Issues With clairvoyance

[integral]

Teal Swan a while ago was deceived for three years by a film crew who twisted and edited all the content they shot to make her look like a cult leader with dark intentions.

The entire time they lied directly to her face for three years and she had no idea. In the video above they sent her loving birthday wishes, showcasing to the full extent how much they groomed her and lied to her. They sent her birthday videos going to great lengths praising her and sending her love.

Teal Swan has spoken in depth on her clairvoyant powers and mystical abilities yet she was fooled for three years by psychopaths.

I understand clairvoyance doesn’t make you perfect or that it might not apply in this situation, she’s running a larger organization, there’s a lot of moving parts so her attention is stretched. Maybe if she had more free time her clairvoyant abilities would’ve been more effective here.

In end they made her feel a specific way and she fell for it.

Because these powers are about how your feelings are entangled with reality, that’s the core of these powers.

Edited April 18 by integral

[Lyubov]

This person always seems to have some controversy swirling around them. To me, not the sign of someone serious or mature to learn from. 

[The Crocodile]

It means Teal Swan is fraudulent, like 99% of people in any field.

[integral]

@The Crocodile @Lyubov I wouldn’t go that far, watching her videos there’s plenty of great insights. She could very well be corrupt, but at the same time very skilled

Edited April 15 by integral

[BlueOak]

Having had a couple of clairvoyant experiences, simple day-to-day things. It's like a snapshot of something that happens the next day. You don't get someone sitting down and telling you everything that's happening that day, or all the permutations, problems, and challenges. They come up anyway, because they are you.

[BlueOak]

As for Teal herself, she is probably the most emotionally intelligent human being teaching emotional awareness. If there is another, by all means, point me at them, and i'll go learn from them too. There are times i've hated what she's said, or loved it. But mostly it's just insightful. There can be a problem with that though, I can see why people would form unhealthy (and healthy) attachments to this kind of material.

[integral]

@BlueOak I agree her emotional intelligence and insights our exceptional. I pointed out clairvoyance because it’s such a fuzzy gray concept, and its explained so poorly that it’s unclear how it fits into anything in a tangible way.

I have plenty of stories where my insights told me something that happened to be true about the people around me or certain things and I just don’t call it clairvoyance.

People that use the word clairvoyant tend to be hyper emotionally sensitive, but yet downplay feelings as a critical and important part of their clairvoyant state, they instead try to make it this mystical thing. It’s obvious conflict of interest and trying to distance themselves from clairvoyance being just a highly skilled use of feelings and intuition.

When really if they explained it as a highly developed form of feeling, it would make so much more sense and bring a great deal of clarity to the whole thing. And then you could have an entire field of study dedicated to emotional epistemology.

I find it a disservice to muddle the waters with magical vocabulary when there’s an entire field of emotional/intuitive epistemology ready to be born.

Edited April 15 by integral

[BlueOak]

9 minutes ago, integral said:

@BlueOak I agree her emotional intelligence and insights our exceptional. I pointed out clairvoyance because it’s such a fuzzy gray concept, and its explained so poorly that it’s unclear how it fits into anything in a tangible way.

I have plenty of stories where my insights told me something that happened to be true about the people around me or certain things and I just don’t call it clairvoyance.

People that use the word clairvoyant tend to be hyper emotionally sensitive, but yet downplay feelings as a critical and important part of their clairvoyant state, they instead try to make it this mystical thing. It’s obvious conflict of interest and trying to distance themselves from clairvoyance being just a highly skilled use of feelings and intuition.

When really if they explained it as a highly developed form of feeling, it would make so much more sense and bring a great deal of clarity to the whole thing. And then you could have an entire field of study dedicated to emotional epistemology.

I find it a disservice to muddle the waters with magical vocabulary when there’s an entire field of emotional/intuitive epistemology ready to be born.

True. I don't have any visual clairvoyance at the moment. I do not remember much of my dreams either currently, which can act as subconscious messages or rather insights. I did need to be very emotionally focused, and in a very loving state to experience what I am describing, but I did have some visual clairvoyance. Again for me at least, it was just a snapshot or two. Of an event which occurred the next day. I also became aware of past life cycles that were repeating in this one, in approximations of what happened before.

A couple of times while meditating, and a few times in a dream when I was able to recall them more clearly, at one point I took the etherium supplements and was writing down full A4 sheets of my dreams. You can also learn to understand your dreams so well that what you need to learn/consider/be aware of makes everything considerably easier. The line between being awake and being asleep blurs. It might seem to another that you are clairvoyant at that point, but it's really just understanding what you need to know. I also believe what you don't realise in a dream is already on its way to the physical reality anyway, so nothing's missed.

I don't talk about this much, because its a long way from where I am currently. Though I feel everyone is capable of this kind of intuition with time and effort. I've realised logically and emotionally that things are created before they are observed. The simplest way I can show you this is ask you to write a reply or not. But it's going on every moment of every day in all the actions, connections, and observations we make or don't make. People understand that, but they don't really harness or appreciate it enough.

