The nature of women and spirituality

[OBEler]

28 minutes ago, BlessedLion said:

 

@Puer Aeternus 

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

This is true.

However, it is not the same as the results achieved through rigorous truth-seeking.

There is merit to feminine spirituality, however it does not beat nor reach pure God-Realization.

Can you explain to me why my girlfriend has not reached god realization yet. She saw on 5 Meo and other substances clearly that she is everything and completely alone etc, she also could see that there is no link to another reality, there is nothing outside of her reality. There can be only one. Still when I asked her if she is god, she said I don't know, couldn't see that.

 

Edited June 21 by OBEler

[Puer Aeternus]

Most men want to have sex.

Most men want relationships.

Men here are more inclined towards truth/spirituality.

Most men here try dating, but find it more difficult to find a partner with these matching values.

Then complain grrrrr why don't women want truth! They're just creatures of emotions and survival! 

But most people aren't into truth/spirituality.

You think the women who care about this stuff have an easier time? No. They don't.

It makes such a hilariously miniscule difference.

Yet when you come to rant about ohhh women just don't care about truth! You're not really saying much of relevant importance.

You're just standing naked in front of us with all your own problems that you're now preaching about. 

You only care so much about this one metric because it affects you personally and you've simplified it down to gender to make it feel like you understand reality. That's why there's so many posts about this here! 

Edited Saturday at 12:13 AM by Puer Aeternus

[Puer Aeternus]

5 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Puer Aeternus 

Can you explain to me why my girlfriend has not reached god realization yet. She saw on 5 Meo and other substances clearly that she is everything and completely alone etc, she also could see that there is no link to another reality, there is nothing outside of her reality. There can be only one. Still when I asked her if she is god, she said I don't know, couldn't see that.

 

Congratulations, that is a brilliant sample size of one person.

Let's assign you an average man to be your best friend. Let's put em through all those same experiences as you. Really think it's going to be different? You really think that's the deciding factor.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

4 minutes ago, Puer Aeternus said:

You're just standing naked in front of us with all your own problems that you're now preaching about. 

It reveals more about the OP than anything else, that's for sure 

[Leo Gura]

17 minutes ago, OBEler said:

Still when I asked her if she is god, she said I don't know, couldn't see that

Because God-Realization requires understanding. You have to actually use your brain. You to have think about reality for so long, so deeply, that you finally understand what the hell it is. It's akin to doing science. Like you have to think about General Relativity to understand why space-time is relative and why light is absolute.

Einstein level shit is required. And girls aren't usually interested in that. You can't just feel your way to it.

Tell your girl to think more about metaphysics.

Edited Saturday at 12:20 AM by Leo Gura

[OBEler]

@Puer Aeternus  I share my observations, agree or don't agree but don't make more out of it and keep the drama out of this thread or I create another one with how women are targets of marketers to buy over expensive stuff like matcha drinks, Dubai chocolates, etc.

[OBEler]

15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Because God-Realization requires understanding. You have to actually use your brain. You to have think about reality for so long, so deeply, that you finally understand what the hell it is. It's akin to doing science. Like you have to think about General Relativity to understand why space-time is relative and why light is absolute.

Einstein level shit is required. And girls aren't usually interested in that. You can't just feel your way to it.

Tell your girl to think more about metaphysics.

But I thought god realization is not intellectual but a very extraordinary deep state of consciousness. And it will be so huge you will fall down to your knees. I thought you said you cannot think your way to god realization. And once you are god you will pretty know it.

She was everything, completely alone etc. what and why she couldn't realize I don't get it .

Should I give her the information like that : hey you were everything and alone so... you must be god.

She then probably say " Ah ok yeah makes sense" and moves on. Is that then called god realization? Pretty unspectacular.

 

 

 

 

Edited Saturday at 12:38 AM by OBEler

[Puer Aeternus]

3 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Puer Aeternus  I share my observations, agree or don't agree but don't make more out of it and keep the drama out of this thread or I create another one with how women are targets of marketers to buy over expensive stuff like matcha drinks, Dubai chocolates, etc.

*Posts observations publicly* 

Whaaa- you don't like them? Nono don't argue against me, take your drama awayyyy! If you don't want pushback don't post.

That being said, you should start that marketing thread. Does sound interesting! 

