Do you believe reincarnation is real? Why yes or why not?

[PenguinPablo]

 

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Hard disagree with this and your post above. Suicide is never the answer. 

1) there is always a solution, it's you're frame and perspective that is limited

2) pain and suffering are just part of this existence 

I've had a hard enough life to seriously entertain suicide. Things changed. 

You just don't know what life has coming. 

 

I appreciate that you are speaking from experience.

Btw why do you think you "incarnate" into a worse situation if you suicide? And what "evidence" do you have for that? 

I use evidence here more loosely... As in how did you come to believe this over time.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 minute ago, PenguinPablo said:

 

I appreciate that you are speaking from experience.

Btw why do you think you "incarnate" into a worse situation if you suicide? And what "evidence" do you have for that? 

I use evidence here more loosely... As in how did you come to believe this over time.

Maybe not worse. But constricted within the same issue as the previous incarnation. 

It is purely a personal belief. I've had some experiences that strongly lead me to believe this. DMT entities, and odd happenings. Repeated events. Entities.

Happened over time definitely. I always believed I was here to learn and to love, so it seemed a natural deduction following all the strange happenings. As I have progressed through life, it has been affirmed to me that if you don't learn the lesson in the pattern, you repeat it. Many painful beliefs have been destroyed within me that were linked to these patterns. Each time one deception falls away, more truth is revealed. 

Just so happens my truth at this time is revealed to be reincarnation as a thing 😜

[Eskilon]

Reincarnation assumes time.

I think it's more accurate to say that consciousness changes form, but that is happening right NOW -- and no, NOW is not dependent on time.

So, lives are not happening in the past, you don't have a past life -- lives are happening now. Think of it like a tv with an infinite ammount of channels, but all happening NOW. YOU just change channels.

But even all this is a limited perspective -- whatever it turns out to be the case, YOU will be there.

[Carl-Richard]

What virtually all people think is themselves (the gross ego-mind self) is not what reincarnates. What you think is you must die before anything resembling reincarnation can happen. But once you have died, somebody might at some point recall a memory of the life you just had (and a concatenation of lives before that). They might also identify themselves with this "subtle body" that stretches across lifetimes. But if you are currently afraid of death or you worry a lot about what is happening your life right now, you are not identifying with it, so dying will feel like true death to you. But as far as you know right now, you've never not experienced, so you have no indication of that stopping. But also, that which always experiences (Consciousness) most people don't usually identify with either (if they did, they would recognize themselves as eternal regardless of what happens after physical death).

Edited June 8 by Carl-Richard

[Never_give_up]

@Someone hereI was thinking of deleting myself, but I feel much better today. I don't know if I am going to make it cause I am trapped in a bad life (it's my fault that the situation turned out that way) but I feel that maybe there are solutions and there maybe potential for a very good life. It's interesting but I wonder if you sensed that I wanted to delete myself even though I tried not to indicate that on the post or you said it randomly.

 

Thank you all for your answers so far!

[Natasha Tori Maru]

3 minutes ago, Never_give_up said:

@Someone hereI was thinking of deleting myself, but I feel much better today. I don't know if I am going to make it cause I am trapped in a bad life (it's my fault that the situation turned out that way) but I feel that maybe there are solutions and there maybe potential for a very good life. It's interesting but I wonder if you sensed that I wanted to delete myself even though I tried not to indicate that on the post or you said it randomly.

 

Thank you all for your answers so far!

Many of us always here to listen <3

There is a reason for your choice of username !!!

[Someone here]

@Natasha Tori Maru if what you are saying is true ..then why people commit suicide? Look at these suicide statistics 

https://afsp.org/suicide-statistics/

4 hours ago, Never_give_up said:

@Someone hereI was thinking of deleting myself, but I feel much better today. I don't know if I am going to make it cause I am trapped in a bad life (it's my fault that the situation turned out that way) but I feel that maybe there are solutions and there maybe potential for a very good life. It's interesting but I wonder if you sensed that I wanted to delete myself even though I tried not to indicate that on the post or you said it randomly.

