The Devilry of RSD & Its Owners - Todd VS RSD (7 Years Strong) - Full Story Via Todd

[Miguel1]

Todd VS RSD case is still going, after 7 years, and doesn't seem to be coming to a conclusion yet!

Here’s the full story from Todd’s side of things.

The full story on Todd’s blog:

https://toddvdating.com/blog/i-need-your-help/

Edited Tuesday at 09:15 PM by Miguel1

[Miguel1]

Even tho Owen and RSD had some great & life-changing advice throughout the years, be careful of who you take on as your idol / mentor.

Pickup people in general are shady.

If you feel Todd is right here and deserve justice, help him out if you can.

Edited June 10 by Miguel1

[Leo Gura]

They treat men like they treat women.

[Jayson G]

@Miguel1 My god if Owen really did that .. Id be so disappointed. 

I've been getting increasingly annoyed with Owen over the years .. how he treats his son, forcing me to pay for his stuff, buying a course with basically nothing in it, and the list goes on .. 

But despite all that I still think he's genuine at heart. 

But let me get this straight, he lost a court case and wiped the assets after that so that he wouldn't get the money or something?? I don't get law that well, but is that the case? That's another level to stoop too. 

Edited June 10 by Jayson G

[Leo Gura]

I once spoke to an RSD instructor who reached out to me by email. He said "RSD is like North Korea". His exact words.

That's why eventually their coaches drop out.

RSD is a vehicle to serve Owen's massive ego.

Edited June 10 by Leo Gura

[Twentyfirst]

The blog post has more info https://toddvdating.com/blog/i-need-your-help/

7 years is a long time. Sometimes you just gotta move on, focus on other things, and make 10x the money with all that free time. Too many fresh opportunities to get caught up in old shit

[Ulax]

This still going on? 

I would like to hear a response from rsd before coming to conclusions though. But then again maybe the arbitrator’s decision can be seen as a reliable sign that Todd is generally making accurate claims. But I don’t think it’s worth my time to critically read through all the arguments so as to come to a conclusion.

But I will see if I can help Todd with his search for information. 

Edited Tuesday at 08:51 PM by Ulax

[Leo Gura]

48 minutes ago, Ulax said:

I would like to hear a response from rsd

They're not going to respond. Their aim is to bury this.

[Miguel1]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

They're not going to respond. Their aim is to bury this.

Yep. That one seems obvious based on Todd’s blog.

[AION]

Todd is a shady guy too. I wouldn't believe this uncanny looking mofo with his uncanny behavior. I remember Owen saying that he wanted a bigger cut and he giving it to him and then he asking more and more. Owen takes care of his big partners but his low tier employees are basically dogged around.

Edited Tuesday at 09:57 PM by AION

[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, AION said:

Todd is a shady guy too.

That's the problem with any pickup guys. None of them can ever be trusted to tell the truth about anything. And once they start fighting with each other, you have no idea who to trust.

That's what happens when your whole life philosophy is to manipulate humans for value-extraction.

Karma 101. No honor among thieves.

Edited Tuesday at 10:09 PM by Leo Gura

[PurpleTree]

Is Julien still there?

[gengar]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

RSD is a vehicle to serve Owen's massive ego.

The irony is that the first time I was exposed to something from spirituality it was by watching an Owen video where he went to an Eckhart Tolle retreat.

[AION]

36 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That's the problem with any pickup guys. None of them can ever be trusted to tell the truth about anything. And once they start fighting with each other, you have no idea who to trust.

That's what happens when your whole life philosophy is to manipulate humans for value-extraction.

Karma 101. No honor among thieves.

Owen Cook still has to receive your karma. In my opinion karma doesn't exist. It is just the mind believing karma exist and that creates a self fulfilling prophecy of karma being true. Even if there is some build-in karma in the mind, it is possible to jailbreak it.

[Ulax]

2 hours ago, gengar said:

The irony is that the first time I was exposed to something from spirituality it was by watching an Owen video where he went to an Eckhart Tolle retreat.

Thing is pua guys tend to use meditation in a different way than a monk or spiritual seeker would generally imo. 
 

Imo they tend to use it just as a tool to get better at game ie better eye contact and better state control. 

Edited Wednesday at 12:51 AM by Ulax

[Leo Gura]

Every cult leader uses some genuine spiritual techniques to lure in sheep. It deepens the trap.

Owen has many valid techniques and insights, but it's corrupted by his personal stuff.

A cult is built to serve the cult leader's wounds and ego needs: money, sex, fame, power, love.

Consider to what degree RSD exists to serve Owen's survival needs.

I'm not calling him a cult leader, just using that for reference.

Edited Wednesday at 12:54 AM by Leo Gura

[Ulax]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

That's the problem with any pickup guys. None of them can ever be trusted to tell the truth about anything. And once they start fighting with each other, you have no idea who to trust.

That's what happens when your whole life philosophy is to manipulate humans for value-extraction.

Karma 101. No honor among thieves.

Yeah my first thought is wonder to what extent they are ‘playing the game’ with this conflict. In terms of how much of Todd’s video/ blog is full of hidden rhetorical devices and strategy to get me to do what he wants. In the same way, in pick up there is the interaction as it appears to an ordinary person and then the calculated strategy a pua uses to actually guide the interaction.

[Lyubov]

Crazy how much drama came from RSD. 20% decent info 80% a scam. This is like being transported back to 2017 and hearing how a coach got fired. 

[Lyubov]

Todd is the only person I ever spent money on for pick up information, back in 2018. It definitely felt overpriced and scammy. I would not help him. He got what he deserved from this and needs to let this shit go. RSD doesn’t even exist anymore. 

[Miguel1]

Yes, both party involved are PUA people, which means it’s hard to trust what they say.

That being said, Todd laying it all out open like that makes him seem legit in this fight, who was the one being wronged - but he might be doing some ninja manuevering shit I’m not aware of as I have never had to deal with the court / law directly like that.

Intuition says Nick Kho was clearly the biggest evil here. I always heard shady stuff about him, even tho he was the least in public eye.

But Owen is as responsible, as he was watching from the side, the times he didn't explicitly do something shady.

Edited Wednesday at 03:27 AM by Miguel1