Reincarnation Question

[Rezo gelenidze]

Hello guys , hope you all do well , 

I personally have failed in life , I’m 24 years old , I work from 15 years old selling and re selling electronics etc so I have my own money , my dream was always to be someone and something special in this life and make my parents proud , but instead I feel like a trash , my mom is a Jehovah’s Witness and she will not accept me unless I join her religion and my father left us when I was 10 years old and I don’t have good communication with him , I never achieved something great in my life ( being a professional football player , ufc fighter , singer or something like that ) I was busy surviving and feeding myself and my little sister , but I can’t sleep at night , I see lost potential in me that I never really achieved , what will happen if I suicide ? Will I be re born with a different form ? Will I be re born as a tree or I will be the one who will chose what my next chapter will be ? I don’t ever want to be born as the person I am now , life is suffering only , I prefer to never ever live again than live the life I have lived , sorry for the bad aura of the paragraph .

[Hojo]

If you have no idea what you are doing how do you know you are failing?

[Rezo gelenidze]

1 minute ago, Hojo said:

If you have no idea what you are doing how do you know you are failing?

It’s obvious , im like the 90% of the people , I work 10-12 hours a day , and all the money goes to bills , I tried opening my own business and failed miserably , I’m 24 and I feel like a 90 year old man who is ready to die 

[Hojo]

@Rezo gelenidzeYou could be acing the test and not know it. If you feel like you have 0 energy it could be the emptying of your cup. When you come close to the end you will have 0 energy. All metaphysical weight can be lifted but not if you do something irrational you will be stuck in your state.

Think of the buddha story he was walking a long time and fell in the water and was holding onto a branch and was like im just going to let go and kill myself. But he didnt he climbed up, he has to keep trudging and then after a little while he went and sit under the tree.

[Aaron p]

@Rezo gelenidze @Rezo gelenidze

Just remember guys, financial success is only one very tiny form of success there are many many other types and forms of success. 

You could be successful with your relationship with a person or perhaps you could have success in being a good person morally, you could be successful at talking to a girl regardless of whether it leads to a date or you could be successful at meditating a few times. 

So just be gentle with yourselves, because ultimately it's very rare and highly unlikely that you guys have not been successful in some respect. If you have a flavor for Leo's content that points to a deep form of psychological evolution which is extremely rare and is a sign of major mental success already. 

Truth be told, every day you wake up and make it to bed after is successful. You have successfully existed. It can actually be quite difficult to be so powerful that all you need to do to succeed is exist....to just "be." Think about why God calls himself "I am." If you can get to the point where you realize that all you have to do to succeed is exist, you can recognize that this is basically all god does. God's only real purpose is to exist and love itself... Literally. My short answer is that failure doesn't actually exist.

But like don't do suicide, like you could enjoy life. Just be patient with yourself ❤️ if it feels right you could continue coming back to the forum here and pursue spirituality more deeply. I find this to be one of the most powerful soothing agents for psychologic pain. There are also a lot of nice people here who could be your friends myself included

[Natasha Tori Maru]

6 hours ago, Rezo gelenidze said:

Hello guys , hope you all do well , 

I personally have failed in life , I’m 24 years old , I work from 15 years old selling and re selling electronics etc so I have my own money , my dream was always to be someone and something special in this life and make my parents proud , but instead I feel like a trash , my mom is a Jehovah’s Witness and she will not accept me unless I join her religion and my father left us when I was 10 years old and I don’t have good communication with him , I never achieved something great in my life ( being a professional football player , ufc fighter , singer or something like that ) I was busy surviving and feeding myself and my little sister , but I can’t sleep at night , I see lost potential in me that I never really achieved , what will happen if I suicide ? Will I be re born with a different form ? Will I be re born as a tree or I will be the one who will chose what my next chapter will be ? I don’t ever want to be born as the person I am now , life is suffering only , I prefer to never ever live again than live the life I have lived , sorry for the bad aura of the paragraph .

Do not consider suicide an option.

Firstly, if you are thinking about this - please seek professional help.

Secondly - do you really want to commit such an act to your body, or do you just want this current phase of your existence to end?

Most of my friends who went through suicidal ideation didn't really want to die, they wanted to end their current circumstances.

24 years old is so young.... please know, your existence, just existing... is valid. You don't actually have to do anything at all in life, you are worthy and allowed to just be. That is so OK. We are all children in different stages of an aged body... free to play and do whatever we want. Free to love and be loved. You may not have received this message that you are valid and OK to just exist, free of the cycle of needing to pretzel yourself into something for someone else. But that is what you should have been shown when growing up.

The only reason I say the above is because you seem very caught up in needing to be useful. Successful... needing to be anything other than the bright, vibrant & beautiful being that you ARE. Just be that, because its worthy.

You have time to make small changes - every small change and hurdle you overcome prepares you for the next one.

But truly I want you to reach out and seek help <3

[Rezo gelenidze]

@Natasha Tori Maru thanks for your reply , it means a lot , I will grind harder I have no more option . 

[Rezo gelenidze]

@Aaron p  thanks for those important points , really this forum has given me a lot of power . 

