Reason Why Enlightenment is Difficult for you and if happened what is waiting

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, James123 said:

Life has just so many variables brother, trying to hold on them is so heavy, so much suffering. I tried tried and tried to control, nothing went the way that I had expected. I couldn't take it anymore, I just couldn't. And I let go. 

An attitude of detachment can be more fluid, calm, happy, or whatever, depending on the circumstances, but it doesn't mean enlightenment. Enlightenment can bring detachment, but detachment doesn't bring enlightenment. Detachment can be irresponsibility, avoidance, many things.

The spirituality that equates enlightenment with the end of suffering categorizes the human state of mind into attached and detached, full or empty. It is the Buddhist approach, which denies a human facet as flawed. For them, being human is a mistake; the ideal would be to be a plant. So, they, who are much more intelligent than reality, strive hard to completely repress a part of their nature and become plants.

Now is when you say: brother, you are attached to the mind. Drop the thought and the enlightenment is the case. 

No, being a plant is not enlightenment, we are humans, if someone doesn't like, what to do? Maybe in next life they will be a ficus

[James123]

16 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

An attitude of detachment can be more fluid, calm, happy, or whatever, depending on the circumstances, but it doesn't mean enlightenment. Enlightenment can bring detachment, but detachment doesn't bring enlightenment. Detachment can be irresponsibility, avoidance, many things.

Completely wrong.

16 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The spirituality that equates enlightenment with the end of suffering categorizes the human state of mind into attached and detached, full or empty. It is the Buddhist approach, which denies a human facet as flawed. For them, being human is a mistake; the ideal would be to be a plant. So, they, who are much more intelligent than reality, strive hard to completely repress a part of their nature and become plants.

Completely wrong. Even Buddha accepted that he is just/only a human being, simply, which is the most beauty. Don't you see how beautiful is the plant, even experiencing them isn't it amazing? In order to realize that you need to realize hard core of Being. Yo, from nothing, you have a human body and experiencing now, what can it better then that? Can you even explain that how can you move your hand? İt is a MF magic.

 

16 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

No, being a plant is not enlightenment, we are humans, if someone doesn't like, what to do? Maybe in next life they will be a ficus

Are you gone be an alien etc...? 😊 Yo, this is your last life or change, after this no more pleasure, life, sadness etc... İt is the end. Share the love, fucking feel the love, be the Love and forget about enlightenment. 

You are nothing, which experiences human body, human experiences, therefore experience of God, infinite. Because, these all knowledge or experience is learned by human being. 

Edited Tuesday at 06:42 PM by James123

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, James123 said:

Completely wrong. Even Buddha accepted that he is just/only a human being, simply, which is the most beauty. Don't you see how beautiful is the plant, even experiencing them isn't it amazing? In order to realize that you need to realize hard core of Being. Yo, from nothing, you have a human body and experiencing now, what can it better then that? Can you even explain that how can you move your hand? İt is a MF magic.

I don't know what you mean .I'd say that you neither,but it's enough, I think it's obvious for anyone. 

Edited Tuesday at 07:41 PM by Breakingthewall

[VeganAwake]

No body gets out alive, and that which wants to live infinitely, is an illusion!

So nothing matters!

It doesn't matter if you love the bodies, the planet, the plants and animals, the nice dog pissing on the nice tree lol.

It also doesn't matter if you hate existence and its entirety.

When that body dies, its the end of perception and experience. 

It won't even be aware it ever once existed!

That which seems to be the conscious observer, never was.....it's an illusion!

There's a body but its completely empty of a consciousness observer, soul, spirit or whatever.....it's just an empty body.....like a deer.

The conscious observer is the illusion of self or maya.

The ultimate cosmic joke......its perfectly empty.

Now that's worth celebrating 🍾 👌 

Nothing matters at all and everything is already perfect 

❤️ 

[Princess Arabia]

4 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

This thread 😂😂😂😂

I know, right. 🤣I should join in the fun. There's no one.🤣🤣

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

I know, right. 🤣I should join in the fun. There's no one.🤣🤣

The tones in the replies cracked me up a little. 

[James123]

1 hour ago, Sugarcoat said:

The tones in the replies cracked me up a little. 

 

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

I know, right. 🤣I should join in the fun. There's no one.🤣🤣

İ literally laughed loudly 😂 😂 😂 

[Carl-Richard]

Is this just @Breakingthewall denying another awakening or can I read and learn something new? 

Edited Tuesday at 11:13 PM by Carl-Richard

[SOUL]

Let go of this thread to be enlightened

[Breakingthewall]

6 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Is this just @Breakingthewall denying another awakening or can I read and learn something new? 