 

[AION]

I’m not following your logic. 
 

This is only proof that she is not clairvoyant. Not proof that clairvoyant itself is not a real phenomenon…

 

She is full of shit. But everybody likes her so it is not popular to say it. 
 

I’m clairvoyant myself but people don’t know what it means and they attach super natural qualities to it. 

[Leo Gura]

Crocodiles do not discriminate, biting clairvoyant and non-clairvoyant alike.

[AION]

People talk about clairvoyance like a caveman talks about an airplane thinking it is magic. The word magic is equivalent to “I don’t understand”. What Elon Musks does today is magic for people who lived 200 years ago. And what people will do in 200 years is magic to us. Clairvoyance is no magic. It is just an extra ability of the brain. 

[BlueOak]

2 minutes ago, AION said:

People talk about clairvoyance like a caveman talks about an airplane thinking it is magic. The word magic is equivalent to “I don’t understand”. What Elon Musks does today is magic for people who lived 200 years ago. And what people will do in 200 years is magic to us. Clairvoyance is no magic. It is just an extra ability of the brain. 

I am learning jewellery making, and it might as well be magic watching some of the weaves people do! When I can barely make a few twists without botching the supporting wires. It's just developing that part of yourself out, time, energy and focus etc.

[Hojo]

Its always ironic when a clairvoyant gets tricked. In universal terms its karma for infatuation with the self identity.

Edited April 15 by Hojo

[AION]

10 minutes ago, BlueOak said:

I am learning jewellery making, and it might as well be magic watching some of the weaves people do! When I can barely make a few twists without botching the supporting wires. It's just developing that part of yourself out, time, energy and focus etc.

That is why what God does is “magic”. People think they are god because they put DMT in their ass ffs. 

Edited April 15 by AION

[The Crocodile]

1 hour ago, AION said:

People talk about clairvoyance like a caveman talks about an airplane thinking it is magic. The word magic is equivalent to “I don’t understand”. What Elon Musks does today is magic for people who lived 200 years ago. And what people will do in 200 years is magic to us. Clairvoyance is no magic. It is just an extra ability of the brain. 

It's more like technology is magic you've deluded yourself into thinking you understand.

[The Crocodile]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Crocodiles do not discriminate, biting

You lookin' to get bit by a crocodile these days

[Natasha Tori Maru]

All this confirms for me is Teal Swans ginormous shadow and ego.

She may have clairvoyant abilities. The other side of this coin is their ability to also blind her to deception. Ego is a huge issue for her.

If she had true and pure loving connections to all those around her, either herself or her followers would have intuitively known something and raised this. If they knew and chose not to act this points to misalignment in her energy/connection with those close to her.

She has some fantastic things to say, but she is not enlightened. 

She specialises in shadow work, so it's no wonder she herself has this issue.

We heal in others what we need to heal in ourselves.

[Emerald]

As someone who is a big fan of Teal Swan's work who has been helped tremendously by it, I notice a few things that keep her stuck. And I can see how that would create a blindspot where someone could really screw her over (which did happen).

She is very attached to an identity of being exceptional and different... and she LOVES being showered with praise and being idealized. 

And she really likes to be the tall poppy.

This whole dynamic itself is why she attracts a lot of controversy because she is always trying to be the special one and has 'main character' syndrome... and it does cause her to be open to people who are looking for a cult leader... which gives her the reputation as such. And she also attracts the exact opposite (which are just the inverse of the cult follower) which is the conspiratorial type that sees her as the devil on Earth.

So, it's a bunch of people who see her as either and good alien or a bad alien... and she's very attached to people seeing her as the good alien without realizing that's why she attracts so many that see her as the bad alien.

And deep down she wants fame and attention most of all... she just has very mixed feelings when she gets it because she wants the positive without negative.

I've gone to her shows every time she's come to Florida... which is 3 times.  And you can really see her glow and get a twinkle in her eyes at applause. There seems to be something there that means a lot to her.

And I could see someone really exploiting that craving... by buttering her up and praising her and reinforcing her identity while plotting against her in plain sight. 

[Carl-Richard]

Evidence against clairvoyance 🤨? More like evidence against omniscience.

[Carl-Richard]

11 hours ago, integral said:

I pointed out clairvoyance because it’s such a fuzzy gray concept, and its explained so poorly that it’s unclear how it fits into anything in a tangible way.

I have plenty of stories where my insights told me something that happened to be true about the people around me or certain things and I just don’t call it clairvoyance.

Almost a year ago when I decided on what study I would do for my master's, I thought my results for my study wouldn't be good, and that my advisor would essentially offer me a job and it would be a test of my integrity. Both happened within the last month (although I haven't seen all the results yet ☺️). Am I clairvoyant or just "insightful"?

Edited April 16 by Carl-Richard