Is this the evolution of polyamory? Aubrey Marcus podcast)

[Schizophonia]

The number of ads at the end lol.

[Tenebroso]

8 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

As I got further in, I notice the women's responses - it almost seems like this process destroyed their boundaries. As if giving at the expense of yourself and your needs was the honest and most honorable thing to do? A form of self betrayal. To pretzel yourself into what someone else needs. 

It appears this also caused them to trauma bond. They are taking pride in the trauma they have been through. As if being able to endure that is a signal of strength. I see so many brilliant women truly think enduring a horrible relationship or abuse, is a signal of strength. They stay in terrible abusive situations and wear it like a badge of honour

Aubreys face is like... dupers delight? 

Women's standards and boundaries go out of the window for attractive, high status men. These men live in a different world, they can demand anything and the women will accept it because if she doesn't there are other women waiting to take her place. 

[Lyubov]

Thing is though unchecked male desire can take its tole on having a loving partnership. It can be a difficult balance to strike. Male mating strategy is to mate with as many women as possible and I believe men are much better suited for this and it’s much more natural for a man to do this than a woman, but it will eventually come at the expense of a stable union between the two. Hence why it’s best to keep the mistress on the down low and just be so good at being a man your wife won’t leave you. Issue is this is dishonest and mentally will take its tole. I don’t recommend it. I think in the end we need to make peace with monogamy if we want a woman to grow old with. 

Edited May 29 by Lyubov

[Eskilon]

1 hour ago, Lyubov said:

Male mating strategy is to mate with as many women as possible

Based on what you say this? 

[Xonas Pitfall]

6 hours ago, Tenebroso said:

Women's standards and boundaries go out of the window for attractive, high status men. These men live in a different world, they can demand anything and the women will accept it because if she doesn't there are other women waiting to take her place. 

The same dynamic applies on the other side. There's not much difference between a woman doing OnlyFans and asking countless men for money, and a woman who is actively sugar-daddy hunting, draining a man’s resources because she knows there are always more men willing to do the same. These women, too, live in a different world.

Extremely attractive people, in general, live in different worlds. They see firsthand how quickly others compromise, how much people are willing to give up their boundaries, and how drastically behavior changes in their presence.

Still, none of this justifies anyone exploiting others. What bothers me is how sometimes the “high value man” archetype is often tolerated or even respected, while an attractive "sugar-baby" woman doing something similar is judged more harshly. But when you strip away the surface, it’s the same thing.

If you abuse your partner’s love or specifically seek out partners you view as “lower” than you just to manipulate them or gain access to more affection, control, money, or options, you are trash. This applies to any gender. Don't start by claiming you're monogamous, pouring on love, acting sweet, saying you'll cherish and commit to them, making it seem like you’re on the same page with a "mutual" agreement. Then, once they're emotionally attached, drop the polyamory proposal as if it was always part of the plan. If you want polyamory, find a partner who also wants polyamory at the very start. Don’t manipulate someone into reluctantly agreeing just so they don’t lose you. That’s not love, that’s selfishness disguised as empowerment. But people rarely stop to think about this, because the ego boost feels too good to question 

[BlessedLion]

16 hours ago, Emerald said:

He's really creating a lot of magical thinking narratives and religious narratives to justify his own actions to himself... and then pulling others into the narratives that he's woven to deceive himself

Exactly. It’s one thing to be delusional but it’s another to gaslight and drag everyone else into it. 
 

Yeah everything you said rings true. 
 

I also really like these guys take 

 

 

[BlessedLion]

15 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

As if giving at the expense of yourself and your needs was the honest and most honorable thing to do?

For sure. This is a common issue I’ve seen in the New Age romantic arena. So many friends of mine (men and women) have this idea that they are “healing their jealous parts” “working through their childhood wounds” or “healing their trauma” 

 

But in reality their body and psyche is just naturally saying “hey, I deserve I committed and healthy partnership. I don’t like that (name) is sleeping with other people” 

 

Yet they think sitting with that pain and torture is somehow valiant and spiritual. 
 

No wonder she can’t have kids, her body is in constant stress

[BlessedLion]

10 hours ago, RendHeaven said:

He reeks.

Right on.

I'm generally pro multiple-partners. Just please don't be a new age narcissist about it. Admit you want pussy and move on. 

Also don't emotionally commit to two women and then place them in the same room to compete for your fractured attention. That's so violating.