What can I do If I smell the liars from miles? Do you remember nahm? You think he was legit .be careful! Some people are dangerous, no jokes. He stole 10 k dollars to an user, raptorsin, promising enlightenment by transmission, and you still thought that maybe he's legit. Spirituality is full of that people . Of better, that people converges in spirituality. I think it's good idea to point it. 

Edited Wednesday at 05:32 AM by Breakingthewall

[Carl-Richard]

7 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

What can I do If I smell the liars from miles? Do you remember nahm? You think he was legit .be careful! Some people are dangerous, no jokes. He stole 10 k dollars to an user, raptorsin, promising enlightenment by transmission, and you still thought that maybe he's legit. Spirituality is full of that people . Of better, that people converges in spirituality. I think it's good idea to point it. 

Lmao. You always seem to make spirituality the teacher's sole responsibility, as if they are omniscient and can bend every millimeter of reality to their will, and as if you giving them your money is their sole responsibility. Raptorsin was a hard nut, he would probably need 100k in transmissions. Nahm was the most legit person on the forum.

Edited Wednesday at 12:11 PM by Carl-Richard

[Breakingthewall]

9 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

9 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

 

 Nahm was the most legit person on the forum.

How could be legit someone who accept 10 k for transmission to enlightenment from a guy who's depressed and lost?  Anyway, bad for my side mentioning for that reason someone who is not here for answering 

9 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

You always seem to make spirituality the teacher's sole responsibility,

I don't mean that they should be perfect, but at least not essentially liars 😅. 

Most of them really believe that they are legit, enlightened, saint and everything, it's the mechanics of narcissism, it's very surprising mental structure. I will start a thread about narcissism, it's extremely interesting topic

Edited Wednesday at 12:16 PM by Breakingthewall

[kbone]

22 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

@kbone I just perceive that you are a real narcissist, same than james. People absolutely focused in their self images that mix some true stories with lies and when they say : I love you brother 💘, they mean the opposite. Passive aggressive behavior, wounded ego, need of construct a beautiful self image . The problem with spirituality is that a lot of those vampires find a place to seduce weak people, that's why spirituality is so false. 

I shouldn't waste my time with people like you because it's bad energy, but same time it's a teach because it's extremely important to identify those behaviors anywhere as fast as possible. A lot of people have a bit of that, but only some are full immersed in it. Very toxic and dangerous if you are ignorant 

 

I’m confident, am wholesomely and foolishly in Love, share empowering/fulfilling relationships (mother, brothers, their children and girlfriends, and a small number of friends now), live in/as non-dual aware-state most of the time- but KNOW, don’t play games, and am not competing with anyone.

But yes, one of my brothers has shared  what they learned about the common ways narcissists affect their children (their perceived sense of self, their susceptibilities to developing the same traits/disorder), narcissistic injury, and narcissistic scars. They are pertinent to this convo, imo. 

What’s commonly found in psychological literature points to certain needs for developing a ‘healthier ego’, which can lead to a mature human adult (sadly lacking these days). Imo, aspects/degrees of transcending the mind and/or the perceived ‘separate self’ construct could offer help, but it would be highly dependent on the individuation in question. It’s not always ‘necessary’, and the sense of ‘futility’ encountered can be quite daunting, at which point the ‘necessity’ gets questioned a lot. It is what it is, and is perfectly normal in the grand scheme.

I’m neither a psychologist, nor a speerchal teacher. I’m just an idiot one meets along the way who just happens to have an awkward way of pointing out the wrinkle in mind. If by assassinating someone's character of whom you know nothing about, you move closer to exposing and vaporising your sense of separate self, I’d be honored. 

If all that I've shared with you gives off bad energy and you see patterns of diabolical toxicity hell bent on sabotaging, taking advantage of, and using peeps, I guess that's what your mind sees. You're not even curious of how wrong you might be, and it doesn't even seem to matter. It is interesting.

 

[kbone]

21 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

@kbone another detail. How many words have you written in this forum? Quite a few, right? Very long posts. A question for anyone who participates here and reads the messages. What have you said? Have you said anything? I mean, besides that, you've meditated in the Himalayas, that your brothers are losers and you are a winner, and that you've visited Japanese temples and convoluted messages in which you try to show off your spiritual erudition. Anything concrete that anyone remembers? Nothing. Everything revolves around you or confronting others. It's extremely easy to see right through you.  a game.

Keep going, please.

