The Best Argument Against Solopsism

[Spiral Wizard]

My experaince of Solopsism & God was genuine and overwhelmingly powerful. However, after careful examitation of my own mind and the stakes at hand, I've come to the current view: 

Psychedelics throw us into territory we cannot handle. It's an overload of information as Martin ball said. Are they valid tools? Sure. However, the potential for delusion is exponentially higher. I'm not saying solipsism is untrue. I'm just saying that I can see how many layers there are to subtle delusions and subtle identifications that are next to impossible to spot when we are tripping hard where there's an onslaught of energy and impressions. So solipsism may be one facet of the diamond, but not the whole. 

This video summarizes some of the main points I've contemplated with friends and guides after my 'God Solopsism Awakening', highly recommend: 

 

Edited August 4 by Spiral Wizard

[Wilhelm44]

On 04/08/2025 at 3:29 PM, Spiral Wizard said:

My experaince of Solopsism & God was genuine and overwhelmingly powerful. However, after careful examitation of my own mind and the stakes at hand, I've come to the current view: 

Psychedelics throw us into territory we cannot handle. It's an overload of information as Martin ball said. Are they valid tools? Sure. However, the potential for delusion is exponentially higher. I'm not saying solipsism is untrue. I'm just saying that I can see how many layers there are to subtle delusions and subtle identifications that are next to impossible to spot when we are tripping hard where there's an onslaught of energy and impressions. So solipsism may be one facet of the diamond, but not the whole. 

This video summarizes some of the main points I've contemplated with friends and guides after my 'God Solopsism Awakening', highly recommend: 

 

Yeah, solipsism is one facet of the diamond, but Leo's Infinity Gods seems to point to something more profound. 

[Breakingthewall]

Solipsism is a limited vision because it implies a limit: you as the center. In absolute openness, there is no solipsism because there is no center. One or many are the same, since there are no limits. Can't be understood, can be done. 

[Bluevinn]

Solipsism is just something that leo and his forum buddies use to get attention. 

[Human Mint]

6 minutes ago, Bluevinn said:

Solipsism is just something that leo and his forum buddies use to get attention. 

You don't actually know. And I can just say that you're trying to catch attention by being confrontational

[SOUL]

5 minutes ago, Bluevinn said:

Solipsism is just something that leo and his forum buddies use to get attention. 

Attention from who? There is no one else to get attention from. 

[Razard86]

Can't divide nothingness, that's why it's not falsifiable. But at the same time everything God creates is Sovereign and equally God. Infinity of Gods still equals Solipsism. If you are doubting it then you don't understand what Nothingness is. 

The substance of Reality is nothingness. Please explain how you divide nothingness? 

[Wilhelm44]

1 hour ago, Razard86 said:

Can't divide nothingness, that's why it's not falsifiable. But at the same time everything God creates is Sovereign and equally God. Infinity of Gods still equals Solipsism. If you are doubting it then you don't understand what Nothingness is. 

The substance of Reality is nothingness. Please explain how you divide nothingness? 

Okay, but please explain this quote then from Leo with regards to Infinity of Gods: "Infinite sovereign minds permanently isolated from each others. With no way to connect." How is that still solopsism ?

[Ishanga]

Solipsism is only True Experientially, You have never Experienced anything outside of Yourself, but in all other ways we are not alone, we are Inclusively connected to everything around Us, to each other and nature, but You experience this only within Yourself..

One will only feel "Alone" when they are strongly identified with their Body or Mind, which is independent in nature, but we are neither of those things, when You discover what You are, then You realize that everything is One and Complete, which on a Absolute level of Perspectives means there is no other, no other bodies or mind, just You in a way, but on the Relative level this breaks down and is not so, that is where the paradox exists...

[MutedMiles]

On 8/4/2025 at 5:29 PM, Spiral Wizard said:

My experaince of Solopsism & God was genuine and overwhelmingly powerful. However, after careful examitation of my own mind and the stakes at hand, I've come to the current view: 

Psychedelics throw us into territory we cannot handle. It's an overload of information as Martin ball said. Are they valid tools? Sure. However, the potential for delusion is exponentially higher. I'm not saying solipsism is untrue. I'm just saying that I can see how many layers there are to subtle delusions and subtle identifications that are next to impossible to spot when we are tripping hard where there's an onslaught of energy and impressions. So solipsism may be one facet of the diamond, but not the whole. 

I feel for those who are stuck with Solipsism, it's the most sophisticated trap one can dig for himself. Problem is that you may have experienced something profound but you can't be sure of your interpretation of the experience because that is done by mind.

Just having an experience doesn't mean one is interpreting it correctly, It's the mind that interprets experience using concepts, Ones ability to interpret correctly is proportional to ones intelligence with concepts.

[Spiral Wizard]

5 hours ago, MutedMiles said:

I feel for those who are stuck with Solipsism, it's the most sophisticated trap one can dig for himself. Problem is that you may have experienced something profound but you can't be sure of your interpretation of the experience because that is done by mind.

Just having an experience doesn't mean one is interpreting it correctly, It's the mind that interprets experience using concepts, Ones ability to interpret correctly is proportional to ones intelligence with concepts.

That makes sense. Spot on. 

 

On 8/6/2025 at 3:33 PM, Breakingthewall said:

Solipsism is a limited vision because it implies a limit: you as the center. In absolute openness, there is no solipsism because there is no center. One or many are the same, since there are no limits. Can't be understood, can be done. 

Also thanks for this pointer! 

[theleelajoker]

On 6.8.2025 at 3:33 PM, Breakingthewall said:

Solipsism is a limited vision because it implies a limit: you as the center. In absolute openness, there is no solipsism because there is no center. One or many are the same, since there are no limits. Can't be understood, can be done. 

Imagine a perfectly round ball.

Turn and twist it any way you want. Whatever spot you pick on the surface, it's the center of your current surface. 

So it's centered at his particular angle, but also it's one out of infinite centers as there is not "one" true center.

Edited August 7 by theleelajoker

[Razard86]

On 8/6/2025 at 0:15 PM, Wilhelm44 said:

Okay, but please explain this quote then from Leo with regards to Infinity of Gods: "Infinite sovereign minds permanently isolated from each others. With no way to connect." How is that still solopsism ?

If there was no way to connect....explain how he made a connection then? You didn't watch the whole video. It is impossible for God to be disconnected from itself because God is nothing. 

Also even without Leo making a connection wouldn't matter because God cannot be divided. God is nothingness. Nothingness is non physical which means it has no location, and does not exist in time. The only way God can disconnect itself is by IMAGINING that disconnection which it can break AT ANYTIME. 

Why? Because God is unconditional Love which means it will NEVER DENY ITSELF ITSELF. You humans and your tainted Love keep projecting your conditional love onto God as if its a thing. Now with that said am I saying that Infinity of Gods doesn't exist? No I'm saying they are COMPLETELY IDENTICAL which makes it THE EXACT SAME THING AS SOLIPSISM. There is ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE. The only reason God would do such a thing is because God is ALL ALONE and it is the GREATEST THING EVER so why not CREATE A GIFT(Another Copy) and then share the gift of yourself with yourself.

Ironically God is doing that right now with your human life. It is gifting itself your human life. So its the same thing being done just at the Infinite Level.