New Video: 8 Unique & Original Proofs Of God

[Leo Gura]

10 hours ago, OBEler said:

@Leo Gura you said in the video that it's a silly question, asking why cannot God give you 1 million dollars. Your answer was because you would go insane if you suddenly get one million dollar and next time it is gone so you loose your sanity.

I didn't mean it like that.

Of course God could give you a million dollars without you losing your sanity. The point was that reality requires consistency. If God only gave you a million dollars by some magic means, that would violate the consistency of reality and it wouldn't be fair to everyone else. Why should God serve you at everyone else's expense? This is an evil thing to ask for.

And yes, a million dollars given to you by magic, is theft from everyone else. That's like God counterfeiting a million dollars. You are literally asking God to be a criminal on your behalf. Think of how insane that request is.

You cannot be given a million dollars out of thin air without it being theft from the rest of society. Dollars only have value relative to their supply.

It's like asking, why doesn't Nintendo give every Mario player a million coins? They certainly could. But it would break the game. Games require constraints. I've explained this elsewhere and you should be smart enough to understand this yourself without me having to tell you.

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So the question remains. Why can't God give me 1 million dollars? My answer would be because God wants to explore a human life in very different ways and because of that not everyone should win the lottery in their dream. That would be a more plausible answer to me.

The ultimate reason God cannot give you a million dollars is because God's Creation is already perfect. It cannot be improved upon. It's your limited finite mind that thinks that getting a million dollars would make the Universe better. But it wouldn't. It would make the Universe worse. So the answer to this question is that you don't have enough intelligence to see that any change you wish God to make to suit you is actually worse for the totality of the Universe.

1 hour ago, Thought Art said:

@OBEler Yes, Leo offers a lot of bad question begging examples I think.

Why isn’t reality any other way that it is in the finite realm? I don’t think Leo has answered it.

I can't answer all questions in one video. I've answered this question already in other videos. This video was not about explaining why God doesn't suit your ego.

Reality isn't any other way because reality is Absolute Perfection. It is literally impossible to improve reality. Any improvement you can imagine would make it worse. But you need Intelligence to see it. If you're thinking with your ego then it won't make sense.

There is only ONE Absolute Perfection. This is it.

Edited May 16 by Leo Gura

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura I’ve had awakenings to this perfection. I still, though, have questions. I don’t really know what else to say to you right now. 

 
“It’s just how it is, and it’s perfect” is sorta, true. It’s not overly satisfying in my state at this moment. 
 

I recall you saying these things in previous videos. But, part of me still thinks… you don’t really know why I am me and why you are you. 
 

If God is perfect and infinite, any change to it on a finite level still seems question begging that it would “ruin the perfection”. This thing has an infinite capacity for perfection so… seems kinda a lazy argument that some finite change would make it not perfect. 

Edited May 16 by Thought Art

[Thought Art]

If God for some reason did or did not do X… it would be perfect. It just seems arbitrary. The implications of Solipsism, birth and death make it very question begging as well. 

[Leo Gura]

33 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

If God is perfect and infinite, any change to it on a finite level still seems question begging that it would “ruin the perfection”. This thing has an infinite capacity for perfection so… seems kinda a lazy argument that some finite change would make it not perfect. 

You are asking questions that are so fundamental that question-begging becomes the only way. Because you're asking about an Absolute. An Absolute is true under all conditions. You are seeking some kind relative answer to an Absolute, which is an error in questioning.

Absolute Perfection is not an argument, it's just what is.

What you want is Heaven, where all your dreams are fulfilled without limit. You can have that but you'd need to die. To be alive means to not have Heaven. The only reason you are alive is because you are too scared to die. So here you are.

Your own mind is contradicting itself. On the one hand you want all your wishes fulfilled without limit -- which is Absolute Infinity -- on the other hand you do not wish to surrender your human life. And then you sit then wondering about lazy arguments, lost in your own egoic contradictions.

You are too terrified of Infinity to actually have it. That's why you are so limited. You talk about love and spirituality and truth, but you will not actually take Infinite Love if it was given to you.

Edited May 16 by Leo Gura

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura You say true things here. 
 

Well, we should contemplate relative and absolute things as they pertain to reality. 
 

I mean, I’ve experienced this infinity and this Heaven. Yes, it is amazing but also paradoxical and a little disturbing. 
 

I mean, can’t someone wonder why some aspect of my human existence isn’t different? Without wanting to go all the way to heaven and infinity and all that? It’s a useless question I know. 
 

Some finite way reality is when death, forgetting, restarting, etc seem to be baked in is also just questing begging. 
 

