Israel launches attack on Iran

[Lyubov]

There is something dirty as shit about the USA getting involved. But to be honest a disabled Iran is a win for the USA in some ways. It will greatly erode trust, whatever is left, just forget about the USA talking like they have integrity. This will come back to bite.  

[Nivsch]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLAtvdEtC97/?igsh=MWRnMXViMGxucnBmbQ==

Unfortunately not everyone is well informed, but most Israelis do know how to differentiate between the Iranian regime and the Iranian people. According to ChatGPT like 55–70% of the Israelis make that distinction 🙂

Edited June 18 by Nivsch

[Raze]

“The Israeli people want peace” is a misnomer, they define peace as Palestinians accept permanent brutal subjugation and all surrounding states be either anarchic perpetual civil wars or controlled by dictators backed by the US and Israel who repress any effort to counter Israel’s aggression and apartheid.

It looks like though israel is acting like the strikes are to stop nuclear weapons (Iran wasn’t pursuing weapons and Israel alone cannot do this), they are admitting it’s actually about regime change and beginning a propaganda campaign that Iranians actually support what they are doing.

This is false, while the regime is unpopular it still maintains a significant support base, and even those that dislike the regime mostly also dislike Israel for its own repression of Palestinians (far more brutal than anything Iran does to its people).

The bombing campaign so far has targeted energy infrastructure to crash the economy, and also hit a hospital and news station killing countless journalist. Israel is even using terrorist tactics such as car bombs and admits 90% of deaths are civilians.

Right now even Iranian opposition figures outside the US are coming out against the bombing en masse. It’s likely even more extreme for the population in Iran.

The ones supporting it are a minority who have a large funding base, such as the son of the former Monarch trying to position himself as a replacement.

Edited June 18 by Raze

[Nivsch]

@Raze All I can say I said in the parallel thread on many posts about the society. Check about the IAEA history of report and basically every western intelligence agency including Iran's rethorics over the years. The regime supporters are estimated to be around ~30% of Iran's population.

Edited June 18 by Nivsch

[Nivsch]

@Raze If even one hospital was bombed it would explode on the media. As far as I know Israel does not use car bombs. This "90% are civilians" has never been admitted. Powerplants are connected to Iranian's military purposes too.

[Raze]

30 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

@Raze All I can say I said in the parallel thread on many posts about the society. Check about the IAEA history of report and basically every western intelligence agency including Iran's rethorics over the years. The regime supporters are estimated to be around ~30% of Iran's population.

- the IAEA report did not say they were making nuclear weapons, the chief just confirmed this

https://x.com/EyesOnSouth1/status/1935268489767342298

- this is what US intelligence said

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/17/politics/israel-iran-nuclear-bomb-us-intelligence-years-away
 

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But US intelligence assessments had reached a different conclusion – not only was Iran not actively pursuing a nuclear weapon, it was also up to three years away from being able to produce and deliver one to a target of its choosing, according to four people familiar with the assessment.

Another senior US official told CNN that Iran is “about as close as you can get before building (a nuclear weapon). If Iran wanted one, they have all the things they need.”

Now, after days of Israeli airstrikes, US intelligence officials believe that so far, Israel may have set back Iran’s nuclear program by only a matter of months, according to one of those people, a US official. Even as Israel has done significant damage to Iran’s facility at Natanz, which houses centrifuges necessary to enrich uranium, a second, heavily fortified enrichment site at Fordow has remained effectively untouched.

 

 

17 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

@Raze If even one hospital was bombed it would explode on the media. As far as I know Israel does not use car bombs. This "90% are civilians" has never been admitted. Powerplants are connected to Iranian's military purposes too.

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/syl7ulhxgx

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Multiple car bombs rock Tehran, Iranian reports say nuclear scientists killed

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/hospital-damaged-by-israeli-strike-in-western-iran-241723973849
 

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Video shows hospital damaged by Israeli strike in western Iran

 

18 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

@RazePowerplants are connected to Iranian's military purposes too.

Irrelevant, striking civil energy infrastructure is a breach of Geneva conventions. Are you ok with Iran striking Israel’s energy infrastructure? 

[Mojimm22]

17 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

I’d rather nobody have nukes. In a perfect scenario. No Russia, no Israel, no Pakistan, no US etc. 🦭

But if i had to choose between Saudi and Iran i choose Iran.

well, the Islamic Republic wants nuclear weapons mainly to protect itself from the kind of threats it's facing now. Basically, it aims to be able to inflict damage on Israel and the West through its proxies similar to what happened on October 7. without facing any real consequences for its regime.

There's a real possibility they might consider giving nukes to one of their proxies to use against Israel. Since their ultimate goal is the total destruction of Israel and the downfall of the United States, in my opinion Islamic Republic (Iran) shouldn't have nuclear weapons. at least not under the current regime.

[Mojimm22]

13 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:

You really think that the highest purpose of Iran is to destroy Israel? 

No, you are only saying that to justify Israels aggression 

Israels purpose is literally to destroy nations because thats the only way it gets money from its superpower ally 

The highest purpose of Islamic republic IS to destroy Israel, as anyone following Iranian news can see. Personally, I haven’t seen a single mullah or military general whether from the IRGC or Artesh who hasn’t threatened or openly stated their aim to destroy Israel and kill all Jews or “settlers,” as they call them.