[Someone here]

12 hours ago, Rezo gelenidze said:

Hello guys , hope you all do well , 

I personally have failed in life , I’m 24 years old , I work from 15 years old selling and re selling electronics etc so I have my own money , my dream was always to be someone and something special in this life and make my parents proud , but instead I feel like a trash , my mom is a Jehovah’s Witness and she will not accept me unless I join her religion and my father left us when I was 10 years old and I don’t have good communication with him , I never achieved something great in my life ( being a professional football player , ufc fighter , singer or something like that ) I was busy surviving and feeding myself and my little sister , but I can’t sleep at night , I see lost potential in me that I never really achieved , what will happen if I suicide ? Will I be re born with a different form ? Will I be re born as a tree or I will be the one who will chose what my next chapter will be ? I don’t ever want to be born as the person I am now , life is suffering only , I prefer to never ever live again than live the life I have lived , sorry for the bad aura of the paragraph .

Hi man. Sorry you are feeling this way .I'm gonna give you a blunt answer. Because you need to hear it . Kinda tough love .

Forget about suicide completely.  You have no idea what you are getting yourself into. Death is not something you flirt with . I would say so what if you are even below average class and not living a wealthy luxurious lifestyle?  The majority of people on this planet are not rich nor successful. They just work in a job that earns them enough to eat and pay the bills and that's it .

Another point is you still can turn your life 180 degrees. But this requires work.if you start from a low level in a video game like GTA then you gotta build your life by working in a shitty tiresome job .then save money .then once you you've saved enough money you can start a business or invest in the stock market . I suggest you post this thread in the career's section .there are lots of people here who can guide you out of this funk financially. 

Much love 🙏. 

Edited Thursday at 11:38 AM by Someone here

[Breakingthewall]

@Rezo gelenidze  

It's most likely that the structure of existence that we are has continuity in other dimensions, or that it coexists in many or perhaps infinite dimensions, in a process that we can hardly intuit.

So, in my opinion, the only thing to do is to always give the best of yourself, whether little or much, it doesn't matter, if it's all it's always a lot, if it's just a bit it's always small. There's no need to compare with external ideals, just give your all. It's better to give your all as a slave worker than being a narcissistic winner who don't give anything and take everything.

Life is in great part fight, then fight and forget narcissistic ideals that our society put into our minds. We are not here to take, but to give, and we can enjoy a lot that process, that include suffering in abundance. Everything that you take is nothing, empty hedonistic illusion. Everything that you give remains, it's solid, real. 

Edited Thursday at 01:13 PM by Breakingthewall

[Yeah Yeah]

From my research I have come to prepare myself suicide or not that depending on your state of vibrational frequency ... Not thoughts or emotion like core belief of being like maybe you believe for example in a Hell while your thoughts or emotions wish for a heaven ... The state of clarity you die with and those core beliefs will mirror your energy into an echo chamber here after. So if you have shame or you believe you deserve to punished in eternal torment then that is what carries over, and in the astral realms what you intend is what you get and you create your own reality ... But even in the hell realms your vibration will be a million-fold of what you fear here on earth, you may hear screaming and gnashing of teeth, blackness blacker than black, deformed entities that lead you away with malicious manipulation and tell you horrid things or rip you apart, or take you to realms more real than this life, or into torturous environments ... All millionfold more than anything you have experienced here ... Like those hell realms make the worst of life you've endured here on earth seem a park picnic in comparison, like your pure hate for someone in this life is more like love than the hate those entities feel for you in a realm like that ... But ... Until you crack open and start telling yourself you deserve love and create love and reach for divine miraculous intervention then the realm shifts instantly to a white light with angelic avatars or christ like entities ... It's messed up I know because before coming across this information I finally had a method I wanted to lean to since all my research for methods are essentially off limits like pure helium is hard to obtain, or pills don't have the the stuff in them like they used to overdose on and it's really hard to these days to find something effective but ... When I did get close to a method finally then a new thread appeared of hell realm nde experiences not just the ones of unconditional love - the unconditional love ones make up for like 95 percent of deaths while the hell ones are rare but do happen at like maybe 5 percent - I personally hoped for Universalism as a belief I've finally found a word for but I think in the ultimate sense might be so but also that if say Leo is correct and everything is my own solipsistic bubble then maybe the whole nde reports are also just figments of my own dream and the end is truly unknown 

Edited Friday at 03:56 AM by Yeah Yeah

[Natasha Tori Maru]

20 hours ago, Rezo gelenidze said:

@Natasha Tori Maru thanks for your reply , it means a lot , I will grind harder I have no more option . 

I'm in the same boat - wading through shit like molasses grinding away.

It doesn't always get easier, it certainly can - but I can tell you - you get stronger.

<3

*edited for clarity*

Edited Friday at 08:25 AM by Natasha Tori Maru

[Leo Gura]

@Rezo gelenidze You're still so young at 24. You have a lot of time left to make yourself successful. Many people find success late in life.

You don't need to be some football star to have a fully satisfying life.

