Leo Gura

Playlist For Understanding Israel Deception

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16 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

Two-State Solution + the 2M palestinians who already live inside Israeli cities freely.

That I believe would for sure stop the conflict

But it would not stop the insane hatred and animosity 

Lets look for example Germany and Poland

Germany during WW2, did far worse to Poland than Israel has done to Palestinians

They muredered close to 16% of its population, razed their capital to the ground (most destroyed major city in modern history perhaps, on par or even worse than Gaza) and basically had a genocidal policy towards them 

Yet today there seems to be little to no animosity

How come?

Well, Germany faced justice via the Nurenberg trials (for example Hans Frank who was the Nazi overseer of Poland was hanged)

Additionally Germany apologized, reformed and even paid reperations (via EU grants)

Israel has to do the same, if there is any chance of peace

There needs to be trials for Israeli war criminals, extremism Zionism needs to be removed from the society and apologies need to be made

Only then will the two nations be at true peace

One can argue that Hamas leaders responsible for war crimes against Israel should face justice too, but the thing is they did. They are basically all killed now. Israel thirst for revenge and justice towards those that murdered its civilians has been satisfied.

But perhaps that is too utopic

Perhaps a situation where there is no conflict, no oppresion but also massive resentment is the best we can wish for

To most, that would be good enough.

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I don't understand why certain conservative Americans are so pro-Israel to the point of it being identity. Is it the WW2 hero complex? I understand Israel being strategically important, but this fervor does not seem entirely rational. 

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/sep/24/israel-water-shortages-destruction-gaza-treatment-plants-pollution-sanitation-crisis
 

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Israel facing water shortages caused by destruction of Gaza’s treatment plants

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Israel is facing weeks of water shortages after an exceptional algae bloom crippled much of its desalination capacity, in a crisis scientists say was triggered when Israeli attacks destroyed much of Gaza’s wastewater infrastructure, causing a massive discharge of untreated sewage.

 

 

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@Raze This bizarre post is exactly part of the reason why the extreme anti-israelis aren't taken seriously by European leaders and normal moderate citizens. 

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14 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

@Raze This bizarre post is exactly part of the reason why the extreme anti-israelis aren't taken seriously by European leaders and normal moderate citizens. 

It’s relevant because there are other examples of this, Hamas releasing children who they could have killed. Compared to Israel which had a protocol of specifically waiting until targets were near families of children to try and kill the children as well. 

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@Raze I can clearly see how you have been brainwashed to hate Israel and the IDF.

You’re presenting “facts” in a dismissive manner. This is highly manipulative and deceptive.

I think people here should be banned for that.

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36 minutes ago, Heaven said:

@Raze I can clearly see how you have been brainwashed to hate Israel and the IDF.

You’re presenting “facts” in a dismissive manner. This is highly manipulative and deceptive.

I think people here should be banned for that.

1) both the family being spared and the testimony of the Oct 7 survivor are direct quotes from them that were reported in Israeli media 

2) IDF targeting families has been affirmed by multiple IDF whistleblowers testimony.

https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClRY-8Z_LYw

There is no “brainwashing” I’m responding to the evidence, in reality you are brainwashed to support IDF unconditionally and while knowing this is true want to distract to hide it so it keeps occurring.

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