I Hate Women

[Yimpa]

6 hours ago, TheEnigma said:

Hate is a strong word.

Love is.

[Breakingthewall]

The shallow and empty attention girls enjoy is a total curse; it binds them to eternal stupidity and adolescence. It's better to be a virgin forever than that shit. Even better is to be in a Stalinist gulag. At least you die with dignity and authenticity. Living as a narcissist is worse than death. They look brilliant on the outside, but they're absolutely rotten on the inside

[LordFall]

@Breakingthewall Why put it in extremes? Plenty of highly competend and rich men that are not shallow and narcissistic. Being a hateful nihilist is definitely not more moral lol. 

[Breakingthewall]

25 minutes ago, LordFall said:

@Breakingthewall Why put it in extremes? Plenty of highly competend and rich men that are not shallow and narcissistic. Being a hateful nihilist is definitely not more moral lol. 

I'm not nihilistic, but I understand the social dynamics of dating well. It's 99% narcissism. Most people are deeply dissatisfied; relationships are empty, superficial, and ego-focused. Sex is hedonistic, people measure themselves by category, and no one touches the other's soul. It's absolutely boring. But what to do? That's human life

Edited May 1 by Breakingthewall

[Natasha Tori Maru]

6 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

I'm not nihilistic, but I understand the social dynamics of dating well. It's 99% narcissism. Most people are deeply dissatisfied; relationships are empty, superficial, and ego-focused. Sex is hedonistic, people measure themselves by category, and no one touches the other's soul. It's absolutely boring. But what to do? That's human life

Data to back this? or is this just anecdotes and reading internet heresy.

You saying most = 51%?  

[LordFall]

@Breakingthewall I would argue finding it narcissistic is narcissistic, like you're better then that. You got it right that's what humanity is, if the soul is shallow how can it be shallow? Just get good at it, get over your ego and enjoy it. Find your favorite two girls and fuck them at the same time and you'll see the universal beauty in sexual dimorphism. 

[Breakingthewall]

3 hours ago, LordFall said:

@Breakingthewall I would argue finding it narcissistic is narcissistic, like you're better then that. You got it right that's what humanity is, if the soul is shallow how can it be shallow? Just get good at it, get over your ego and enjoy it. Find your favorite two girls and fuck them at the same time and you'll see the universal beauty in sexual dimorphism. 

You are right, it's just a personal and general perception, not everyone is the same. If your energy is open and deep, similar people can appear.

 What I wanted to express is that girls aren't "lucky" enough to receive social attention. Almost always, everything offered and exchanged is pure ego, completely unreal relationships. But this is normal, since most people are like that, unreal. It's what it is; society creates very superficial individuals. Deep down, people are deeply unsatisfied, and they don't know why; they can't see beyond it. It's very difficult.

[Breakingthewall]

4 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Data to back this? or is this just anecdotes and reading internet heresy.

You saying most = 51%?  

I'd say most than 99%. Sex and relationship are a mirage, a trick of the ego. It's something that keeps us moving like puppets, thinking it's necessary and satisfying, and it's almost always alienating. But we all operate at a superficial level where our ego needs to be fed, and we create a vision in which couple relationships and sex are exactly what we need. And this binds us, since it's a very particular type of relationship, a biological need born for the perpetuation of the species, to which we consider an unavoidable source of personal satisfaction. Without it, we are failures; it's necessary. It's a real trap. 

Edited May 2 by Breakingthewall

[Natasha Tori Maru]

28 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I'd say most than 99%. Sex and relationship are a mirage, a trick of the ego. It's something that keeps us moving like puppets, thinking it's necessary and satisfying, and it's almost always alienating. But we all operate at a superficial level where our ego needs to be fed, and we create a vision in which couple relationships and sex are exactly what we need. And this binds us, since it's a very particular type of relationship, a biological need born for the perpetuation of the species, to which we consider an unavoidable source of personal satisfaction. Without it, we are failures; it's necessary. It's a real trap. 

