New Video: 8 Unique & Original Proofs Of God

[ExploringReality]

@Leo Gura

Here's an image that came to my mind hearing your proof of God using the argument of numerical Infinity. Look at this shit. Even if a mathematician or a scientist that doesn't understand God, understands a sub aspect of God, a sub Infinity within actual Infinity, like you pointed out the image of an ant crawling on an elephant's ass. The scientist is the ant and they're crawling through a forest of hairs, and they come upon one sub infinity or another and think that they grasp what God is, but they've only grasped a sub Infinity. 

Alright now imagine this. Let's say in this analogy that the ant or the scientist or the mathematician grasps that all these sub infinities are part of a holistic holarchical infinity, which would be the entire elephant in this analogy, but take it a step further. The entire elephant which represents actual Infinity is actually just a sub Infinity within an even greater Infinity. Let's say metaphorically you grasp all of infinity, that is still a small aspect of actual Infinity. And the whole mind fuck of this is, is that you are absolute Infinity, absolute God looking in on itself, trying to measure itself. But your ass is infinitely deep. Ta da. 😆 

Edited May 19 by ExploringReality

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, ExploringReality said:

The entire elephant which represents actual Infinity is actually just a sub Infinity within an even greater Infinity.

Yes. That's actually happened to me.

I've had Awakenings where I realized all of Infinity, but then as I exhausted that, a whole new level of Infinity opened up.

Basically, you can imagine higher orders of Infinity. And I have. So never stop at just the first order. Keep looking for higher dimensions of it. There's a lot more to Infinity than it first seems.

Which is why I often say: But there's more

Edited May 20 by Leo Gura

[Inliytened1]

On 5/18/2025 at 11:01 AM, Thought Art said:

@Inliytened1 Yeah, that's where the question of why this particular configuration of "physical Laws" and human existence comes in. Life or existence could have been literally anything and yet here we are with this lot.

It had to be something..didn't it?  What if it was another way..wouldn't you be asking the same question?  You can't escape the existence of something.

[Inliytened1]

On 5/18/2025 at 0:14 PM, Oppositionless said:

Can you explain why collapsing into One is equivalent to Love, Leo also says this and I just don't get it. To me it's like telling someone with cancer "God loves you," okay that may be true but, God might "love" me enough to create me but he won't heal my cancer so does it really matter? Why call it love ?

Can't really explain it verbally..needs awakening.

[ExploringReality]

@Leo Gura

Ohh!!! My!!! Fucking!!! Goddddd!!!! It's tremendous. It's Infinite!!!! This is true Spirituality. My Goodness. What is this!!!! Why!!!?????  OMG!!!!!!!! It's breath taking. It's astonishing!!! Fuck a dmt elf, look at this!!! Look at this!!!!!!!!!!! Now look at this!!!!! 

Edited May 20 by ExploringReality

[Natasha Tori Maru]

22 minutes ago, ExploringReality said:

@Leo Gura

Ohh!!! My!!! Fucking!!! Goddddd!!!! It's tremendous. It's Infinite!!!! This is true Spirituality. My Goodness. What is this!!!! Why!!!?????  OMG!!!!!!!! It's breath taking. It's astonishing!!! Fuck a dmt elf, look at this!!! Look at this!!!!!!!!!!! Now look at this!!!!! 

One of the big fundamentals of maths is that between any two distinct numbers, there are infinitely many real numbers

In fact - this fundamental is used for many proofs in pure mathematics.

Inside the number one are infinity of fractions : 0, 0.1, 0.12, 0.13, ...0.N, where N can go to infinity.

So from zero to one, you can fraction it into infinity and never reach one.

Like a little infinity within the greater infinity of all whole distinct numbers. Like your elephant

Note: I haven't done mathematical proofs for over 10 years so this may be a little rusty, but the concept is true

[yetineti]

@Leo Gura But Leo!

[Thought Art]

@ExploringReality no post while tripping 

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura I have experienced infinity. The Holy Grail. 
 