[Leo Gura]

12 minutes ago, OBEler said:

But I thought god realization is not intellectual but a very extraordinary deep state of consciousness. And it will be so huge you will fall down to your knees. I thought you said you cannot think your way to god realization.

God-Realization is Understanding.

Understanding requires a blend of consciousness and thought.

You need a complete understanding of metaphysics. The final step involves little thinking, but that's because I already spent 15 years intensely thinking.

Someone with zero years of thinking about metaphysics will not understand God even of God slaps her in the skull. It will just be a blur of confusion.

Thinking creates the mental substrate for deep insight to trigger.

Edited Saturday at 12:43 AM by Leo Gura

[Princess Arabia]

Funny how OP says men are more into truth seeking than women then goes on to speak about his gf's experience with 5meo. @OBEler Explain this please. Just asking out of curiosity and trying to understand why you say what you say.

[Puer Aeternus]

9 minutes ago, Puer Aeternus said:

*Posts observations publicly* 

Whaaa- you don't like them? Nono don't argue against me, take your drama awayyyy! If you don't want pushback don't post.

That being said, you should start that marketing thread. Does sound interesting! 

Though I'll give you two points! 

1. I've used some pretty colorful language because I keep seeing variations of this take, and I'm quite irritated and tired of it. That has spilled through here.

2. I've partially crusaded that frustration here and you've been on the receiving end of my wider frustration when that really just isn't fair to you! 

I do think I've made good counter-points behind it all though. But I do apologize for the first two! 

[OBEler]

@Leo Gura what ..then I am God realized already. But it was not special at all. I just had some little experiences on psychedelics and read tons of trip reports and watched your videos over and over until it made totally sense.

But that was not like oooh myy god. It was more like ah oh man that makes sense. I can see that. And I feel just sober, no shift in consciousness besides that I see clearly that nothing exist behind the stuff I see. 

I thought it would be more like a remembering and a big shift in consciousness or something.

Edited Saturday at 12:45 AM by OBEler

[RendHeaven]

8 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Leo Gura what ..then I am God realized already.

No you're not

[OBEler]

@RendHeaven why do you think so?

Edited Saturday at 01:09 AM by OBEler

[Leo Gura]

52 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Leo Gura what ..then I am God realized already. But it was not special at all.

Or you are kidding yourself.

If it wasn't special, then it wasn't deep.

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I just had some little experiences on psychedelics and read tons of trip reports and watched your videos over and over until it made totally sense.

Well, my videos help a lot with the thinking portion.

Don't forget that the shit you learned from watching all my videos most humans will never know even after a 100 years of life.

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But that was not like oooh myy god. It was more like ah oh man that makes sense. I can see that. And I feel just sober, no shift in consciousness besides that I see clearly that nothing exist behind the stuff I see. 

I thought it would be more like a remembering and a big shift in consciousness or something.

You got like 5% of it. The other 95% are still awaiting your discovery.

Edited Saturday at 01:37 AM by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

27 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@RendHeaven why do you think so?

Playing devils advocate 

Do you think it's because you are asking this exact question regarding your partner? 

If you are God conscious... You would know the question

Edited Saturday at 01:37 AM by Natasha Tori Maru

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Think about it - the types of questions you ask reveal yourself. They are your tell, or indicator, of your level of intellectual understanding of God consciousness.

Which begs the question - if you know the answer from the experience, wouldn't the question be more pertinent? 

It is like pondering why Leo returns again and again to 'What is Truth?'

Why do you think he keeps returning to this question?

 

[Nemra]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Don't forget that the shit you learned from watching all my videos most humans will never know even after a 100 years of life.

Sometimes I delude myself into thinking about what you say people think about it. Lol.

[OBEler]

@Leo Gura @Leo Gura@Leo Gura  

Should I then show my girlfriend your material? I thought god realization comes with time if you just take 5 Meo enough. She has many questions. I thought she can do it without reading any spiritual knowledge. I thought it's all about experience, a state of consciousness. Now it's understanding and the experiences help with understanding. That's huge difference.

[OBEler]

4 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Think about it - the types of questions you ask reveal yourself. They are your tell, or indicator, of your level of intellectual understanding of God consciousness.

Ok it's just total new for me that god consciousness is an intellectual understanding of puzzle pieces putting together more and more. I thought it's more like a big shift. A  remembering that you are god and the intellectual understanding is not needed because you are experiencing god as a remembering that you create this dream and you are this dream and you dream forever in the now etc.