Many women are willing to sexually share their man (if this frame is set early) but NOT emotionally. It's a matter of primal safety. This distinction seems lost on Aubrey.

This.
 

He’s definitely mistreating them and Vylana the worst, he’s abusing her- straight up. Poor girl just wants one committed man 

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, BlessedLion said:

No wonder she can’t have kids, her body is in constant stress

Very New Age of you to conclude that that is why she can't have kids.

[BlessedLion]

10 minutes ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

plan. If you want polyamory, find a partner who also wants polyamory at the very start. Don’t manipulate someone into reluctantly agreeing just so they don’t lose you. That’s not love, that’s selfishness disguised as empowerment. But people rarely stop to think about this, because the ego boost feels too good to question 

100 percent. The problem I have with Aubrey is he promised to Vylana a monogamous marriage. Yet, this “just came out of the blue, totally unplanned” 

 

Yeah dude, it’s called getting horny. 
 

So now this poor woman has sacrificed her body mind and soul to this man who just pulled the rug out from under her and basically she either submits to it or leaves and starts over from scratch. So viola, you have massive self deception here on her end to make sense of it all. 
 

He scammed her big time, and this little “pure soul” they found? Yeah right, she knows exactly what she is doing she can barely look at Vylana. 

I hope she gets out of this okay  

 

[BlessedLion]

“Spirit told me it’s my authentic desire to go to the Red Light District for 3 weeks and do copious amounts of coke with hookers” 

 

-Aubrey Marcus 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Very New Age of you to conclude that that is why she can't have kids.

While I cannot speak of her specific case - excessive stress is well known to shut down women's reproductive systems.

If the stress is chronic it appears as 'Chronic Anovulation'

 

[Leo Gura]

17 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

While I cannot speak of her specific case - excessive stress is well known to shut down women's reproductive systems.

If the stress is chronic it appears as 'Chronic Anovulation'

Then how are African women having 10 children while living homeless in a warzone?

Edited May 30 by Leo Gura

[Eskilon]

1 hour ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

 If you want polyamory, find a partner who also wants polyamory at the very start

Not to say that what the guy on the video is doing is right or anything, but I want to bring a scenario here to deepen our understanding.

Say he went into this relationship monogamous, full on just wanting one partner and all that. But then, as he discovered more about himself and what intimacy means he came to the conclusion that monogamy is not really his thing. So then he goes and talk to his wife about it, and after much thought she agrees to be poly with him.

In the scenario above, was he manipulative in your perspective? Did he discovering what he actually wants mid relationship counts as being morally and ethically wrong? I just want to understand your view on this since you do make insightful posts 

Edited May 30 by Eskilon

[Natasha Tori Maru]

37 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Then how are African women having 10 children while living homeless in a warzone?

The possibility exists their bodies and minds are more resilient, as each person experiences external stress differently.

For example, I can deal with a large amount of stress. I have always had this capacity. I can juggle multiple moving systems and tasks and remain calm.

My sister however, when she has attempted to stand in for me at work, or take on a task, cannot function. 

She will experience panic attacks, pass out. Hyperventilate etc. This is an acute example, of course.

Truly, bodies are just very strange and we are all very different.

This is why I also added I cannot speak for the ladies individual physiology/psychology.

[Leo Gura]

Well, I got around to watching most of the video.

You guys are being way too critical and cynical.

What they are doing feels authentic to them. Whether is succeeds or not, they will all grow from it and it's better than what most couples do.

I see no problem here.

They are just doing conscious polyamory. It's actually a good demo of conscious relationship.

They are doing conscious relationship in a triad.

Edited May 30 by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

I read it totally different! But I didn't listen to the words as much as surgically dissected body language, tone and expression. As I am want to do...

But that is because I don't trust peoples words as much as emotion, action and expression.

[Leo Gura]

15 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I read it totally different! But I didn't listen to the words as much as surgically dissected body language, tone and expression. As I am want to do...

But that is because I don't trust peoples words as much as emotion, action and expression.

As if I only register words.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

As if I only register words.

Shit, how arrogant of me - I do graciously apologise for that 🙏

I think I was getting at the fact it is a weakness of mine to not listen to words when I am presented with body language to read.

But no excuse for me being a shithead

[Leo Gura]

I found their whole vibe authentic and very conscious.

How they behave off screen is anyone's guess, but on screen they are doing great.

I don't see any need to criticize them.

Edited May 30 by Leo Gura