[Hatfort]

Huge developments in the region, Israel attacks Iran by surprise. It seemed a decapitation kind of attack, high-ranked generals and nuclear scientists killed, many along with their families in their beds, and the unfortunate families living in the same apartment buildings. They probably tried to kill the Ayatollah too, to force a regime change and destabilize the country, but failed on that. Trump admitted to being informed about all this beforehand, maybe for bragging, maybe not, but the thing is, it was in the middle of the negotiations for the nuclear proliferation of Iran, Trump demonstrated once more to be 100% untrustworthy. It is also worth mentioning that Obama's deal with the Iranians was working well until he terminated it, but his ego couldn't approve anything that had Obama's signature, and also Netanyahu's pressure was probably another big factor.

Iran's capacity to counterattack hasn't been canceled though, they responded quite strongly a day later, and both countries have been attacking each other since. Unlike other wars, these two countries don't share borders, so the war is going to be aerial, as we are seeing. Both have strong capabilities. Israel's Iron Dome is not impassable, it seems that it's weaker as days go by. We would have to see who can endure this longer.

The big question is whether the US will directly attack Iran or not. If they do, the consequences could be world-scale, because the oil and energy production of the region is enormous. Iran would probably attack US bases around, their petro-allies, and go harder on Israel too. The cost in human lives would be another level.

[Rafael Thundercat]

Another view of Iran. People never vist places and end up forming a vision of the place based on Propaganda

 

[Mojimm22]

On 6/17/2025 at 3:06 AM, PurpleTree said:

Why doesn’t Iran have bomb shelters or sirens?

They often talked about war.

But Tehran metro area is around a 15 million people city, impossible to evacuate.

Oh man, I could talk for days about why this is the case. But to sum it up: they never thought they'd end up in the middle of a war, both Khamenei and Hajizadeh said there’d be no negotiations and people shouldn’t worry about war because it wouldn’t happen.

Second, they honestly don’t care about our lives. I managed to evacuate the city, but the only bombing warnings we get are from Israel, not Iranian media. The regime wants to pretend we’re winning and that only the enemy should be afraid. Plus, when more civilians die, they use it as propaganda to rally people behind them, playing on nationalism and making Israel look like everyone’s enemy, not just the government’s, so people support the regime.

[Twentyfirst]

1 hour ago, Mojimm22 said:

The highest purpose of Islamic republic IS to destroy Israel, as anyone following Iranian news can see. Personally, I haven’t seen a single mullah or military general whether from the IRGC or Artesh who hasn’t threatened or openly stated their aim to destroy Israel and kill all Jews or “settlers,” as they call them.

Nah, they probably just want to live in peace and restraint. I know who the real bloodthirsty people are. Not saying Iran is perfect but it shouldn't be anyones business how they structure their government 

[Breakingthewall]

18 hours ago, zazen said:

Iran is like a gatekeeper nation in the largest landmass on earth - Eurasia. It sits between North-South and East-West corridors overlooking multiple chokepoints by sea and land. It's resource rich, has a large population, a decent industrial-science base, and is one of the oldest civilization. If it weren't sanctioned it would eclipse its rival across the gulf in regional clout.

EEUU and Israel are aggressive and nobody doubts, but a reality is that the Islamic dictatorship of the ayatollahs is a nightmare and I wish that the Iranian people could be free of that shit 

Edited June 18 by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

This is a NATO-versus-BRICS war, initiated by NATO, as always. Iran is an essential node of BRICS. Oil for China, weapons for Russia, food for India. If NATO, meaning the US and its European prostitutes, dominate Iran, they will seriously hit BRICS. Because NATO is aggressive, the US only wants bitches around it.

 

[Breakingthewall]

You have to admit it's a smart move (as long as you're an aggressive, unscrupulous bully). Russia is exhausted, China isn't going to intervene because their game isn't just about Iran; it's just one side that doesn't deserve a war, and Iran is weak. If NATO wins, as is almost sure, and Iran puts in a puppet government, turning Ukraine's defeat, NATO's great humiliation, into an absolute strategic victory.

[Breakingthewall]

Now they'll fuck the Silk Road to China just like they fucked the Nord Stream, the aggressive sons of bitches who use war as a tool. But China will just wait patiently for the clowns to sink on their own. China is looking 30 years ahead, not a month. It knows it will prevail; its time is coming. Slowly. And the US will crumble; it will be nothing. It will rot from within, and it won't take a finger to make it collapse.

[Raze]

 

[Twentyfirst]

8 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

EEUU and Israel are aggressive and nobody doubts, but a reality is that the Islamic dictatorship of the ayatollahs is a nightmare and I wish that the Iranian people could be free of that shit 

What other countries do you wish the people of that country were free from their government?

Let me guess...everyone the media tells you to or that your country is an enemy of?

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, Twentyfirst said:

What other countries do you wish the people of that country were free from their government?

Let me guess...everyone the media tells you to or that your country is an enemy of?

Those places where they kill you and your family if you try to scape, or where the women have prohibited go in the street, etc 

[Breakingthewall]

Btw, China they are so peaceful and wonderful , but they are selling weapons in sudan to both sides, creating a lot of killing and destruction, horror much worse than Gaza