I am not even talking about your argument I am just openly wondering on the Design of this thing.
 

“Being Alive (or in some finite form) means to not have heaven.” If you equate heaven with infinity and death. Yes, that is heaven.

I can experience joy, beauty and creativity in human form, and nature and connection which is heaven like. So, no total infinity death is needed 

But, why is reality some finite way and not some other finite way? If death is always just there… seems silly. But, my experience is only 29 years as a human and I don’t know what else exists in my Goldy bosom. 

In theory, there are “other” who has what they need and want. They are not dead and in heaven, yet Gods will allows this. Assuming, one didn’t have what they want. 
 

- I am not exactly sure how to think about this so. Forgive my rambling.

I would like to have more leverage on my reality. You can do that as a human. But, you gotta do it yourself. You can cultivate a mind, heart, life, consciousness as a human which is divine and beautiful compared to the slop of 99% of humans. But, got doesn’t just give it to you. 

Edited May 16 by Thought Art

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura When u say finite level i am referring to human existence. Not, the Meta super intelligent God and its logic and mechanics. Just, human life. I don’t know why I am writing this song on this hill, contemplating the nature of God and reality. Building a Qigong and music following which is touching more people each day. But, I am here. 
 

I still have a lot more to learn and do. It’s useless to complain about God. Better to be a creator. 

Edited May 16 by Thought Art

[Leo Gura]

33 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

can’t someone wonder why some aspect of my human existence isn’t different?

The Universe works based on physical laws. God is not violating physical laws to suit your ego. So what you're wondering is why are the physical laws as they are and not otherwise? The answer will be something like: because that's how they need to be in order for things to work.

God doesn't personally muck around with his Creation. God sets up the structure and lets it unfold organically. Humans have this silly notion that God should personally muck around to micro-manage reality. But that would mean God was an idiot for creating a flawed reality that needed his micromanagement.

Think about it, if you're going to create any system, would you create a system that requires constant micro-management from you or it falls apart? Or would you create a system that just works perfectly without any further intervention from you?

The choice is obvious.

And of course every creature inside that system will wish that the system's design was skewed more to favor him. Like every player in a soccer game would wish the referee always ruled in favor of him. But that would be a corrupt referee and a corrupt game.

Edited May 16 by Leo Gura

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura what you is Kinda like I said before

Yet, there is still question begging regarding the implications of solipsism, consciousness, things like suffering and error, and my ability to complain about the universe. The truth that I am God and I can wonder about these things at all. Given these implications there is no divine sin for me getting what I want. It’s, again arbitrary. 
 

God designed it this way, for whatever reason. Good for God I guess?

Again, this is just a human dream, physical laws, etc. God is theory could dream any dream. So, arbitrary. 
 

So, why physical laws if God can imagine any design it wants? You would just say infinite intelligence, perfection, bla bla. Okay, that’s just like saying it is what it is. 

Edited May 16 by Thought Art

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, Thought Art said:

It’s, again arbitrary.

Is it? Or you just don't know the grand design?

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura Well, I guess that’s the kicker. My ignorance. 

[Yimpa]

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura I have questions to contemplate about I suppose. Which, seems like a good design for an omnipotent God Mind. 

Edited May 16 by Thought Art

[Oppositionless]

@Leo Gura is infinity completely indiscriminate or does it limit itself for some kind of aesthetic . Is there a universe that's just Tiger Woods.

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, Oppositionless said:

@Leo Gura is infinity completely indiscriminate or does it limit itself for some kind of aesthetic . Is there a universe that's just Tiger Woods.

I don't know. I only know me.

[ExploringReality]

@Leo Gura all there is, is me. I am a strange loop.

[Thought Art]

@Oppositionless I think that’s basically what I was wondering. And Leo doesn’t know like I said.

[Leo Gura]

@Thought Art You underestimate how serious Consciousness is. You think this is some kind of joke. Consciousness is so serious that it includes raping you to death in the ass with a hot poker.

A human is incapable of apprecating such things.

You are not interested in Reality, you are interested in comfort and survival. Due to this all human notions of Reality are silly nonsense.

Edited May 17 by Leo Gura

[The Crocodile]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Consciousness is so serious that it includes raping you to death in the ass with a hot poker.

But it also includes that not happening ever. 

 

You need to explain the mechanics behind why a dinosaur won't appear right now and eat you. Just because it seems unlikely doesn't mean it can't happen.

[ExploringReality]

@Thought Art sigh 😔 

[Leo Gura]

14 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

God is into ass rape for its own sake?

That's Infinity.

It's impersonal.

When we say God is selfless, we really mean it. It's a level of selfless unfathomable to a human being.