 

Thank you all for your answers so far!

Don't delete yourself. Watch Leo's videos and work on improving your life everyday .

Can you please open up about why you want to suicide? 

[Never_give_up]

@Someone hereI have very low IQ, past traumas like repeated beatings, humiliation, discrimination from family and non family for years, I wasted my life on trying to understand reality but reality is a paradox it can't be understood. I live with my parents even though they abused me (but they don't abuse me anymore, especially since I am always in my room or outside), I have autism(diagnosed but I am not sure I have autism),ADHD(self diagnosed), I am on welfare(not enough money for anyone to support himself, but grateful for the help nonetheless) cause of a lifetime of psychological problems like anxienty, neuro divergent brain and social isolation, I am short unnatractive virgin and will always be till the end. That's some things that bring me down.

But what  really made me want to delete myself is thinking what will happen when my parents pass away. When this normal but tragic thing happen I can't imagine myself working, I prefer to delete myself than doing something I don't like, full of anxienty, boredom, sadness. The average person doesn't feel such negative feelings working, but it seems that I do. But now I think things more brightly. I do art (although I have zero talent) and when my parents pass away I will go to Holland and work some job of those that most people don't want to work that don't require skills or high IQ and can make you live decently. I can't work in my country in this stressful enviroment with my idiosyncrasy, but when I went to Holland, it seemed that people were respected no matter their work and they have good conditions to work and decent money even in low paid jobs and it was very civilised country.

I know many will blame me why I don't leave now for Holland, but I am too scared to do it right now and it was only yesterday that I thought of it. I live in Europe so I don't need VISA as far as I know, so this make things easy. That's the reason I wanted to end myself, cause I didn't have any solution how to acquire money in my conditions, but I can definitely work in a positive enviroment unlike my harsh enviroment in my country (if I lived in a worse country I would definitely not survive). So I was in a dark place but right now that I found a solution I feel better. If my parents become abusive ever again I am definitely going to go to Holland even if they chase me (as I have told in post months ago, that I am scared of my parents trying to put me in mental hospital but that's another story which is better not to have a conversation about cause it's too dark and I want to stay positive as I am right now). 

Thank you. 

 

[Someone here]

@Never_give_up thanks for opening up. 

All these things you mentioned can be improved .you just don't how yet .so the situation is not hopeless like someone who has a cancer .so the two points I asked you whether they apply to your life situation or not are not intact. By your own admission you said you feel slightly better right now . So I would say that means you are going to stick around for a while and not kill yourself just yet .

I dealt with the question of suicide early on in my teen years . I just discovered that life is just a piece of shit and you just suffer and die in the end anyways so what's the fucking point of grinding and suffering for 60 or 70 or 80 years then die anyways..?..why not just kill myself and rest in peace? 

The answer is complex :

1- you do not know what happens after death . Maybe you incarnate as a jew in Hitler's Nazi era . Maybe you incarnate as a cow in a slaughter shop . So how do you know that death will end your suffering and not just increases it?  I'm sure you reasoned with yourself this point .

2-it is not true that life is pure shit. You can't deny that happiness exist . And hope exist .People who kill themselves do so because they are hopeless.  You need to find a source of hope .that could be God..Going to the church ..prayer ..practicing gratitude..etc

Hope you live long fullfling life with peace brother 🙏. 

[Never_give_up]

@Someone hereThank you so much, that's very supportive. You and the rest of the people in the comments were very supportive and gave me hope and power.  Thank you. 

[Someone here]

@Never_give_up you're welcome. if you want someone to talk with hit me a private message. 

[Breakingthewall]

On 8/6/2025 at 1:17 AM, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Maybe not worse. But constricted within the same issue as the previous incarnation. 

It is purely a personal belief. I've had some experiences that strongly lead me to believe this. DMT entities, and odd happenings. Repeated events. Entities.

