Good ol' Rupert Spira goes hard

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

Lol. I sucked at Math so I read that in Spanish. 

"I'm that energy"....there's no I. It's simply just energy. 

🤣 Then I am energy. Energy is the same than matter, it's something, what is something? Any "something" is relation. Energy is relation, flow of relations. Reality manifested is done of relations, infinite flow of relations, or mathematical relationship create possible dimensions inside of other relationship inside of other, and other....it's impossible to be anything else. Reality is a flow of maths. Possibilities that's can happen because are logical, symmetrical, syncronized, perfect, coordinated with the whole infinite. Nothing not mathematically logical can exist. Not because the reality follow the laws of maths, it's because the maths are the expression of the logically possible 

[koops]

49 minutes ago, AJBrew said:

It think he's trying to mess with you

yep haha

[AJBrew]

24 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Not my concern.

It really helps to clarify though. Clarification is key to clarity.

[Max1993]

@Princess Arabia You are completely correct. We do not DO thinking. Peter Ralston overcomplicates everything too. I wanna be the Steve Jobs of spirituality lol, I love love simplicity. Check out Terrence Stephens nonduality on YT. 

[Princess Arabia]

23 minutes ago, Max1993 said:

@Princess Arabia You are completely correct. We do not DO thinking. Peter Ralston overcomplicates everything too. I wanna be the Steve Jobs of spirituality lol, I love love simplicity. Check out Terrence Stephens nonduality on YT. 

I will. 

The thing is, since this is free to be as it wants and is not limited, we will see everything from simplicity to complications of the One. Humans just aren't satisfied with simplicity when it comes to Spirituality. If it doesn't sound complicated, have an air of profundity to it, create feelings of divinity and specialness, it's usually shunned or overlooked. A simple 'this is it' is not enough to awaken the seeker's need for something to happen. I love simplicity as well even though I might engage in complicated talks just to feed the ego. I don't need to try and evade something that's not really there so i don't try to be one way or the other, it just happens but I still have a preference of simplicity in this field.

[Max1993]

@Princess Arabia Yes. Any moment can be deconstructed back to the absolute. I am also surprised that Leo does not talk about manifestation more. The less thoughts the better, when it comes to creating desired outcomes. I also think I can heal his body if he would listen to me lol. anyways...

 

 

[Max1993]

@Princess Arabia I love that the ego does not have any free-will whatsoever, God literally knows the best movie to play in front of you. 

[Dodo]

On 02/05/2025 at 7:33 PM, koops said:

Listen at 26:05

Is saying 'I am God' a blasphemy?

I thought he was going to go on the 'safe' rout, and the, he hits it.

 

I love Rupert Spira, but not with him on this. 

I can use his argument against him, he is limiting God to not being able to create other beings. God is limited to being alone forever, as if! 

A king is not a king without a kingdom to rule, a God is not a God without its creations. 

The thing I point to when  I say I in everyday speech is a creation which has a beginning and an end. I need to go pee, not God. 

 

[koops]

37 minutes ago, Dodo said:

I love Rupert Spira, but not with him on this. 

I can use his argument against him, he is limiting God to not being able to create other beings. God is limited to being alone forever, as if! 

A king is not a king without a kingdom to rule, a God is not a God without its creations. 

The thing I point to when  I say I in everyday speech is a creation which has a beginning and an end. I need to go pee, not God. 

 

Saying that Infinity is trapped is tricky.

But if you say there is a God, and there are its creations, you are creating a duality.

you dont pee. Thats ego. Illusion. The illusory 'I' appropriates the action.

 

 

 

 

[Dan502]

Yes, Peter Ralston often claims that we're doing our thoughts/emotions.

I think this is a bit like, you know how those body language experts will spot "tells" that people have, which indicate they're lying. The people themselves might not even know they're twitching their foot when they lie for example. But if they'd paid more attention, they might realize that they do so, and can then stop. Similarly, other elements of our behavior might be thought of as "unconscious".

We might make a distinction between the relative domain in which such teachings occur, and the absolute. Not every person can learn everything that Peter teaches (even though he might say, with conviction, "you can learn this", while talking to a camera or a group of people). This brings into question whether his claims are absolutely true. It might be difficult to teach without making relative claims using absolute language because language currently appears to function that way, hence a challenge in communicating non-linguistic "truth" in general.

