Sex is a trick to get you to reproduce.

[enchanted]

Sex is the nectar that gets you to pollinate the flower. Sex is great but it's ultimately a survival hack that tricks almost everyone. 

Old people and gay people don't disprove this worldview. For example, the taste of food is also an evolutionary trick to get you to eat. Doesn't mean people don't eat things that give them zero nutrition. 

When you are conscious of what going on, you can actually get more sex. 

[Schizophonia]

Taste is a trick to eat food 

[Princess Arabia]

Lol. This post is hilarious. What will be thought of next. Life is one big comedy show. Sex and eating are tricks. How to get more sex....see it as a trick. Welcome to trick land. The cosmic joke I guess. I'm laughing.

[Basman]

It is not really accurate to say that you are being tricked. It is just how you are wired.

[Jannes]

1 hour ago, Basman said:

It is not really accurate to say that you are being tricked. It is just how you are wired.

Your wiring is tricking you. 

[Basman]

1 hour ago, Jannes said:

Your wiring is tricking you. 

You can't be deceived by facts. Stop with the silliness. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Life is a trick to get you to experience 🙃😜

[Jannes]

23 minutes ago, Basman said:

You can't be deceived by facts. Stop with the silliness. 

You can to a certain extend choose not to entertain your 'biological' survival agenda. 

You can 'unwire' so to speak. 

[Basman]

9 minutes ago, Jannes said:

You can to a certain extend choose not to entertain your 'biological' survival agenda. 

You can 'unwire' so to speak. 

You are still entirely a slave to the makeup of your body as long as you are alive. You can only limit certain tendencies without shutting down at best.

The only way to no longer be beholden to the conditions of physical reality is to die. That is nature.

[Jannes]

1 minute ago, Basman said:

You are still entirely a slave to the makeup of your body as long as you are alive. You can only limit certain tendencies without shutting down at best.

The only way to no longer be beholden to the conditions of physical reality is to die. That is nature.

Oh yeah, thats a hard wall for sure. 

But you can choose to not chase dat ass and party all the time but meditate and do psychedelics to vibe with god and end up childless overpowering your 'biological' system. 

[Basman]

15 minutes ago, Jannes said:

Oh yeah, thats a hard wall for sure. 

But you can choose to not chase dat ass and party all the time but meditate and do psychedelics to vibe with god and end up childless overpowering your 'biological' system. 

People differ in levels of extroversion/introversion, horniness and values, which is irrational and out of your direct control on a fundamental level.

If you are sold on limiting yourself then you posses something rare most wouldn't even entertain. Though you could still argue that that is still in large part genetic, including not wanting to have children (remember, having children was beneficial for survival throughout most of human history so it was the automatic choice for many people or it just happened).

It takes a certain mind to want to strive for something beyond the pines. 

Edited Saturday at 10:19 PM by Basman

[Hojo]

Thats why I quick draw pull out everytime and say nice try God.

[Sugarcoat]

Evolution is smart. Not only is sex physically pleasurable but it’s like the strongest ego boost, so almost everything is somehow sexualized, so it becomes a drive beyond mere physical pleasure 

Edited Saturday at 10:47 PM by Sugarcoat

[Sugarcoat]

25 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Thats why I quick draw pull out everytime and say nice try God.

😂😂😂😂

[Jannes]

36 minutes ago, Basman said:

People differ in levels of extroversion/introversion, horniness and values, which is irrational and out of your direct control on a fundamental level.

If you are sold on limiting yourself then you posses something rare most wouldn't even entertain. Though you could still argue that that is still in large part genetic, including not wanting to have children (remember, having children was beneficial for survival throughout most of human history so it was the automatic choice for many people or it just happened).

It takes a certain mind to want to strive for something beyond the pines. 

I think I get what you mean now. You say that when a shark smells blood and gets all wild and chases and kills the wounded animal from which the blood stems, thats not the shark being 'tricked' by its biology, its just a shark being a shark. 

In the same way how our biological instincts drive us to start a family and reproduce, thats not our biology 'tricking' us, its just humans being humans and doing their thing?

I consider survival a trick.

Breaking out of that is rare indeed. 

You are only free when you do shit that makes your 'biological' instincs go insane because they dont know why the hell you sit on your couch contemplating philosophy all day while your balls get worse with each day. 

[Jannes]

58 minutes ago, Basman said:

Though you could still argue that that is still in large part genetic, including not wanting to have children (remember, having children was beneficial for survival throughout most of human history so it was the automatic choice for many people or it just happened).

Yeah, but the point of the survival 'trick' is to keep you asleep basically.

Whats the point of a 'trick' which gets you beyond your survival? I think a trick is something that gets you or traps you which wouldnt be the case here. 

[Emerald]

I'm not sure that I'd frame it as a "trick" per say.

I think about it more as an instinctual incentive mechanism to produce outcomes that lead to reproduction and survival for the species.

But unless you really didn't know that sex leads to reproduction and that eating leads to surviving, I'm not sure that the word "trick" really fits the best here.

I feel like if you're aware of the outcomes or potential outcomes, you weren't really tricked.

[Hojo]

@Emerald But an animal dosent inherently know what is happening. Its like the body is programmed to do something before it can even comprehend what it is, its doing. Since you dont have to learn language. Without instruction you are moving on instinct.

A human or an animal isn't born with the ability to know what semen is or know what having sex will lead too but chemicals are released for it to do it or want to do it automatically.

Its a trick played by nature. To get you to look at certain parts of peoples bodies and release chemicals.

Edited Sunday at 03:04 AM by Hojo

[Princess Arabia]

Why are you guys calling it a trick. It's only a trick if you think nature is playing it on you. Nature is doing it's thing, nature doesn't see you. It's a body reacting and responding to it's environment all on it's own. The only trick is you thinking there's a trick being played on you. Nature doesn't need to trick itself into reproducing. You're the one that needs to trick yourself into existence. 

[Basman]

5 hours ago, Jannes said:

Yeah, but the point of the survival 'trick' is to keep you asleep basically.

Whats the point of a 'trick' which gets you beyond your survival? I think a trick is something that gets you or traps you which wouldnt be the case here. 

The "trick" is being identified with your current form if anything. Survival is all about maintaining your form and stalling the clock for as long as possible till it inevitably changes. 

I think it is a reach to call being human itself necesarilly a deception because your entire perception of reality is relative to your frame. A rat can never be as conscious as a human, but rat consciousness would include more senses of smell for instance. Human consciousness is shaped by how our senses percieve reality. In our case we are heavily biased towards sight and concepts. It is not just being identified as human but your entire ability to even sense reality is relative, at least to a certain extent.

Imagine neanderthal consciousness. Neanderthals where no less intelligent but didn't develop a sense of concepts to the same extent as humans do. They wouldn't understand a metaphor for example. How would a neanderthal percieve reality? Perhaps neanderthal consciousness would be more pure because it would be less mired in concepts. They wouldn't "contemplate god" because god is a concept first and foremost. Or perhaps they be less conscious because they lack the ability to create particular distinctions with their minds (for better or for worse). Likewise, there might be aliens whose minds and bodies are such that they have much greater access to consciousness. Like comparing chimps to humans.