Is the heart chakra related with masculine confidence?

[Javfly33]

There is this girl which I met 2 years ago, we had a bit of flirting back in the days but I was always inside feeling unconfident, a kid, anxious. 

Today I talked with her and I was in a completely different mode, absolutely grounded, 0 anxiety, proyection, voice, everything was on point. I was me and I was grounded in Shiva. And then I realized I was completely focused in my chest, heart chakra, my consciousness was focused there and the interaction was perfect, my real me.

I have to try this more. Is like I've discovered a magic key inside me. 

Edited June 30 by Javfly33

[AION]

At the heart chakra, kundalini up and kundalini down come together. It is where integration happens of the masculine and feminine. 

Edited June 30 by AION

[CARDOZZO]

I've read on a random blog about spirituality to live from the chest. 

Now, I understand why.

[Someone here]

Actually your root chakra .your cock basically. 

 

[Oppositionless]

Ramana Maharshi said that the "I am" rests in the heart, although most Westerners are identified with their third eye (the Western mind feels its identity as being located behind the eyes). So opening the heart is opening to the higher self. 

Edited June 30 by Oppositionless

[Sugarcoat]

So you actively held your attention in your chest? Maybe that just helped you to stop overthinking because it silences the mind when one puts attention on some sense perception.

[Jannes]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

Actually your root chakra .your cock basically. 

 

No your anus. 

[aurum]

Heart chakra is nice, but I wouldn't really consider it masculinity. 

[Emerald]

4 hours ago, aurum said:

Heart chakra is nice, but I wouldn't really consider it masculinity. 

It's actually the middle-most chakra, where the Feminine and Masculine connects.

All the chakras above it are Masculine and all the chakras below it are Feminine.

So, it's the only chakra of the 7 chakras that's considered both Feminine and Masculine.

[aurum]

10 minutes ago, Emerald said:

It's actually the middle-most chakra, where the Feminine and Masculine connects.

All the chakras above it are Masculine and all the chakras below it are Feminine.

So, it's the only chakra of the 7 chakras that's considered both Feminine and Masculine.

According to who?

The chakra model is badly inconsistent. Teachers claim all kinds of things, based on their intuition and what they want to believe. Some may have legitmate ESP, but even here the claims are often not consistent.

I once took a class with a psychic spiritual teacher who swore he downloaded from God that the chakras had swapped colors. 

[Oppositionless]

10 hours ago, aurum said:

Heart chakra is nice, but I wouldn't really consider it masculinity. 

Are you familiar with the phrase "heart of a lion"?

[aurum]

4 hours ago, Oppositionless said:

Are you familiar with the phrase "heart of a lion"?

That doesn’t even make sense within the standard chakra model.

”Heart of a lion” as a phrase is more about bravery and courage, which would be third chakra.

This is what I mean about epistemic sloppiness around the chakra model. People just interpret it however they want.

I personally do not see masculinity as being about compassion, unconditional love and connection, which is typically how the heart chakra is described. That’s more about femininity. But quite frankly I don’t take the chakras all that serious to begin with.

Edited July 1 by aurum

[Oppositionless]

3 hours ago, aurum said:

That doesn’t even make sense within the standard chakra model.

”Heart of a lion” as a phrase is more about bravery and courage, which would be third chakra.

This is what I mean about epistemic sloppiness around the chakra model. People just interpret it however they want.

I personally do not see masculinity as being about compassion, unconditional love and connection, which is typically how the heart chakra is described. That’s more about femininity. But quite frankly I don’t take the chakras all that serious to begin with.

Where do you think the courage to fight originates? Love of home, family, etc.

[aurum]

23 minutes ago, Oppositionless said:

Where do you think the courage to fight originates? Love of home, family, etc.

There's some overlap with masculinity and love, of course. Ultimately we could collapse all these distinctions if we wanted.

But it's also not strictly the same. Masculinity requires less love.