Alright - gently pointing out this is not true or accurate and founded on a belief system you have constructed.

99% of dating being negative is outside the scope of reason. Noting, also, you did not answer the first part of my query. Without being able to put forth evidence to effectively argue the reasons for your conclusions, they are simply beliefs - and very negatively bent at that.

However, I can see this religious fervor you have for these biases means this will be your reality.

Thanks for the answer - I really, truly, hope you can find a way out of this thought lock you are cycling within.

[Breakingthewall]

22 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

not answer the first part of my query. Without being able to put forth evidence

What evidence could be?  it's just a subjective opinion. 

[Schizophonia]

@Breakingthewall

It's a projection.

Generally, spirituality attracts people who dislike matter and other human beings.

Even if it's repressed, and even though I love spirituality, it's fundamentally a twisted strategy to gain power.

It usually begins early in childhood during the Oedipus complex (omitting other possible scenarios during the transition to the phallic stage); an overly powerful father, a love-hate relationship exaggerated, and you end up with a negative preconception about social and romantic relationships that you obsess over; this is inscribed in the self-concept.
The goal of persuading oneself that relationships are bad begins very early and is a unconscious strategy to avoid oedipal temptation, and generally it's a sign of poor superego development; comorbid with other obsessive-compulsive neurotic tendencies.

If you want proof to the contrary, abandon the idealistic mirrors and turn to the materialistic ones.

Spiritual people are actually the least filled with love.

Edited May 2 by Schizophonia

[Breakingthewall]

2 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Even if it's repressed, and even though I love spirituality, it's fundamentally a twisted strategy to gain power.

Could be in some cases, in others it could could be totally true. 

2 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Generally, spirituality attracts people who dislike matter and other human beings.

I like other human beings, I don't like falsehood , then I like true people, but there are very few, maybe you can't see the depth of the falsehood in humans due it's need of acceptance 

[Schizophonia]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

Could be in some cases, in others it could could be totally true. 

This is always the case.

To give a materialistic perspective, for a change, lol; there's a reason why our central nervous system chose to be interested in spirituality rather than bonatics, big cars, or cinnamon apple pies (yum).

There came a time when the energy shifted there, and there had to be a logic, an algorithm to explain this direction, and this was a survival logic; human logic.

The more "spiritual" someone is, the more one might suspect that anything that doesn't fall under spirituality, that is, from a childish point of view, a language of submission based on castration anxiety, is forbidden. (Hence the fact that spirituality is generally a women's affair, with slightly neurotic men at the top of the pyramid.)
And this prohibition will create an avoidance of social relationships and/or love and/or sex. Since the cause of the ban is painful (I'm sure that if I post love poems or things like that, even if it's not my personal thing, you and many others will cringe), a persona that doesn't involve this threat will be compulsively maintained by mental discourse, even if it seems pessimistic.

Of course, there are many couples who love each other and are very romantic, I see them everywhere; but this can trigger feelings of discomfort and anger about my more or less conscious sense of dissatisfaction and the trauma I've experienced. So I can also turn my head toward other mirrors, people who seem to be together out of spite or something like that, and ruminate on how all of this isn't love for one reason or another, because even if it's pessimistic, it still hurts less, subconsciously, than being confronted with reality.
Often, pessimism, rigidity, is a strategy developed during development to avoid falling into psychiatric decompression; because again, for the ego, survival is what matters most.

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

I like other human beings, I don't like falsehood , then I like true people, but there are very few, maybe you can't see the depth of the falsehood in humans due it's need of acceptance 

You didn't just say that; you also wrote a paragraph about how women are eternal adolescents and that it would be better to be in the gulag than to be a woman who lives in attention.

It's certainly motivated by aggression, but still hidden beneath layers of rationalization where you escape into your persona as a spiritual seeker.

Not even because you'd like to be in the woman's place, but because you suffer from your lack of relationships, even in the male role, if you know what I mean, but it's illegal in your system.

Spiritual -> Submission strategy; Prohibition of complaining, of rebelling, of having a libidinal agenda (sex, love, money, involvement in politics, social connections in general, partying).

