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4 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

The intent to destroy a people because they are inferior just isn't there no matter how much you guys want to push it

Saying 50 of them must die for 1 of us either shows deep superior complex or insanely low moral development.

4 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Remember - this was a war starter by Hamas

I do not consider the situation before as peace. Israel caused the attack because of their inhumane policies. I blame Israel as much as Hamas on this.

4 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Like I said even if there were some among Israeli leadership that sought complete destruction of a race there is a Parliament in place.

Tons of senior figures in Israel have said it. And they have made it happen too.

4 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

One man does not have Absolute power and when you compare Istael to Germany you are comparing them to one very sick man.   

Most of the Nazi elite was on board with the Holocaust. There were hundreds of people who actively took part in it.  Still, I have compared the situation with Palestine more to the Nazi treatment of the USSR than that of the Jews.

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@Leo Gura Not only that Palestinians are being arrested without real trial in hunderds every year and basically are powerless in front of a techonologically advance country that uses this power against them. It is also backed by an unhealthy preserving mechanism that uses mind manipulations in order to keep this happening, and above all that came Netanyahu who uses his charisma for many years to tighten this problem even more making it a full painful and frustrating consciousness prison, So I get you here.

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🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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2 hours ago, Nivsch said:

@Leo Gura Not only that Palestinians are being arrested without real trial in hunderds every year and basically are powerless in front of a techonologically advance country that uses this power against them. It is also backed by an unhealthy preserving mechanism that uses mind manipulations in order to keep this happening, and above all that came Netanyahu who uses his charisma for many years to tighten this problem even more making it a full painful and frustrating consciousness prison, So I get you here.

Maybe because Israel isn't facing a political conflict, but rather religious fanatics. There's no possible dialogue with them. It seems only Muslims understand this. For example those:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DP4Ea6zCNAu/?igsh=MWZiMzVieGY4dm40bA==

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DP5yImKggDU/?igsh=MWFxeGw4N3Nhazl0MQ==

But of course, in the other hand, it's almost sure than Netanyahu allowed the October 7, as those affirm. Demons playing with demons.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPeQ8OMiNsP/?igsh=MXdjdTBidGt1MXY5MA==

But anyway, the facts are the facts and deserve a response 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPhcogjDKwD/?igsh=MWozaGx6bXB0d2RveQ==

And this is caused by this mentality, that is common in the people of gaza. Then, what is the solution?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPs0IMpiOan/?igsh=MWRzMWE1dmNnMnJlNw==

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8 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

Saying 50 of them must die for 1 of us either shows deep superior complex or insanely low moral development.

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Haliva, who stepped down from his position in April 2024....

Enough said?

One man's statement who isn't even in leadership. 

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On 10/12/2025 at 7:18 PM, Leo Gura said:

This does not excuse American war crimes but the American military is not run by Nazis. Well, until last year.

Trump is gonna send inferior races to the gas chambers now?  Yeah OK.  This whole Nazi comparison does way more harm then good.  You get people like Kirk assassinated.   While he was kind of an ass i wouldn't have killed him.


 

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On 10/12/2025 at 8:03 PM, Nivsch said:

But the real nazism of 1939-1945 was so much more than domination and supremacy as you know too and this is why it is so difficult for me with the comparison.

It is difficult for you to find the comparison because it doesnt exist.  Dont try to argue with him he will only double down.  To the point where he starts calling America Nazis too.


 

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4 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Haliva, who stepped down from his position in April 2024....

Enough said?

One man's statement who isn't even in leadership. 

It shows the low moral development of Israeli army and leadership

I am not saying all are like that but the people in power tend to have a tribal type mindset and very low moral development

The law of jungle type of mindset where "you kill 1 of us, we wipe you out" which is basically 10th century morality.

In 21st century we have proportionality which Israel does not care about

A moral country would stop once the death toll exceeded 10.000 as it is too brutal to keep going and try another method

Like ending the occupation? It never crossed their minds 

And close to 30.000 had died until April 2024

Fundamentally Israel has a bully mindset where they over react and basically have a jungle mindset of the type "you take my finger, I take half your body back".

I doubt any advanced country would over react like that if they lost 800 civilians of theirs.

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On 17.10.2025 at 6:50 PM, Breakingthewall said:

There's no possible dialogue with them.

But when you surrender their language their drag you to their level.

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1 hour ago, Nivsch said:

But when you surrender their language their drag you to their level.

Seeing it from outside seems that if Israel wants to exist as a nation, it cannot show indecision or doubt. Israel's enemies are coming to the conclusion that Israel is inevitable. This fact is causing Hamas. Hamas does not seek Israel's destruction; it seeks martyrdom by killing Jews, enemies of Allah, in order to go to paradise. It is the last resort of struggle.

At some point, the Palestinians will understand that what they have been sold is a terrible deal. Then, a real peace could be negotiated, and the Jewish fanatics will be relegated. But as long as the existential threat is simmering, they will have a voice, at least it seems so by logic

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On 10/17/2025 at 0:59 PM, Breakingthewall said:

All this about seeing others as human beings is very good until they position themselves as your enemies, then you see them as your enemies. When the survival instinct takes over, everything else becomes unimportant.