It certainly is confusing for the mind, as are most "things" if contemplated.

[Dodo]

2 hours ago, koops said:

Saying that Infinity is trapped is tricky.

But if you say there is a God, and there are its creations, you are creating a duality.

you dont pee. Thats ego. Illusion. The illusory 'I' appropriates the action.

 

 

 

 

If you say there is only God, you are creating a singularity. That's not it either

Diversity in Oneness. We are separate and connected, we live in the same reality and there is no other reality. 

You dont know what I had for breakfast,  I dont know what you had for breakfast. And its best it stays that way. 

 

Edited May 4 by Dodo

[Sugarcoat]

Could you say you’re a “non dual person” or is that even more blasphemous? 

[Dodo]

6 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Could you say you’re a “non dual person” or is that even more blasphemous? 

Think can say many things and still Ramana would be right about Silence tho as the highest truth in words.

Leo need to post hour long video where he just sits and does nothing, that would be a banger. Like not even meditating, like being focused, just sitting there, being. Hehe

Edited May 4 by Dodo

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, Dodo said:

Think can say many things and still Ramana would be right about Silence tho as the highest truth in words.

I’m very silent person does that make me closer to truth?

 

Ok now I’m just being silly. But jokes aside. In absolute sense word is equal to silence because it’s all appearance in absolute. But we get caught up in the words

[Princess Arabia]

12 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Could you say you’re a “non dual person” or is that even more blasphemous? 

Saying non-dual person is like saying air-like air.🤣🤣

[Dodo]

9 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I’m very silent person does that make me closer to truth?

 

Ok now I’m just being silly. But jokes aside. In absolute sense word is equal to silence because it’s all appearance in absolute. But we get caught up in the words

I get what you mean, its all the Emptinness, the silence, appearing as noise / somethingness, but its not just, because there is a qualitative difference between being able to hear and not, or being able to see and not. 

Seems like the waking dream Does include necessariy duality for it to operate. 

A payer, a payee. An attacker, a victim. A good guy, a bad guy. From outside the lense of spacetime non of these are real, but within this book/story/movie/wakingdream they are real, just like the street would be real for a GTA character if they were sentient, despite the streets not being real to their creator, but just pixels. 

The character that the creator plays still is a creation as much as the streets and house

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[koops]

13 minutes ago, Dodo said:

Leo need to post hour long video where he just sits and does nothing, that would be a banger. Like not even meditating, like being focused, just sitting there, being. Hehe

THIS

[koops]

59 minutes ago, Dodo said:

If you say there is only God, you are creating a singularity. That's not it either

Diversity in Oneness. We are separate and connected, we live in the same reality and there is no other reality. 

You dont know what I had for breakfast,  I dont know what you had for breakfast. And its best it stays that way. 

 

I dont know what you had for breakfast, but think it like this.

If you are dreaming and you are John character, you dont know what Joe is thinking or what Joe had for breakfast.

There are apparently 2 characters. But there is only one mind dreaming. One dream.

 

[Dodo]

19 minutes ago, koops said:

I dont know what you had for breakfast, but think it like this.

If you are dreaming and you are John character, you dont know what Joe is thinking or what Joe had for breakfast.

There are apparently 2 characters. But there is only one mind dreaming. One dream.

 

I'll double down, in dreams we cant draw parallels with reality. In dream at night absolutely all communication doesn't happen in words, it happens telepathically, because its part of your subconscious mind speaking with you, not other minds, your subconscious part of the mind, as you uncover it with the light of awareness.

In awake reality we communicate through moving our mouth, creating sounds. We can create a screeching noise or any noise we like, but we cant telepathically communicate with others because they are not us.

Like now, I have to type this to you for you to know it, i cant telepathically feed it into you, like it would happen if it was a dream.

 

 

 

Edited May 4 by Dodo

[Dodo]

My two cents, i believe one thing many teachers say is the Truth cannot be said in words. 

If I believe that, then any time someone presents the Truth in word, I can play the contrarian, as the thorn that removes the thorn stuck in your teeth. 

Then better not stick the new thorn in your teeth after you remove the old one, they say!