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[Rafael Thundercat]

15 hours ago, blankisomeone said:

Doing emotional work and seeking Truths about God's character and receiving God's Love is so much more important than realizing physicality is illusion. Realizing physicality is an illusion is just realizing physicality is an illusion, nothing more. It's not like a person gains MASSIVE spiritual progression by realizing chairs can melt.

The Character of God is very Slippery and Tricky, sometimes he wants to give you some of his Love and sometimes he denies it so he melt the chair in order to show that wanting to gain massive progression is a cheap bargain. Who are you hoping to give you the spiritual progression?

[blankisomeone]

19 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

and sometimes he denies it

God denying love... You must not know God. A chair melting has nothing to do with withdrawal of love, why would you make that connection? Like I said the insight into the ultimate "illusory" nature of physicality doesn't go farther than just that. It changes nothing. Physicality exists whether it's "illusory" or not. Physicality being "illusion" is like the weakest of spiritual teachings, which is why I don't get why spiritual teachers go on about it so much. Of all the possible spiritual lessons, keep harping on this one like it's so profound.

Edited Monday at 12:42 PM by blankisomeone

[Psychonaut]

7 minutes ago, blankisomeone said:

God denying love... You must not know God

How dare you

[Basman]

I love the insight about how abundance mindset is sorta bullshit. It really cuts into the self-improvement/hippie culture you see everywhere. Abundance mindset is kinda like toxic positivity in practice. Like, if you miss out on your dream girl because your too scared to talk to her, you can have an abundance mindset and say that it doesn't matter, but the reality is that you missed out on her and you'll never get another opportunity. Physical reality is finite. Animals wouldn't need to act starved if that wasn't the case.

[Rafael Thundercat]

Perhaps it is better to say that history is written by the survivors. Hard to write history if you're dead.

 

"The real point though, is that the history you are taught is the history that serves those in power. Which history becomes popular is not neutral or objective, it's a political decision that serves someone's survival.

The question is more nuanced than who writes the history. The question is more about which history becomes mainstreamed and popularized, and why. Winners tend to have the political power to popularize history that favors them. Case in point: Christianity and Islam."

Thats why I started reading the works of Silvia Federici "The Caliban and the Witch" and many others that shows blindspots in the His-Story, forgeting the Her-Story as well. 

Also at same time I am Watching the Handmaid Tale Series at Netflix that maybe looks like what a Christian Nationalism would look like if came to be. Maybe even worst that that. Anyway. I agree that the survivors tell the story but if we look for we find out the story of the Resistance of the ones that choose not to bend to the Bullshitery.

[Ulax]

Nice tune

[LifeEnjoyer]

Absolutely beautiful quote.

[blankisomeone]

On 08/11/2026 at 2:34 PM, Psychonaut said:

How dare you

What?

[blankisomeone]

On 08/11/2026 at 2:27 PM, blankisomeone said:

God denying love... You must not know God. A chair melting has nothing to do with withdrawal of love, why would you make that connection? Like I said the insight into the ultimate "illusory" nature of physicality doesn't go farther than just that. It changes nothing. Physicality exists whether it's "illusory" or not. Physicality being "illusion" is like the weakest of spiritual teachings, which is why I don't get why spiritual teachers go on about it so much. Of all the possible spiritual lessons, keep harping on this one like it's so profound.

You can also have an awakening to physicality. Did you know that? Lots of spiritual people aren't aware of the truthful existence of physicality. You can awaken to the illusion of physicality just as you can awaken to the TRUTH of physicality. The other day I was having an awakening to physicality. I'm naturally just more interested in spiritual shit, because I hate physicality in all it's painful, limited ways. But the other day I was lying in bed crying over the seriousness of physical existence. It was sinking in that I have a physical body. It's here. I'm here. Physically incarnated. This is happening. Just as people who love physical existence and are oblivious to spirituality could have an awakening to their non-physical existence and cry over the seriousness of that too. You can be amazed that the chair melts just as you can be amazed the chair is truthfully physical and solid.

Edited 13 hours ago by blankisomeone

[Rafael Thundercat]

6 hours ago, blankisomeone said:

It was sinking in that I have a physical body. It's here. I'm here. Physically incarnated. This is happening

I call it, feeling your own Gravity. Sometimes when High in Space Cookies for example, I dont feel this gravity. I mean I feel my body but the state my consciousness is into is so up that I feel like floating or in a more flow state that I even forget mortality. In contrast the feeling of density.

[Lyubov]

I'm back guys! I tried to stay away from this place till spring to focus on my work, but dammit! There is literally no other place online you can discuss politics, life, relationships and self work like you can here. Being away for 3 weeks made me realize social media comments and facebook groups really are for zombies. This place is just too darn good, even if some people claim the quality has dropped (it has some, need some stronger moderation), but it's still probably one of the best places for deep conversation online and politics as well. Thanks Leo for hosting this place for us to chat. 

Edited 6 hours ago by Lyubov

[blankisomeone]

3 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

I call it, feeling your own Gravity. Sometimes when High in Space Cookies for example, I dont feel this gravity. I mean I feel my body but the state my consciousness is into is so up that I feel like floating or in a more flow state that I even forget mortality. In contrast the feeling of density.

Yeah when you take psychedelics you can awaken to non-physicality but that doesn't negate the existence of physicality. When you come down from the trip, you can just as well view that as an awakening to physicality, which is just as powerful and important. It's not that you're falling back into illusion, you're falling back into the truth of physicality.

Edited 3 hours ago by blankisomeone

[Rafael Thundercat]

@Lyubov a good contrast is good to know how to give value to things. 

[Basman]

A good example of survivors writing history is how Vikings are percieved as bloodthirsty barbarians who go out of their way to kill people. Of course, it was the Christians who got raided who wrote the records of viking attacks.

Vikings weren't even unique in raiding, which was common at the time. The scale of viking violence was just a fraction of that of Charlemaigne's armies. Vikings once hung 100 Englishmen along a river. Charlemagne in contrast had ordered 4500 Galls executed during his war. Vikings are remembered as orcs while Charlemagne is remembered as the father of Europe and has an EU building named after him. 

Edited 38 minutes ago by Basman

[Rafael Thundercat]

28 minutes ago, Basman said:

A good example of survivors writing history is how Vikings are percieved as bloodthirsty barbarians who go out of their way to kill people. Of course, it was the Christians who got raided who wrote the records of viking attacks.

Vikings weren't even unique in raiding, which was common at the time. The scale of viking violence was just a fraction of that of Charlemaigne's armies. Vikings once hung 100 Englishmen along a river. Charlemagne in contrast had ordered 4500 Galls executed during his war. Vikings are remembered as orcs while Charlemagne is remembered as the father of Europe and has an EU building named after him. 

There are a lot of books from Historians telling the history of the misfits,the rebelious, the ones who where part of the resistance. If one look for one find it.