Again, no matter how we get lost in layers of language, in the end, there are only strategies of survival, of power.

[Breakingthewall]

31 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

You didn't just say that; you also wrote a paragraph about how women are eternal adolescents and that it would be better to be in the gulag than to be a woman who lives in attention.

No, try to read carefully and interpret correctly. What I have said is that the current dynamic tends towards narcissism and women, being the center of attention for a mass of men in need of success expressed as sex, very easily fall into narcissistic relationship dynamics with others and with themselves, focused on the impact they generate on others, and that is misery and a prison comparable to a gulag if you do not manage to get out of it.

[Sugarcoat]

On 2025-04-23 at 7:27 PM, SQAAD said:

If you are an average looking young woman you automatically have a lot of power and leverage on many things

What is this power you’re talking about? I’d say I’m an average looking young woman but I don’t experience this power. Oh what I power I have to be able to access sex easily, life is so good! It just cured all my misery!

Edited May 2 by Sugarcoat

[Schizophonia]

46 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

No, try to read carefully and interpret correctly. What I have said is that the current dynamic tends towards narcissism and women, being the center of attention for a mass of men in need of success expressed as sex, very easily fall into narcissistic relationship dynamics with others and with themselves, focused on the impact they generate on others, and that is misery and a prison comparable to a gulag if you do not manage to get out of it.

In your world.

40 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

What is this power you’re talking about? I’d say I’m an average looking young woman but I don’t experience this power. Oh what I power I have to be able to access sex easily, life is so good! It just cured all my misery!

He's speaking from a relational point of view, I think.

[Breakingthewall]

42 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Oh what I power I have to be able to access sex easily, life is so good! It just cured all my misery!

That's because you are not a narcissist then you don't see your power, because for you that's nothing, just misery and falsehood that worths zero, but most of people see a brilliant thing that they confuse with success and happiness and they become a kind of drug addicts of approval and social reinforcement, and their greatest glory is having many admiring and idolizing followers. To achieve this, they build a personality that fits with that of the other party. Look at Only Fans, for example. It's taken to the level of caricature. 

But the reality is that most people have that virus to a greater or lesser extent. They are puppets dancing to the tune of narcissism. They believe they are happy because they wear a mask of happiness, but underneath they are empty. They only dance activated by their drug. And of course they don't see it, and if someone mentions it, they will think they are bitter or a loser.

[Schizophonia]

19 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

That's because you are not a narcissist then you don't see your power, because for you that's nothing, just misery and falsehood that worths zero, but most of people see a brilliant thing that they confuse with success and happiness and they become a kind of drug addicts of approval and social reinforcement, and their greatest glory is having many admiring and idolizing followers. To achieve this, they build a personality that fits with that of the other party. Look at Only Fans, for example. It's taken to the level of caricature. 

But the reality is that most people have that virus to a greater or lesser extent. They are puppets dancing to the tune of narcissism. They believe they are happy because they wear a mask of happiness, but underneath they are empty. They only dance activated by their drug. And of course they don't see it, and if someone mentions it, they will think they are bitter or a loser.

She suffer from depersonalization/derealisation, is under neuroleptic, and even if we stick to the relationship problem she is not sociable and has its own psychic flaws in general which can generate unwanted results in this area; As everyone else.

Look how you jump on her answer to force your paradigm.

Edited May 2 by Schizophonia

[Breakingthewall]

58 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

She suffer from depersonalization/derealisation, is under neuroleptic, and even if we stick to the relationship problem she is not sociable and has its own psychic flaws in general which can generate unwanted results in this area; As everyone else.

Look how you jump on her answer to force your paradigm.

No, I just said that her way is not narcissist, it doesn't means that she hasn't other issues, but not this one. It's rare because most of people is very focused in their ego, but doesn't mean better mental health, just not seeking reward in the image that you project in others

[Sugarcoat]

4 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

He's speaking from a relational point of view, I think.

I don’t know what that means