If you go to a party and 1 out of 100 people are your enemy they are the problem. If all 100 people at the party are your enemy then you are the problem

On 10/17/2025 at 0:59 PM, Breakingthewall said:

You justify the October 7 attacks because of the Nakba or whatever. The Jews justify the destruction of Gaza because of October 7, so the Palestinians will justify whatever they do to Gaza, etc., until one side wins.

Doesn't make sense. One started the aggression and never stopped. It wasn't only Nakba but the continuation of it over decades

On 10/17/2025 at 0:59 PM, Breakingthewall said:

That's how human coexistence works. When things get serious, the only law is that of the strongest. It's the law of life. At any other time in history, the strongest would mercilessly destroy the weaker as quickly and completely as possible.

Then the Jews, by law, will lose. Since they are weak, fragile, afraid, and stupid 

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4 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Hamas does not seek Israel's destruction; it seeks martyrdom by killing Jews, enemies of Allah, in order to go to paradise. It is the last resort of struggle.

Agree but you don't have to participate with that and sacrifice your 18yo kids because of that. If you want to keep your sanity focus on a secured border, precise operations from air when needed limited to armed combatants to avoid as much as possible civilians harm, and disrupting its funding and logistical network.

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🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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40 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

Agree but you don't have to participate with that and sacrifice your 18yo kids because of that. If you want to keep your sanity focus on a secured border, precise operations from air when needed limited to armed combatants to avoid as much as possible civilians harm, and disrupting its funding and logistical network.

7 hours ago, Nivsch said:

 

You can't coexist with a population of millions that grows exponentially and that promotes a culture centered on absolute hatred of you, that believes in a god who grants them the essential mission of killing you, and who rewards your murder with eternal glory. It seems a little uncomfortable.

Anyway, about the sacrifice , that's the price of living there I guess. Seems strange situation for a democratic western society, it's not it's place, then this friction happens. Seems that the Israeli are willing to pay that price 

1 hour ago, Twentyfirst said:

Then the Jews, by law, will lose. Since they are weak, fragile, afraid, and stupid 

Maybe they will 

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20 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

 

Maybe they will 

You are under a lot of delusions. But no way you can believe that you are stronger, braver, or have more resolve than a child in Gaza

Arabs will win.

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23 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

You can't coexist with a population of millions that grows exponentially and that promotes a culture centered on absolute hatred of you, that believes in a god who grants them the essential mission of killing you, and who rewards your murder with eternal glory. It seems a little uncomfortable.

Security belt (perimeter) of couple of KM like in south Lebanon. Best defense, minimum harm to soldiers and civilians in both sides of the border. This government wants venganeace. There is no rationality in what happening in Gaza. Just untreated trauma that far-right fundamentalists lack the capacity to process except by projecting it outside.

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🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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On 18.10.2025 at 9:31 PM, Breakingthewall said:

Hamas does not seek Israel's destruction;

I need to correct my earlier comment because I think he does seek the destruction of Israel. What I agreed with before was about the religious roots of its actions. Seeing what he is doing right now to Gazans is enough to understand that the cruelty of hamas goes far beyond his relation to Israel.

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9 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:

You are under a lot of delusions. But no way you can believe that you are stronger, braver, or have more resolve than a child in Gaza

Arabs will win.

I said that maybe the Arabs will win. Win is the sense of expell the Jews, because in my opinion they would win if they coexist with Israel and take advantage of it. 

This Arab understands it

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKfIXbHtf-W/?igsh=eDVuMnk1b3kxenQ1

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5 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

I said that maybe the Arabs will win. Win is the sense of expell the Jews, because in my opinion they would win if they coexist with Israel and take advantage of it. 

All because your people don't want to make peace. Your version of peace is continued domination 

5 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

"This Arab understands it"

"He agrees with my propaganda so I like him

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6 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

All because your people don't want to make peace. Your version of peace is continued domination 

"This Arab understands it"

"He agrees with my propaganda so I like him

What propaganda do you like? To expel Israel? They've tried it many times. I like more the propaganda of coexistence without religious fanaticism

12 hours ago, Nivsch said:

There is no rationality in what happening in Gaza. Just untreated trauma that far-right fundamentalists lack the capacity to process except by projecting it outside.

You could say that the destruction of Gaza is a dividing line between a before and after. Israel has shown that if attacked, its response will be devastating. This could make its enemies think that it's not worth facing those consequences, while the alliance with Israel and the US brings benefits.

The only problem is that Allah orders Israel's destruction and that, but perhaps it's time to leave the Middle Ages and enter the 21st century, where war is a terrible idea and  trade is done with with friends and enemies. Seems that many muslims are understanding it.

This isn't something trivial. Muslims must turn their backs on the philosophy of the Muslim Brotherhood. It's absolutely toxic and must disappear from the world. Otherwise, the consequences could be apocalyptic.

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