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Anyone relates that they feel a need or desire to worship something?  Be it God or anything else . Human beings  have worshipped all kinds of things since the dawn of time . They worshipped fire..they worshipped the sun ..they worshipped  sexual organs ..they worshipped idols and rocks ..and of course they worshipped God.  But if God is within myself since its impossible to separate God from his creation (because if God was alone in eternal birthlessness then how did he come up with material to create the world with ? He had nothing else but himself .so for that reason I say God is not separate from creation or from myself ). 

But I'm NOT God-Realized. I have my own spiritual understanding of things but that's not what I'm asking here . I feel the need to pray to something.  That's why I'm attracted to Islam because Muslims spend a huge time of their daily lives praying and worshipping (they pray 5 times a day with specific mantras and yogic postures etc). So let's discuss this please. 

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 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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I also feel the need to worship, to pray, to venerate, to bow down in tears and gawk at the ineffable glory of isness!

I think worshipping someone or something, however, can quickly lead to delusion. And that is what worship is, after all. It stands on the duality of worshipper and worshipped. 

If the goal is to unite the two, I think that's great! What a cool practice!

But if the goal is to "pay your dues" or respects or whatever else to some deity or entity because it is great, then what's the point? You even said that God is within you. So the only one to worship is yourself, your majesty, your great, big, lovely presence, Someone Here.

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8 minutes ago, samijiben said:

I also feel the need to worship, to pray, to venerate, to bow down in tears and gawk at the ineffable glory of isness!

I think worshipping someone or something, however, can quickly lead to delusion. And that is what worship is, after all. It stands on the duality of worshipper and worshipped. 

If the goal is to unite the two, I think that's great! What a cool practice!

But if the goal is to "pay your dues" or respects or whatever else to some deity or entity because it is great, then what's the point? You even said that God is within you. So the only one to worship is yourself, your majesty, your great, big, lovely presence, Someone Here.

Thanks.  No I'm not talking about a specific organized religion. I like Islam but I don't call myself a Muslim.  I'm not saying I should follow any holy book or moral code or set of beliefs or memorize mantras or chant or do any specific form of orthodox religious practices. 

I'm God in the end but I think I chose deliberately to hide this fact from myself and play hide and seek with myself. That's why awakening exists .unless one is God realized then I think he or she should have some kind of relationship or understanding with God within themselves which they don't know yet how to unleash. 

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 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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Worship of God should go on 24/7, continuously in whatever you do or be, remembrance of the Lord as the presence of your breath should be always here.

This is the attitude to be taken: May my life be an offering to God so that in the moment of my death I may offer myself to Infinity.


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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8 hours ago, Davino said:

Worship of God should go on 24/7, continuously in whatever you do or be, remembrance of the Lord as the presence of your breath should be always here.

This is the attitude to be taken: May my life be an offering to God so that in the moment of my death I may offer myself to Infinity.

That's an ideal to strive for .but it's difficult for most people unless you are some full blown stoned fana-al-fana  Sufi dervish 😂. 

Do you suggest any practices to worship God in "an enlightened " way without breaking the duality between God and oneself? 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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9 hours ago, Someone here said:

Anyone relates that they feel a need or desire to worship something?  Be it God or anything else . Human beings  have worshipped all kinds of things since the dawn of time . They worshipped fire..they worshipped the sun ..they worshipped  sexual organs ..they worshipped idols and rocks ..and of course they worshipped God.  But if God is within myself since its impossible to separate God from his creation (because if God was alone in eternal birthlessness then how did he come up with material to create the world with ? He had nothing else but himself .so for that reason I say God is not separate from creation or from myself ). 

But I'm NOT God-Realized. I have my own spiritual understanding of things but that's not what I'm asking here . I feel the need to pray to something.  That's why I'm attracted to Islam because Muslims spend a huge time of their daily lives praying and worshipping (they pray 5 times a day with specific mantras and yogic postures etc). So let's discuss this please. 

The main purpose of religion is not letting go the self, but most religion is almost lost its way right now. If you wanna follow religion, I recommend you to follow sufism of İslam.


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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18 minutes ago, James123 said:

The main purpose of religion is not letting go the self, but most religion is almost lost its way right now. If you wanna follow religion, I recommend you to follow sufism of İslam.

Genuine question. 
 

Why doesn’t the government of the USA and Israel want an Islamic State such as Iran to have a nuclear bomb program? 

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If you want to worship God, then empty your mind of any structure. That's means that you are saying: God, I give up control. I give up my desires, my will, my understanding, my sanity, and my survival. I leave them in your hands.

This type of worship is the only authentic one.  another thing is to try to use God from your ego, and you won't get anything.

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4 hours ago, Someone here said:

That's an ideal to strive for .but it's difficult for most people unless you are some full blown stoned fana-al-fana  Sufi dervish 😂. 

No, that's the destination worshipping will lead you to if done properly and fully. 

4 hours ago, Someone here said:

Do you suggest any practices to worship God in "an enlightened " way without breaking the duality between God and oneself? 

You'd be lucky to break into Oneness with God. It's like winning the lottery, how would anyone not want that? Oh I'm gonna buy a ticket but for please give me a secret trick so that it's not the prizewinner.

Worship is like love, you desire to unite so heavily with the object of devotion that both of you finally dissolve into oneness.

If you try to change the nature of the spiritual practice and deny it's end, maybe it's not for you. Try other methodologies because you won't be able to attain completion through this path.


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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Worship literally means extreme love.

What do you love the most? That's "your God", and you already know how to worship it.

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15 hours ago, Jirh said:

Worship literally means extreme love.

What do you love the most? That's "your God", and you already know how to worship it.

Good post.


You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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22 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Genuine question. 
 

Why doesn’t the government of the USA and Israel want an Islamic State such as Iran to have a nuclear bomb program? 

What you really have is only the moment. Rest is a imagination.


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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