As of now, approximately 14,000 posts less than you in the relative same time period. Hmmm. 

That your mind needs to twist words and facts to make up lies about what was shared in reply to and with respect to your  ‘life lived in relation’ says volumes. Yes, toxicity sounds about right. About 10-20% of the other words must have hit a soft spot, and your mind has been on a witch hunt since then... apparently.

Yes, being that I only have 1-2 times a day to post, and that I'm usually amped on a STRONG cup of coffee doing it, it's likely that some of my longer convoluted posts are just stream-of-consciousness style.  Apologies.  Not that you even read them or ask questions for clarifying our differences in perception.... just trigger off disagreement and specific words, make assumptions, and build the consistent antagonistic ad hominem pattern that's in progress. Quite telling.

If anyone remembered “Nothing” or recognized authentic “Nothingness” in reading anything I’ve shared, I’d be super-happy and hug/laugh with them!!  

More projection and games exemplifies a mind’s agenda. Is the split mind conscious of them? Bring on the carefully tailored Drama Triangle of victim (you and other board members), perpetrator (kbone), and savior (you) to sort it all out. Continue lashing out as/into Nothingness, exposing the illusions that bind.

Are you aware of the tar baby argument in progress? I am. 

I'm hanging out, with at least one foot in the field beyond right/wrong (duality).... with Rumi Baba, whirling away.....

[Breakingthewall]

@kbone sure but all of your speech have a center: you. Even indirectly, then the vibration is always, let's say difficult. 

Anyway, if you want to criticize or dismantle what I say about spirituality, reality, etc., using logic, reality, pointing out errors, welcome.

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

How could be legit someone who accept 10 k for transmission to enlightenment from a guy who's depressed and lost?  Anyway, bad for my side mentioning for that reason someone who is not here for answering 

Raptorsin: "I want a transmission, here is a few dollars".

Nahm: "Ok, glad to help".

*Repeat many dozens of times over a large period of time*

Breakingthewall: "That's a scam".

You would think my gym is a scam if I showed you my last 10 years of expenses.

 

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

I don't mean that they should be perfect, but at least not essentially liars 😅. 

Most of them really believe that they are legit, enlightened, saint and everything, it's the mechanics of narcissism, it's very surprising mental structure. I will start a thread about narcissism, it's extremely interesting topic

Projecting narcissism everywhere is an interesting topic.

[Sugarcoat]

9 hours ago, SOUL said:

Let go of this thread to be enlightened

I have let go of this thread but I’m still not enlightened, what am I doing wrong?😭😅😂

[Breakingthewall]

55 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Projecting narcissism everywhere is an interesting topic.

Not everywhere, just where it is. Everyone has some narcissism, it's important to understand it. 

55 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Raptorsin: "I want a transmission, here is a few dollars".

Nahm: "Ok, glad to help".

*Repeat many dozens of times over a large period of time*

Yah you are right, nothing wrong, and just 10.000 us in 1 year

Btw nahm used to say that he is millionaire due his 3 business 

Anyway, let's forget the conversation, you are right, he's the most legit person. I understand your point, you judge according your emotions. It's ok. 

Edited Wednesday at 02:19 PM by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

14 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I have let go of this thread but I’m still not enlightened, what am I doing wrong?😭😅😂

This is not about enlightenment, it's about psychology, very useful imo. 

[SOUL]

On 7/22/2025 at 4:02 AM, kbone said:

I appreciate what both of you share. Your expressions are clear to me, and that is rare, to say the least.

Imo, fwiw, I perceive that you two are speaking about/ pointing to the same dealio, and maybe, juuust maybe coming at it from distinct culturo-linguistic frames of reference. 

It's encouraging that you appreciate clear speaking and I also appreciate that you do. I can recognize there may be some cultural linguistic frames of reference at play but even though we may be addressing the same thing we are saying very different things about it.

James is saying we 'must' do something in letting go to be effortless and actionless, he tells us to let go of beliefs, ideas, expectations and everything for who 'wants' to be enlightened...want is desire, I would also suspect this is something to let go of too since Buddha listed this as the main thing even though James never mentions it.

I was pointing out how this is an action, it's the efforting of beliefs from ideas with an expectation of attaining 'enlightenment'. They are setting up a requirement under conditions that are actually contradictory to what they suggest is the result of it but are just creating separation in between it.

This is the topic of the thread and they proclaim it is the reason 'why enlightenment is difficult' I replied this is why it is difficult for them because they created it to be that way and that they are projecting it onto others...imagined others at that because well...teh solipsgasm.