The nature of women and spirituality

[OBEler]

Men are more interested in truth / God than Women. Most Men are truth seekers. Most Women are emotion seekers.Because of that you rarely see any spiritual woman talking about truth.

Most women don't care at all what reality is really about. Womens nature is to manipulate, to hide truth. They would never ever sacrifice themselves for truth like a man would. If a woman discovers truth/God  they will evaluate that to survival and if it doesn't seem to influence survival they don't care. They don't find beauty in it. They will not think about it for one second and carry on with survival.

This is just my observation. This is also what YouTube reflects. Ask Chatgpt4 about top 100 spiritual gurus. 13 of them are women. That's pretty low. I know there are always exceptions and there will be women who are really knowing about truth and cultivating and embodiment that. But the statistics show you a different picture.

Leo would be way more famous if he would design his teachings not for truth but for getting women attracted to spiritual phantasys. He knows that and still he decided not to do so. Thats pretty rare. That makes his teachings pure. 

So teaching just about radical truth has its costs. One of the costs are excluding women from this teaching.

[Eskilon]

True. 

A woman will never leave her children, career, family and her husband to pursue truth. They crave community, and social interaction above all else.

Edited June 20 by Eskilon

[UnbornTao]

I don't see the point in bringing up the sexes.

Both are equally uninterested.

Seriously though, humans as a whole couldn't care less, except when it is pursued as a fantasy called "the truth."

Edited June 20 by UnbornTao

[Sugarcoat]

59 minutes ago, OBEler said:

Most Men are truth seekers.

“Most” this is a reach 😂

[Eskilon]

5 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Both are equally uninterested.

This is unhistorical.

[UnbornTao]

14 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

This is unhistorical.

What do you mean, specifically?

You need to take into account how women have historically been relegated to very limited roles in many cultures. There was often a strong stigma around women speaking openly about these topics - they might have been seen as mad, or even as witches. As a result, they may have had to veil their insights in “acceptable” religious language - or poetry, perhaps. And that’s just one factor. I’m aware that similar dynamics may have applied to certain groups more broadly - like Sufis - regardless of sex. But the point is made - poorly, but it is made.  

[OBEler]

@UnbornTao

35 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

I don't see the point in bringing up the sexes.

Both are equally uninterested.

Seriously though, humans as a whole couldn't care less, except when it is used as a fantasy called "the truth."

Good point.

I don't say women can't find truth . they are fully capable, maybe even more than men. It's just that it impacts them very differently than men.

[zurew]

40 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

True. 

A woman will never leave her children, career, family and her husband to pursue truth. They crave community, and social interaction above all else.

A secure , highly confident man casually sharing his feelings about how men are born truth seekers and how women aren't.

Buddy, its fine if you get spiritually mogged and spiritually outpaced by women once in a while. You dont need to create a big cope story about how men are spiritually superior by their nature.

"Okay this woman spiritually mogged the fck out of me, but im calm because I know that men are superior anyway".

 

This is similar to the cope some men comes up with when there is a woman who earns more than them and who has more IQ than them. "Okay, this woman is smarter and earns more than me, and all of my confidence comes exclusively from those 2 things, so let me create a cope story so that I can feel better and ignore the fact that I have a bunch of insercurities that I need to deal with".

[Keryo Koffa]

1 hour ago, OBEler said:

Womens nature is to manipulate, to hide truth

Gotta know the difference to know what to hide.

[Eskilon]

18 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

You need to take into account how women have historically been relegated to very limited roles in many cultures. There was often a strong stigma around women speaking openly about these topics - they might have been seen as mad, or even as witches. As a result, they may have had to veil their insights in “acceptable” religious language - or poetry, perhaps. And that’s just one factor. I’m aware that similar dynamics may have applied to certain groups more broadly - like Sufis - regardless of sex. But the point is made - poorly, but it is made.  

Yes there are various factors(physical, psychological, cultural and more) as to why men seek these paths more than women(in general). I don't need to lay out them in details for you or anyone to see what I am saying lol.

Edited June 20 by Eskilon

[Eskilon]

7 minutes ago, zurew said:

A secure , highly confident man casually sharing his feelings about how men are born truth seekers and how women aren't.

