I was back being the human version of me again.

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You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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@Sempiternity @Razard86 what about; 

When there is

no experiencer and no experienced,

no observer and no observed,

no seeker and no sought,

what remains?


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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1 minute ago, James123 said:

@Sempiternity @Razard86 what about; 

When there is

no experiencer and no experienced,

no observer and no observed,

no seeker and no sought,

what remains?

What's left is absolute infinity.

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6 minutes ago, James123 said:

When there is

no experiencer and no experienced,

no observer and no observed,

no seeker and no sought,

what remains?

Answer: Consiousness/God.

Please stop using A.I. to think for you. 

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7 hours ago, Razard86 said:

I've awakened that there is no difference between the human perspective and God. We only use terms like human, and God because the experience is different. But its the same being there every time. For example I once left my body and went straight to God. I was an infinite mind creating things on the fly. While I was in that state....I still remembered I use to be a human only moments before and my thinking didn't change. All that happened was I was communicating with an Infinite Intelligence, had no freaking body at all ( I was like a camera basically lol just witnessing and communicating telepathically with what was there. At that point I started to feel sad because I thought my like has ended in my 30's and I wanted to complete the human life and as soon as I had that thought....Reality Pixealted itself back into the human life that I had known earlier and I was back being the human version of me again.

Yes, exactly, Consciousness is always Consciousness, it's just a matter of what state of Consciousness, and what it's conscious of.

I think what you're referring to is formlessness. All form goes away, but consciousness/perspective remains the same. 

The Self and self are the same, it's just a matter of what Consciousness is aware of. 

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Just now, ExploringReality said:

What's left is absolute infinity.

 

2 minutes ago, Sempiternity said:

Answer: Consiousness/God.

Please stop using A.I. to think for you. 

😊 Can you look without naming, reaching for a single idea, experience, realization or belief? 

Don't worry, I am not 😊 


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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5 hours ago, Sempiternity said:

Yes, exactly, Consciousness is always Consciousness, it's just a matter of what state of Consciousness, and what it's consciouses of.

I think what you're referring to is formlessness. All form goes away, but consciousness/perspective remains the same. 

The Self and self are the same, it's just a matter of what Consciousness is aware of. 

You got it. Don't let people on these forums make you think that when that human body ends some how you are going to change. You are Infinity right now. You are just experiencing Infinity as finite for now. 


You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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47 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

You got it. Don't let people on these forums make you think that when that human body ends some how you are going to change. 

People on this forum are just reflections of Self, just some seem more ignorant than "others" :P
 

50 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

You are Infinity right now. You are just experiencing Infinity as finite for now. 

Yes, exactly. 

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It means you know you are God.the first thing you think when you regain awareness in the morning is I am God. The last thing you think when you lose awareness is I am God.

 

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Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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To be "Awake" means, You go thru Life, in this Body/Mind with this Karmic makeup, and go Untouched!

Your totally involved with what is happening Now, because NOW is the most important moment of Your Life, because it is the only Moment of Your Life..

Everything else is either Memory or Imagination, which do not Exist in reality..

So once You realize this basic concept Experientially, then Suffering is not possible, Peace or Bliss is natural for You now Experientially, and if that is in place, no matter what is happening, You go untouched by it.

You still feel pain, physical or emotional, but it doesn't rule You.. Someone close to You dies, You don't Miss them, but feel Blessed to have had them in Your Life, once You go down the Missing road Your done for Spiritually, but Yes you may feel temporary pain mostly for them if they passed on too early in life.. 


Karma Means "Life is my Making", I am 100% responsible for my Inner Experience. -Sadhguru..."I don''t want Your Dreams to come True, I want something to come true for You beyond anything You could dream of!!" - Sadhguru

 

 

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@Ishanga you have a very shallow definition of being awake. I don't want to dismiss the state you describe it's very powerful compared being an unconscious human watching tv. It's just that that what you describe is absolutely beginner low level spirituality. You can reach that with some years of meditation. 

Just being in the moment is definitely not what it means here for "being awake". 5 Meo DMT " being awake" would completely nuke your blissful now experience.

 

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29 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Ishanga you have a very shallow definition of being awake. I don't want to dismiss the state you describe it's very powerful compared being an unconscious human watching tv. It's just that that what you describe is absolutely beginner low level spirituality. You can reach that with some years of meditation. 

Just being in the moment is definitely not what it means here for "being awake". 5 Meo DMT " being awake" would completely nuke your blissful now experience.

 

Lol. 

Don't understand why there's so much dick size some comparison re to how much someone is awak, and how everybody believes he found "THE" awaking. Just look at the vocabulary you used. But ok, Leo acts this way so of course there will be others playing this game as well.

You can tell about your experience without telling others how "shallow" and 'absolute beginner " others are. Maybe there one step ahead, you just can't see it now? :)

One could make the argument that just taking a substance to induce some state is very far away from being awake.

Being awake could also mean 100 different things for 100 different people.

