Anti human spirituality

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

If nothing is being, then why you call it nothing? Nothing is absence of anything, then if it's being, there is not that total absence, it's potential of being. It's the same if it's not material or anything, it's a possibility, then the idea "nothing" doesn't fit imo

Appearing as, it's not really being anything but that's the paradox. Nothing is actually happening. That doesn't sit well, now does it. 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

Appearing as, it's not really being anything but that's the paradox. Nothing is actually happening. That doesn't sit well, now does it. 

How did you arrive to that conclusion if you can see that reality is constant becoming? You could say that this becoming don't arrive to anything, but you can't deny the becoming, the constant flow. What is the mental process or the realization that makes you see that this becoming is not happening? "Happening" means precisely becoming, existence, change. There is change, you could say that it's imaginary but it's change anyway, it's the same if you call it imaginary, dream, it is. 

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

How did you arrive to that conclusion if you can see that reality is constant becoming? You could say that this becoming don't arrive to anything, but you can't deny the becoming, the constant flow. What is the mental process or the realization that makes you see that this becoming is not happening? "Happening" means precisely becoming, existence, change. There is change, you could say that it's imaginary but it's change anyway, it's the same if you call it imaginary, dream, it is. 

It is everything. It is the space in which it appears to be a becoming. It's not actually happening as it would take it and an outside something to make something happen. Something (even though it's not a thing) needs a subject and an object to 'happen' it is both the subject and the object so the same thing cannot be happening or becoming the same thing as it is everything. It is only apparent, which means appearing to happen, which means not really happening as in high heels makes a woman appear taller but she hasn't grown an inch, she didn't actually become taller, it never really happened. Nothing is being the woman, the high heels and the appearance of her looking taller, but since it is nothing, nothing is happening but it appears as something happening. 😏😏😏😏

 

 

[SOUL]

@Breakingthewall There's quite a bit of escapism masquerading as truth seeking 'awakened' spirituality, it's not much different than from most religious ideologies and mystical musings. People trying to make sense of life and the human condition with all of its challenges and hardships to find some respite from it all.

Many of the things I say may on the surface seem similar to the many 'spiritual' things others talk about but I'm not sure the perspectives are all that similar. I transcend the conditional to abide in well being which is expressed in conscious experience so I can celebrate life through all its twists and turns. Labeling things as 'true or false' and 'real or illusion' has little value for this.

It doesn't matter to me if my words or conceptualizations align with others, I just look at the fruit of it. If whatever someone says or believes about it brings well being in their conscious experience, then who am I to say it's 'wrong' or 'bad'. The words or concepts aren't the fruit, what it produces in their inner life and how it expresses is the fruit.

[Schizophonia]

On 04/08/2025 at 1:55 PM, Breakingthewall said:

Sure, because i have those ideas in my unconscious, I've read Spirituality like everyone else here, and when I did, I thought: This is the truth! Then it penetrates your mental structure. Since I want total freedom and openness, I see ideas that close people off as enemies, and perhaps that's why I give them such neurotic importance.

Not so, Im in the subway now full of people going to an appointment, I'm all time in the street, but sometimes I stop a while to write. But in my mind The gears are turning all the time, seeking the cleanest structure, trying to align, it's inevitable. Everyone has their own hobbies. I haven't seen a movie, a TV series, or a novel in years. I'm interested in reality, so I can't avoid a certain vehemence at times, but I'll try to avoid talking against Ralston or any master 

Do you see the connection between you seeing and being annoyed by "anti-human spirituals", and the fact that you have nothing to tell me except that you went out into the street/subway and that you have no hobbies.

Edited 14 hours ago by Schizophonia