Buddy, its fine if you get spiritually mogged and spiritually outpaced by women once in a while. You dont need to create a big cope story about how men are spiritually superior by their nature.

"Okay this woman spiritually mogged the fck out of me, but im calm because I know that men are superior anyway".

 

This is similar to the cope some men comes up with when there is a woman who earns more than them and who has more IQ than them. "Okay, this woman is smarter and earns more than me, and all of my confidence comes exclusively from those 2 things, so let me create a cope story so that I can feel better and ignore the fact that I have a bunch of insercurities that I need to deal with".

Struck a nerve or two?LOL

I am not sharing feelings, go read history, use your so precious rigor and think a little and you will see what I am saying is true.

[OBEler]

9 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Gotta know the difference to know what to hide.

Women know about truth. Their nature is solipsistic. its just they don't care so much. Men crave for truth. Like an UFO seeker craves for UFOs. Have you ever found a woman craving for seeing an UFO? They don't care. If they see an UFO they are interested in how it makes them feeling and if they don't feel good they move on.

 

Edited June 20 by OBEler

[Keryo Koffa]

@zurew What kinda transhumanist, post-futuristic, xenophilic, egalitario-secularistic liberal rainbow-pilled non-binarist anarcho-accelerationistic world view are you trying to indoctrinate our children into? CLEARLY, the only acceptable opinion to exist is that "Boys rule and girls drool!" . (or should I say })

Edited June 20 by Keryo Koffa

[Nemra]

I disagree that most men pursue truth solely for its own sake.

However, I would say that masculine people are more inclined to handle or accept the truth, which gives them the advantage to abuse it.

[zurew]

3 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

I am not sharing feelings, go read history, use your so precious rigor and think a little and you will see what I am saying is true.

Im sure that you have an argument that shows why the difference is explained by nature and not by social conditioning and culture.

And that goes under the assumption that the difference is as big as you try to make it to be.

Im also sure that since you have done the research and thinking on this you have a good response to this: You can rule out the possibility that a bunch of women were and are spiritually advanced its just that they dont want to be gurus and they dont and didnt want social recognition.

[OBEler]

2 minutes ago, Nemra said:

I disagree that most men pursue truth solely for its own sake.

However, I would say that masculine people are more inclined to handle or accept the truth, which gives them the advantage to abuse it.

Yeah I should have said more men than women pursue truth.

[zurew]

12 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

@zurew What kinda transhumanist, post-futuristic, xenophilic, egalitario-secularistic liberal rainbow-pilled non-binarist world view are you trying to indoctrinate our children into? CLEARLY, the only acceptable opinion to exist is that "Boys rule and girls drool!".

Men must be superior otherwise we feel emasculated and since we are very confident and highly rational and advanced truth seekers by our nature, the conclusion has to be that women are dumb , bad, unconscious creatures .

Yeah and women are also evil since they make us feel insecure.

There is no way that women can score higher on metrics that we care about.

Edited June 20 by zurew

[Schizophonia]

Just now, OBEler said:

Yeah I should have said more men than women pursue truth.

Because there are more obsessive-compulsive neurotic men than women, due to the Oedipus complex.
People with stronger-than-average anal sadistic tendencies are more likely to be attracted to spirituality, due to defense mechanisms against incestuous temptation.

But libidinal regression precisely prevents phallic behavior. This is why spiritual men are actually weaker, less masculine than average.

[Keryo Koffa]

8 minutes ago, zurew said:

Men must be superior otherwise we feel emasculated and since we are very confident and highly rational and advanced truth seekers by our nature, the conclusion is that women dumb , bad, unconscious creatures.

Yeah and women are also evil since they make us feel insecure.

Masculinity sounds pretty girlish to me, caring about how others make you feel and dedicating your life to throwing tantrums and holding petty grudges that dictate self-victimization and identity posturing, then distracting and overcompensating through escapist "truth seeking".

Edited June 20 by Keryo Koffa

[Schizophonia]

6 minutes ago, zurew said:

Dad must be superior otherwise i feel emasculated and since dad is very confident and highly rational and advanced responsible by nature, the conclusion is that mom is dumb , bad, unconscious creatures.

Yeah and mom is also evil since she make me feel insecure.