Don't give up so soon. Try to find creative ways to make your life work. Not just grinding but do things more intelligently. You can still make your life much better.

You can't trust what anyone tells you about reincarnation because that's just belief and hearsay. Don't throw away your life based on the spiritual speculations of some confident fool. You can't assume that killing yourself will lead to something better.

Edited Friday at 06:59 AM by Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

53 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

It doesn't get easier -

Don't tell him that.

Of course life can get easier if it is lived strategically and wealth is built up.

Many people grow their way out of poverty and into wealth, and an easier life. You don't always have to grind.

Edited Friday at 06:46 AM by Leo Gura

[gengar]

2 hours ago, Yeah Yeah said:

From my research I have come to prepare myself suicide or not that depending on your state of vibrational frequency ... Not thoughts or emotion like core belief of being like maybe you believe for example in a Hell while your thoughts or emotions wish for a heaven ... The state of clarity you die with and those core beliefs will mirror your energy into an echo chamber here after. So if you have shame or you believe you deserve to punished in eternal torment then that is what carries over, and in the astral realms what you intend is what you get and you create your own reality ... But even in the hell realms your vibration will be a million-fold of what you fear here on earth, you may hear screaming and gnashing of teeth, blackness blacker than black, deformed entities that lead you away with malicious manipulation and tell you horrid things or rip you apart, or take you to realms more real than this life, or into torturous environments ... All millionfold more than anything you have experienced here ... Like those hell realms make the worst of life you've endured here on earth seem a park picnic in comparison, like your pure hate for someone in this life is more like love than the hate those entities feel for you in a realm like that ... But ... Until you crack open and start telling yourself you deserve love and create love and reach for divine miraculous intervention then the realm shifts instantly to a white light with angelic avatars or christ like entities ... It's messed up I know because before coming across this information I finally had a method I wanted to lean to since all my research for methods are essentially off limits like pure helium is hard to obtain, or pills don't have the the stuff in them like they used to overdose on and it's really hard to these days to find something effective but ... When I did get close to a method finally then a new thread appeared of hell realm nde experiences not just the ones of unconditional love - the unconditional love ones make up for like 95 percent of deaths while the hell ones are rare but do happen at like maybe 5 percent - I personally hoped for Universalism as a belief I've finally found a word for but I think in the ultimate sense might be so but also that if say Leo is correct and everything is my own solipsistic bubble then maybe the whole nde reports are also just figments of my own dream and the end is truly unknown 

Bro are you alright? What are you talking about here?

[gengar]

On 5/29/2025 at 1:27 AM, Rezo gelenidze said:

Hello guys , hope you all do well , 

I personally have failed in life , I’m 24 years old , I work from 15 years old selling and re selling electronics etc so I have my own money , my dream was always to be someone and something special in this life and make my parents proud , but instead I feel like a trash , my mom is a Jehovah’s Witness and she will not accept me unless I join her religion and my father left us when I was 10 years old and I don’t have good communication with him , I never achieved something great in my life ( being a professional football player , ufc fighter , singer or something like that ) I was busy surviving and feeding myself and my little sister , but I can’t sleep at night , I see lost potential in me that I never really achieved , what will happen if I suicide ? Will I be re born with a different form ? Will I be re born as a tree or I will be the one who will chose what my next chapter will be ? I don’t ever want to be born as the person I am now , life is suffering only , I prefer to never ever live again than live the life I have lived , sorry for the bad aura of the paragraph .

I've been there. You need a spiritual reason not to commit suicide in my opinion. Only those reasons that your highest self holds on to can make you live through the greatest pain.

Study some Buddhist and Sufi stuff. Their teachings recognize the deep poverty and pain of life and revolve a lot of their teachings around it. Leo's teachings are more about finding pure truth on one hand, and actualizing your potential / life purpose on the other hand. It doesn't really teach you how to go through shit like this. I also recommend you do some trauma healing by doing Teal Swan practices.

This audio got me through it many times:
 

And you are still young, you can still actualize success and your life purpose. But devise a strategy of life with failure in mind.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Don't tell him that.

Of course life can get easier if it is lived strategically and wealth is built up.

Many people grow their way out of poverty and into wealth, and an easier life. You don't always have to grind.

To be clear - I did mean the challenge that is life in general. As a point of unity, so we feel less alone in overcoming challenges. Also to empower as I really believe in humans

But I can see how it can be misread. Edited the post for clarity.

And your points are correct.

@Rezo gelenidze - I hope you don't take what I wrote to imply hopelessness, as life does change and can get easier. 

Edited Friday at 08:26 AM by Natasha Tori Maru

[krazzer]

@Rezo gelenidze Don't commit suicide by killing your body. Commit suicide by killing your ego. Life will continue without an ego. Thoughts like "I want to be special", "I am not good enough" will vanish. Because the "I" that wants those things will vanish. Remove your ego and live a live in peace, bliss, calmness, regardless of your circumstances.

Edited Friday at 08:16 AM by krazzer

[Rezo gelenidze]

Thanx everyone for your your replies , feels like a family inside here ❤️