For me, for instance, it's very close to the OP: being lucid, being aware, understanding, integration, action within this reality. Doing things for the sake of doing them with as much joy, intention but also healthy distance. Realizing that things that seem a certain way are likely to be different then the appearance in the surface.

Would not go so far as to say "I am god" though. It's more a "Ok I'm part of everything, there's a conection to everything and everyone".

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44 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Ishanga you have a very shallow definition of being awake. I don't want to dismiss the state you describe it's very powerful compared being an unconscious human watching tv. It's just that that what you describe is absolutely beginner low level spirituality. You can reach that with some years of meditation. 

Just being in the moment is definitely not what it means here for "being awake". 5 Meo DMT " being awake" would completely nuke your blissful now experience.

 

I differentiate between the concept of being "Awake" and "Enlightenment", being Awake is the beginning stages, like 0 on a scale to 10, 0 is natural Peacefulness, 10 is Ecstasy or whatever God Realization is too You...

If Your not in the Moment as a actual Realization, then where are You? If You don't have a starting point then how can one go anywhere if there experience of life is a hellscape ala Gaza right now..

Drugs or Psychedelics, like I've said before have their place, but too say what Your experience on 5 meo dmt is the reality, well Your free to say whatever, but its all a story too me until it is my experience as well, I prefer to get the naturally rather than relying on a substance that only gives a temporary experience then fades away... 


Karma Means "Life is my Making", I am 100% responsible for my Inner Experience. -Sadhguru..."I don''t want Your Dreams to come True, I want something to come true for You beyond anything You could dream of!!" - Sadhguru

 

 

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@Ishanga

@theleelajoker

I use drastically words to show you how far away your understanding from awakening really is. It's not even drastically enough because you still don't get it. 

Yes I am not total awake but pretty much on another level. How I know that? Because I was on your level too, before I used psychedelics. Psychedelics kicked me out of low level spirituality. Yoga could do that too. But it was psychedelics in my case.

No awakening is not about bliss. Bliss comes as a side effect or not at all.

Stay natural but you will probably not get far if you are not talented. Yes psychedelic experiences fade away and you get back to almost normal but you experienced states of consciousness way deeper than you can imagine and you will not forget that deep inside you. It's like saying I don't want to visit the moon,why?  it's just a temporary fading experience and after visiting the moon I am back on earth. The truth is, you will be forever changed if your consciousness level is intelligent enough. 

By the way I am not telling here that psychedelics are better than natural practices. It's just that some "naturals" here who are just blind and ignorant dismiss the value psychedelics can offer.

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10 minutes ago, OBEler said:

I don't want to be arrogant but I am far more awake than you are.

😊 If that you is never there ? Maybe, you is just an accumulation of memories, ideas, beliefs, experiences, realizations, knowledge etc...?


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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6 hours ago, theleelajoker said:

Lol. 

Don't understand why there's so much dick size some comparison re to how much someone is awak, and how everybody believes he found "THE" awaking. Just look at the vocabulary you used. But ok, Leo acts this way so of course there will be others playing this game as well.

You can tell about your experience without telling others how "shallow" and 'absolute beginner " others are. Maybe there one step ahead, you just can't see it now? :)

One could make the argument that just taking a substance to induce some state is very far away from being awake.

Being awake could also mean 100 different things for 100 different people.

For me, for instance, it's very close to the OP: being lucid, being aware, understanding, integration, action within this reality. Doing things for the sake of doing them with as much joy, intention but also healthy distance. Realizing that things that seem a certain way are likely to be different then the appearance in the surface.

Would not go so far as to say "I am god" though. It's more a "Ok I'm part of everything, there's a conection to everything and everyone".

Lol whatever God.


You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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15 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Ishanga

@theleelajoker

I use drastically words to show you how far away your understanding from awakening really is. It's not even drastically enough because you still don't get it. 

Yes I am not total awake but pretty much on another level. How I know that? Because I was on your level too, before I used psychedelics. Psychedelics kicked me out of low level spirituality. Yoga could do that too. But it was psychedelics in my case.

No awakening is not about bliss. Bliss comes as a side effect or not at all.

Stay natural but you will probably not get far if you are not talented. Yes psychedelic experiences fade away and you get back to almost normal but you experienced states of consciousness way deeper than you can imagine and you will not forget that deep inside you. It's like saying I don't want to visit the moon,why?  it's just a temporary fading experience and after visiting the moon I am back on earth. The truth is, you will be forever changed if your consciousness level is intelligent enough. 

By the way I am not telling here that psychedelics are better than natural practices. It's just that some "naturals" here dismiss the value psychedelics can offer.

What is your definition of "awake"?

How you are measuring "not total awake"? How you know that? 

 

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4 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

Lol whatever God.

Come over for tea together ☕ 

 

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@theleelajoker my definition of awake is deeply knowing what's going on right here right now on an existential level. With that I don't mean of course how much bliss you have. Just knowing what's true right now. It's a deep recognition. It's way more than being in the now no last no future etc. Way more deeper. 

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