My ego just cling an and whines sometimes. But I’m ironing it out into a mature mind. 

[ExploringReality]

@Natasha Tori Maru yeah that's amazing.

It's fascinating and beautiful to think that. And an awakening to infinity even in numbers like you mentioned, a direct hit of that existential nature or fact within your very being is absolutely mind blowing.

[Bjorn K Holmstrom]

To expand on my previous post in this thread:
I appreciate the effort going into the video immensely, and, coming from a perspective of mystical experiences of my own, plus having deeply pondered the ramifications of logic and duality vs non-duality, I largely agree with Leo's notions of God, though I am skeptic to the claim of idealism, my intuition tells me that while idealism can be a perspective that is true, it is still a perspective subject to duality vs materialism, and the actual truth might encompass both and beyond.

[kbone]

@Bjorn K Holmstrom

In some ways, I concur. Idealism is a perspective, or maybe just a way of talking about things of this nature. In communication, words are like arrows; once shared, they’re liable to hit anything, hehe. They often only make real sense to the mind trying to express what Truth is like, taking us back to the Taoist maxim, “The Tao that can be spoken is not the true Tao” and other such expressions. The actual Truth is prior to mind’s rendition (i.e., perspective) of IT. This acknowledgement gives insight into The Flower Sermon. Maybe this touches on the ‘skepticism to the claim of idealism’ you mentioned. I'm curious to hear what you think.

Once Truth/God/Awareness/’whatever you wanna call it’ has been realized, the mind is seen for what it is, and it has been settled it into its ‘secondary role’, there’s greater space for gnossis and wisdom to emerge as a flow.  Mind’s fear of its own corruptive capacities for ignorance subsides causing less and less trouble (i.e., paradoxes, existential confusion, suffering, etc). When fully conscious, Truth consistently informs the mind of its own limitations as a bifurcator, useful for distinguishing/comparing/coordinating things, ideas, etc “in the world”. It can be a wonderful tool in that regard. The mind gets into trouble with its musings and imaginings when it accepts (as truth) that it can have agency beyond its own limited capacities, at which point it becomes a terrible master.

[Leo Gura]

Idealism is not a perspective.

Only Mind exists. You cannot weasel your way around this with human ideas.

Edited May 20 by Leo Gura

[kbone]

@Leo Gura

Sure, you're just using your word of choice. No biggie... call it whatcha want to.

[Leo Gura]

Consciousness is consciousness. There's no other word for it.

You guys are making this more difficult and confusing than it is.

The only thing you know is consciousness. So stop making up other shit. Stop torturing yourself with nonsense. Just stop it.

Edited May 20 by Leo Gura

[kbone]

No other word for what?

What is pointed to is trans-rationally simple, and not confusing at all. What typically makes it difficult or confusing is that most will use their minds to search for it.

That's why a term like 'idealism' can be misconstrued in convos, depending on interlocutors' understanding of the terminology.

[Someone here]

@kbone I think most people here understand this . When Leo says tho "the only thing you know is consciousness " he obviously realise that there is a tree over here then there is a creepy-faced moon in the night sky then there is a dog shitting on grass here etc..

Also by  his framing the only thing you know is consciousness. But the you and the knowing are also consciousness and the denial of consciousness is consciousness since consciousness if everything that goes on .

[Leo Gura]

14 minutes ago, kbone said:

That's why a term like 'idealism' can be misconstrued in convos

There's nothing unclear or confusing about that term. It's as good as a term gets.

If people are confused it's because they want to complicate things because they are in denial. It serves them to constantly muddy the waters and act unsure. That's a game the ego-mind loves to play. Our goal in this work is to cut through such games so that Truth, clarity, and certainty can be reached.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idealism

Edited May 20 by Leo Gura

[ExploringReality]

@Leo Gura

Amen to that. Let them muddy the waters while we observe, clearing the fog and seeing with clarity.

[kbone]

@Leo Gura

I understand the term and what it points to. It's not complicated at all once it's realized.

But sure, mind complicates things and mind denies things, often without even knowing it's doing so.