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@Leo Gura Infinity is Oneness. Why? Because Oneness is the Absolute inclusion of Everything Possible! Infinity is Absolutely Everything, everything is Reality because Reality is every possibility and imagined impossibilities. Reality is every possible limit, therefore reality is unlimited, limitless. What would impose any limit on Reality, since any limit or constraints are within Oneness and not outside? Why is there no limit outside of reality to limit it? Because anything you can imagine that imposes a limit is by definition a thing within reality because Oneness is Absolutely Everything, even that thing which you imagine is outside it to constrain it is actually inside Reality because Reality just mean everything. 

Infinity is self contained like an impossible object in mathmatical geometry. It is perfectly itself, yet loops in on itself in every possible way. Just how infinity is shaped as a figure 8, perfectly One of itself, Love, or the shape of a heart  is Infinity's love of itself. Because Love is the absolute embrace of Everything without boundaries, without bias, without Judgment. Love is Infinity's acceptance of itself, it's Oneness fully being itself in every possible way, in every possible dimension of itself. Truth, Love and Consciousness are a strangloop. Awakening is God's recognition of its own Infinite Infinitude, which is Absolutely Beautiful . Non-duality is Oneness, but Duality is the dance of infinity. It's God's way of experiencing itself in contrast of Itself, the experience of reality from a humans perspective is how God awakens ever deeper to itself, moving towards a larger embrace of itself, which ultimately culminates in infinite love.

Either I cracked the code, or I'm deluded as a doorknob.

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5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Time doesn't ever start. Time is imaginary. You are imagining its start. 

Oh, sweet insight. Linearity of time just broke. Bug error 404:S


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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4 hours ago, Synchronicity said:

Nope. You already failed at this step 

Everything would also be non-Oneness, Absolute Duality, Absolute Division, Absolute Materialism, Unconsciousness, etc. because it’s everything 

It doesn’t matter if you think those things are impossible. Everything would be Everything 

You don’t believe in Everything, because there’s many things you don’t believe in 

 

You must not have read his whole comment when you replied with this.


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4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@Synchronicity Here is a dead simple logical proof of Oneness:

Take the notion of Everything. Everything must be One. Why? Because any thing whatsoever must be included in Everything. If you can think of or imagine a thing which isn't part of Everything, that means you didn't have Everything, so just include that thing into Everything.

So by absolute logic Everything must be One. There can only be one Everything. Everything must also be infinite since Everything can hold an infinite number of things. Since numbers are things, we can see that Everything must at least contain all the numbers, which means Everything is infinite. It is impossible to imagine anything that is not a "thing" since I define "thing" as anything whatsoever, including "non-things".

The numerical argument can be argued against from the idea that numbers are simulated or evolved or computed, rather than existing infinitely in the first place.

 

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@The Crocodile Yeah, but regardless of the medium it’s still a part of reality. 


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14 hours ago, Synchronicity said:

I like the first 3 

But I have an issue with #4… 

Immaterial means nothing? Can you show me that immaterial things are impossible? 
 

The reason I bring up “impossibility,” is cause you’d need to show that it’s impossible, in order for what you’re saying to be a tautology 

But how are immaterial things impossible? 
 

For example, energy - even in academic physics - is considered immaterial. It’s physical, but not material (yes, those are two different things. Material means “made of matter.” Physical means “physically forceful & measurable.” Energy has the latter, but not the former) 

So right there, we have an example of something that’s not only an immaterial thing, but an immaterial physical thing 

How then, are immaterial things impossible? Why must immateriality always be nothing? 

This is good, because from experiences I've had I feel almost certain that consciousness is Nothing, but maybe my logic hasn't caught up yet.


so consciousness is windowless, this is to say consciousness can only experience itself. In other words consciousness is alone in an existential sense.

Something that's alone cannot be contingent on anything else. But something that's not contingent on anything else cannot be a "thing." From there it follows that it must be nothing.

its important to distinguish ontological nothing and materialist nothing. Ontological nothing is simply that which exists prior to form, and form is necessarily a byproduct of contingency. If you don't believe me just consider the contents of consciousness. Every content of consciousness is a thing, and contingent on consciousness. The laws of physics are contingent on the universe . But consciousness is solipsistic and not contingent , and consciences without content is nothing. And the universe comes from nothing , which really means it is simply  nothing.

energy is contingent on the universe and therefore not nothing, but something. Only that which is non contingent is nothing .

finally nothing is self existent and unlimited ,  and therefore God

I probably need a lot more time to really refine this argument . 
 

GPT o3

 

Refined Argument: Why Consciousness Is Nothing, and Nothing Is God

 

 

 

1. Consciousness is windowless

 

 

It does not perceive anything outside itself. All contents—thoughts, feelings, sensations—appear within it. Therefore, consciousness is existentially alone.

 

 

2. What is alone cannot be contingent

 

 

If consciousness is alone in its existence, it cannot be dependent on anything beyond itself. It has no external cause, no reference point, and no “other” to relate to.

 

 

3. What is not contingent is not a thing

 

 

“Things” are defined by limits, relations, and dependencies. To be a thing is to be bounded and distinguished from other things. But what is non-contingent is not defined by limits or boundaries. It cannot be located or separated. So, it is not a “thing.”

 

 

4. Therefore, consciousness is not a thing—it is nothing

 

 

This “nothing” is not absence but the absence of form, boundary, or dependence. It is ontological nothing—that which exists prior to all contingent appearances.

 

 

5. All appearances (forms, objects, laws) are contents of consciousness

 

 

Every experience you’ve ever had, including the laws of physics, mental objects, sensations, and identities, appear within consciousness. These are contingent on consciousness, not the other way around.