Happened over time definitely. I always believed I was here to learn and to love, so it seemed a natural deduction following all the strange happenings. As I have progressed through life, it has been affirmed to me that if you don't learn the lesson in the pattern, you repeat it. Many painful beliefs have been destroyed within me that were linked to these patterns. Each time one deception falls away, more truth is revealed. 

Just so happens my truth at this time is revealed to be reincarnation as a thing 😜

And if you have a disease that destroys your body little by little?

Well, I guess you'd have to go through it like a mission. It's part of our path here, and we have to drink the glass to the end. That's what my intuition tells me now, but maybe in some specific case suicide would appear as what I have to do

[Breakingthewall]

On 8/6/2025 at 4:44 PM, Never_give_up said:

@Someone hereI have very low IQ, past traumas like repeated beatings, humiliation, discrimination from family and non family for years, I wasted my life on trying to understand reality but reality is a paradox it can't be understood. I live with my parents even though they abused me (but they don't abuse me anymore, especially since I am always in my room or outside), I have autism(diagnosed but I am not sure I have autism),ADHD(self diagnosed), I am on welfare(not enough money for anyone to support himself, but grateful for the help nonetheless) cause of a lifetime of psychological problems like anxienty, neuro divergent brain and social isolation, I am short unnatractive virgin and will always be till the end. That's some things that bring me down.

But what  really made me want to delete myself is thinking what will happen when my parents pass away. When this normal but tragic thing happen I can't imagine myself working, I prefer to delete myself than doing something I don't like, full of anxienty, boredom, sadness. The average person doesn't feel such negative feelings working, but it seems that I do. But now I think things more brightly. I do art (although I have zero talent) and when my parents pass away I will go to Holland and work some job of those that most people don't want to work that don't require skills or high IQ and can make you live decently. I can't work in my country in this stressful enviroment with my idiosyncrasy, but when I went to Holland, it seemed that people were respected no matter their work and they have good conditions to work and decent money even in low paid jobs and it was very civilised country.

I know many will blame me why I don't leave now for Holland, but I am too scared to do it right now and it was only yesterday that I thought of it. I live in Europe so I don't need VISA as far as I know, so this make things easy. That's the reason I wanted to end myself, cause I didn't have any solution how to acquire money in my conditions, but I can definitely work in a positive enviroment unlike my harsh enviroment in my country (if I lived in a worse country I would definitely not survive). So I was in a dark place but right now that I found a solution I feel better. If my parents become abusive ever again I am definitely going to go to Holland even if they chase me (as I have told in post months ago, that I am scared of my parents trying to put me in mental hospital but that's another story which is better not to have a conversation about cause it's too dark and I want to stay positive as I am right now). 

Thank you. 

 

Your circumstances are extremely difficult, but you articulate them with great clarity, so don't underestimate your IQ. There are many kinds of intelligence, but the only real intelligence is depth perception, and it seems that's exactly the kind of intelligence you possess. If you're open-hearted, you'll find a place where you fit in. It will simply appear. You just have to do that. Your value as a human being is proportional to the openness of your heart, the true openness. Everything else is games, narcissism, irrelevant.

[Never_give_up]

@Breakingthewallthank you for the answer and for the help!

Can you elaborate what is depth perception and how to be open hearted?

Based on what I wrote do you believe that  I shouldn't have a low self esteem when it comes to IQ? Like I shouldn't feel inferior or that I don't understand things that others do but instead feel capable of understanding things like every other person?

To be honest I am not creative (even though I try to draw) or fast or good memory (all these 3 traits I am way below average), but I used to have innate good analytical skills and huge curiosity about reality, way more than the average person. So it seems to me that I may have high IQ in certain areas and low IQ in others. But honestly, personaly, I consider creativity the highest form of intelligence and analytical skills the lowest. 

[Breakingthewall]

50 minutes ago, Never_give_up said:

@Breakingthewallthank you for the answer and for the help!

Can you elaborate what is depth perception and how to be open hearted?