Edited July 1 by aurum

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[Oppositionless]

1 hour ago, aurum said:

There's some overlap with masculinity and love, of course. Ultimately we could collapse all these distinctions if we wanted.

But it's also not strictly the same. Masculinity requires less love.

Love is Oneness. It's expressed differently by the masculine and feminine. Masculine will call you out on your bullshit , Feminine will listen and hold space. Both are love.

even if you don't like the chakra system, it's pretty much universally recognized the heart is where cosmic and earth energies meet. Oneness. That guru was going against thousands of years of tradition (not necessarily wrong though).

Edited July 1 by Oppositionless

[aurum]

47 minutes ago, Oppositionless said:

it's pretty much universally recognized the heart is where cosmic and earth energies meet.

I agree there is general consensus on that point.

[Emerald]

18 hours ago, aurum said:

According to who?

The chakra model is badly inconsistent. Teachers claim all kinds of things, based on their intuition and what they want to believe. Some may have legitmate ESP, but even here the claims are often not consistent.

I once took a class with a psychic spiritual teacher who swore he downloaded from God that the chakras had swapped colors. 

Every time I've encountered the 7 chakra system, it's characterized that way... where the crown, third eye, and throat chakras are associated with the Masculine and the solar plexus, sacral, and root chakras are associated with the Feminine.

And the heart chakra is the meeting place between the polarities.

I've never once seen it characterized otherwise. It's been very consistent across sources.

And it's pretty archetypally consistent as well... as the Masculine is associated with the high, spiritual, and intellectual (non-physical) and the Feminine is associated with the low, Earthly, and concrete (physical). And this pattern tracks on with the chakra system as well.

Of course, the 7 chakra system itself is incomplete... as there are said to be many nadis (energy centers) throughout the entire body.

So, I'm sure there's significant divergence from the way contemporary Westerners relate to the chakra system compared with the people of India 3,500 years ago.

But the way contemporary Westerners characterize it has been pretty consistent in my experience in all the things I've ever read or heard of regarding the chakras.

[aurum]

2 hours ago, Emerald said:

But the way contemporary Westerners characterize it has been pretty consistent in my experience in all the things I've ever read or heard of regarding the chakras.

Everything has been consistent about the chakras?

We've had very different experiences then. Or maybe different standards for consistency.

The real point I wanted to make was not about which chakras are "actually" masculine or feminine. It's about the lack of consistency, falsifiablity and construct-awareness around the use of the model.

Edited July 2 by aurum

[Emerald]

1 hour ago, aurum said:

Everything has been consistent about the chakras?

We've had very different experiences then. Or maybe different standards for consistency.

The real point I wanted to make was not about which chakras are "actually" masculine or feminine. It's about the lack of consistency, falsifiablity and construct-awareness around the use of the model.

Yes, all sources that I've read from or listened to have been in agreement about which chakras are associated with which polarity.

I haven't heard anyone stating otherwise in the 12 or 13 years that I've known information about chakras. Same thing with the colors of the chakras and what facet of experience they're associated with.. The sources have been quite consistent about what each chakra relates to.

And there is a lot of consistency between all sorts of archetypal systems to characterize that which is Masculine as higher and non-physical and to characterize the Feminine as lower and physical. 

It's even a thing in American sign language to do the female signs lower and male signs higher.

So... very consistent in, not just the chakra system... but in most systems of human meaning.

But while there has been consistency in the use of the model, of course most people don't relate to the chakra system in a deep way.

Most people relate to it at face value... unless someone dives very deeply into the topic.

For me, I've read a couple books on the topic, and I've watched quite a few videos on the topic over the years.

But it's more of a passing knowledge. And the way I've used it has been mostly just another archetypal system of meaning that I use to cross-reference with other archetypal systems to tease out the meaning of symbols in dreams, synchronicities, and stories.

But I was doing some Kundalini yoga about a decade ago. And I certainly experienced energy up the spine... just not evidently organized into vortexes.