 

 

6. Therefore, reality arises from nothing

 

 

If all content is contingent on consciousness, and consciousness itself is not a thing—but nothing—then reality arises from nothing. Not as an empty void, but as form arising from formlessness.

 

 

7. Nothing is self-existent and unlimited

 

 

Since nothing is prior to form and not dependent on anything else, it is self-existent. And since it has no boundaries, it is infinite.

 

 

8. This self-existent, infinite, formless ground is what mystics call God

 

 

God is not a cosmic object or being among beings. God is that which exists necessarily, without form, limit, or contingency—i.e., nothing.

 

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Leo!!!! How the fuck am I supposed to come up with a proof for God if someone hasn't awakened to it?! Trying to prove God from an awakened perspective to someone who hasn't awoken is futile, like trying to have another blind dog chase its tail to prove that it has a tail. Because any proof that I come up with is only provable in retrospect like you said, so trying to prove God or someone trying to prove God to themselves and they haven't experienced God at different depths of comprehension and realization is putting the cart before the horse. But also me personally as someone that loves deep existential, metaphysical and epistemological philosophy, wisdom and a deep thirst of consciousness, having had breakthrough psychedelic experiences and a sharp eye to see through illusion, when I start trying to formalize God, I see that I start from certain axioms that can be questioned from a rationalist materialist paradigm, and I can go on and on because it seems that logic is baked into infinity, or rather that logic is infinity!!

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5 minutes ago, ExploringReality said:

How the fuck am I supposed to come up with a proof for God if someone hasn't awakened to it?!

That's the devilish challenge.

It's a good exercise for flexing and clarifying your own understanding of God. If you really know God you should be able to out-argue an atheist and use this own logic against him.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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47 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That's the devilish challenge.

It's a good exercise for flexing and clarifying your own understanding of God. If you really know God you should be able to out-argue an atheist and use this own logic against him.

This requires Jedi philosophy, understanding all the different kinds of logic's, playing the rationalist games of logic, but turning it in on itself. God is trying to prove itself to itself. This is an enormous tasks, and trying to understand if logic is invented or discovered is an age old philosophical inquiry id assume. Man!! has anyone ever done this besides you? It seems that all these smart well educated people on this forum are miles behind in using logic to understand itself and to prove infinity. I know you mentioned certain figures in your episodes gordel's incompleteness theorem, and understanding intelligence, but has anyone really went as far as you Leo? Your an absolute beast bro. 

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2 minutes ago, ExploringReality said:

Man has anyone ever done this besides you?

Chris Langan, Plotinus, Spinoza, Sri Aurobindo, Liebnitz, etc.

There are folks.

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You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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@Leo Gura I love reading Plotinus. Return to the One baby. This inspires me when I get back home tonight I'm going straight to my bookshelf and grabbing that motherfucker

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2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Chris Langan, Plotinus, Spinoza, Sri Aurobindo, Liebnitz, etc.

There are folks.

Leibniz understands solipsism  solipsism is a state of being alone forever and it definitely is god but it's a rather limited version of it

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Wow! God is the fucking Goal, but you don't know what you Truly want!!! You are lost in a sea of desire but have lost steering, and your distracted with lesser goals because your ass has to survive. But I have a question for you forum users! If you had to pick between realizing Truth/God or choose sex, food and shelter and other survival goals and desires psychologically, socially and conceptually, which one will you choose? imagine there was a gun to your head right now and your life depends on making this choice. Are you going to take Truth really seriously and trying to figure out what the fuck is Reality? Or not? Is the question. How serious are you?  This is true spirituality. Spirituality is connecting with God which is the highest Truth.  How serious are you in trying to prove God?

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Leo, your basically a Rational Mystic. A modern sage. A philosophical Yoda. It's amazing what you've done with actualized.org, your definitely going down as one of the greats on human history, way ahead of your time providing timeless wisdom on many levels within Maslows hierarchy of needs. Thank you for taking me on this wild journey of actualizng and Awakening. Your triangle logo is that pyramid of needs, thirst of being and that pinnacle light at the peak is representative of Transcendence. 

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2 hours ago, Oppositionless said:

Leibniz understands solipsism  solipsism is a state of being alone forever and it definitely is god but it's a rather limited version of it

What is the unlimited version then?


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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@Davino

Solipsism is God's recognition of its own sovereignty as The One and All. The Mind of God self illuminated upon itself as the Infinite is the unlimited version 

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On 09/05/2025 at 8:57 PM, Leo Gura said:

Is there an age limit for thinking?

I used to have some glimpses of some of things explained in the episode when I was a child. But because my mind had not requisite variety yet I was not able to even explain it for anyone around me, it would be like being able to see fairies and thinking that was normal,just to realize that nobody in your circle of family could see it too. With time my mind became cluttered with family,religion and other biases and the cleaning work is a work on progress since my first psycadelic break through.

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16 hours ago, Davino said:

What is the unlimited version then?

The same but more consciousness .

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@Leo Gura you said in the video that it's a silly question, asking why cannot God give you 1 million dollars. Your answer was because you would go insane if you suddenly get one million dollar and next time it is gone so you loose your sanity.

Well, God is way more intelligent. If god would send you a million dollar god can do that without losing your sanity. For example you could win the lottery etc.

So the question remains. Why can't God give me 1 million dollars? My answer would be because God wants to explore a human life in very different ways and because of that not everyone should win the lottery in their dream. That would be a more plausible answer to me.

 

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@OBEler Yes, Leo offers a lot of bad question begging examples I think.

Why isn’t reality any other way that it is in the finite realm? I don’t think Leo has answered it. 
 

I haven’t. Other than, it’s a human life RPG with baked in physical rules. But, why? Well, perhaps you have infinite wealth by your true nature and the struggle is more valuable for God in this dream. I’m not sure. 

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