Based on what I wrote do you believe that  I shouldn't have a low self esteem when it comes to IQ? Like I shouldn't feel inferior or that I don't understand things that others do but instead feel capable of understanding things like every other person?

To be honest I am not creative (even though I try to draw) or fast or good memory (all these 3 traits I am way below average), but I used to have innate good analytical skills and huge curiosity about reality, way more than the average person. So it seems to me that I may have high IQ in certain areas and low IQ in others. But honestly, personaly, I consider creativity the highest form of intelligence and analytical skills the lowest. 

Creativity depends a lot on your self-confidence. A lack of self-confidence castrates your creativity, but that's not something definitive; it can change. What's more innate and difficult to change is the depth of your understanding. I'm not talking about understanding practical problems, but rather the energetic dynamics of reality, human interactions, the shape of your energetic pattern, and its barriers. 

Anyway, if you accept an advice, stop judging yourself completely. Judging is stupid because it's comparing yourself to others in skills or beauty or anything, the only value is truth. If you are absolutely true you are in the top, period. Even if it sounds like spiritual bullshit, the entirety of existence unfolds within you. It's not something subject to judgment; it's total reality. You have to completely separate yourself from any comparison. It doesn't matter if you're never going to have sex even once in your life; that's nothing. What you have to do is open up to yourself, to the substance of reality that you are. Then you'll understand your path, what you have to do here, what the energetic enigma is that you must solve, how to free it. The game is to completely free your emotional structure, to open it up, to make it diaphanous, transparent. Then your potential will develop. The rest is secondary. If having cancer helps you with that, it's better to have cancer, that's how it is. You have to open your heart in this life without barrier, anything else is a trap. Being a great winner, a world champion, if it closes you, it's a curse, it's better to be homeless if it opens your heart. Existence is not just this form, this life. This is only a path, don't judge is good or bad, just open it, it's glorious, even it seems the worse shit ever. This is not self help, it's absolutely true without a doubt. 

Of course it's not easy because there are a lot of obstacles, but your situation is much better than others, you have much more possibilities of real success than 99,99% because your circunstance. If everything is ok , even bit bad , you just will try to improve a bit, fix a bit, but if you are on the mud, you could dynamite it and break all the barriers 

Edited Wednesday at 12:20 AM by Breakingthewall

[Never_give_up]

@Breakingthewall Thank you for the reply! I am feeling much better cause of all these answers that are positive and gave me direction and told me I can change my life. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

3 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

And if you have a disease that destroys your body little by little?

Well, I guess you'd have to go through it like a mission. It's part of our path here, and we have to drink the glass to the end. That's what my intuition tells me now, but maybe in some specific case suicide would appear as what I have to do

Ah yes, sorry for the confusion. If you perused the dialogue that followed between Miguel1& I, I did backtrack. I was hasty. Terminal health cases where quality of life is non-existent are a good example of a case for suicide.

I sensed the desire for the OP to harm themselves, so I was mainly acting out in an attempt to protect themselves from a terrible mistake 

[Joshe]

The truth that suicide can be the best option is best left unsaid in public forums. It’s weird how this is like the 5th thread I’ve seen around here where this obvious truth is being talked about like it’s some deep insight. Flexing how much cold truth you know around people toying with suicide is immature and dangerous.

Edited Wednesday at 02:07 AM by Joshe

[Joshe]

“Suicide should never be an option” person A says to person B. 

Enter person C: “ well, actually, you’re wrong. Suicide is an option if the pros outweigh the cons”. 

WTF?? 
 

 

[Breakingthewall]

8 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Ah yes, sorry for the confusion. If you perused the dialogue that followed between Miguel1& I, I did backtrack. I was hasty. Terminal health cases where quality of life is non-existent are a good example of a case for suicide.

I sensed the desire for the OP to harm themselves, so I was mainly acting out in an attempt to protect themselves from a terrible mistake 

Even in that case I doubt. If what brings this life is extreme suffering maybe it's a good idea going through it. I guess that depends of the intuition in that moment