Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Human Mint]

17 hours ago, Nemra said:

Do you mean physics as the mechanics of things or things being physical?

The former is independent from physicalism.

The latter is about physicalism, which is inherently materialistic.

Here is my take against physicalism:

 

Thanks.

Overall it is hard to wrap my head around it. Phisicality of objects is the ultimate trick. If I were to understand it it would be for my own amusement.

[Thought Art]

What is spirit defined as? Reality, truth, actuality, consciousness, qualia.

Edited Saturday at 05:48 PM by Thought Art

[Yimpa]

Infinite Beauty

[ChadT]

Your socialism convention post made me think of this...

 

Sometimes democrats are their own worst enemy.    And I vote democrat 95+%  of the time.  Do we want to be right all the time, or do we want to win elections?

[Rafael Thundercat]

2 hours ago, Thought Art said:

What is spirit defined as?

Soul

 

[Leo Gura]

14 hours ago, Thought Art said:

What is spirit defined as?

Consciousness/Being/Mind/Truth.

[Nemra]

22 hours ago, Human Mint said:

Overall it is hard to wrap my head around it. Physicality of objects is the ultimate trick.

If you focus your attention enough on the existence of your sensory fields, you can become conscious that no object can be carved out from those fields because, essentially, they are qualia—sensory phenomena which are self-evident.

Your perception flips.

Edited 19 hours ago by Nemra

[Nemra]

Contemporary definitions of "matter" are absurd: mechanical, reductionistic, indivisible, naturalistic.

I think viewing "matter" as "holon" would make more sense. Some early philosophers seem to view it that way, more or less.

[Rafael Thundercat]

3 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Contemporary definitions of "matter" are absurd: mechanical, reductionistic, indivisible, naturalistic.

I think viewing "matter" as "holon" would make more sense. Some early philosophers seem to view it that way, more or less.

Different nomeclature same Mystery, still sense making and the True Nature of it not realized. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

" A bigoted Spirit denies its Unity with all the things it has demonized. An open Spirit sees that it is One with all things. The bigotry of science is just a recycling of the bigotry of religion, tribalism, and racism, but at a more subtle level. That bigotry never disappeared, it just evolved into science. Did you really think that bigotry would disappear after you realized religion is stupid? Of course not. Bigotry is a much deeper problem than religion. Of course scientific bigotry exists." 

Today I was listening with a friend a brasilian intelectual who do deep research on racism,sexism,classism. And the term stereotype came up. And them I linked with Bigotry and remembered that nature is energy efficient. So we all know the amount of energy we spend in self-reflection, and trying to unravel our bias constantly. It came to me that to be a bigot is easier, I need to be otherwise we would not have this among us. 

This part bellow I used Claude 
Racism
The category (race) is highly visible and fast to process — skin color, features register in milliseconds, faster than most other social cues. That perceptual speed makes racial stereotyping especially "cheap" to deploy compared to slower-to-detect categories like religion or class background. Historically, racist paradigms also came pre-loaded with institutional scaffolding (segregation, colonial hierarchies, media tropes) — so the individual doesn't even have to build the stereotype themselves; it's inherited fully formed, which is even less effortful than constructing one from scratch. Dismantling it requires not just individuating a person you meet, but consciously working against a schema reinforced by decades of media, law, and inherited narrative — which is why anti-racist self-work tends to require sustained, structural learning, not a single insight.

Sexism
Gender categorization is even faster and more automatic than race in most cognitive-bias research — people sort by gender almost instantly and rarely question the category itself. Sexist heuristics often get an extra energy-saving boost because they're wrapped in "common sense" or pseudo-biological framing ("that's just how men/women are"), which feels like an observation rather than a bias, so it doesn't even trigger the self-reflection alarm. That's what makes it sticky in people who'd readily disavow other prejudices — the schema is camouflaged as description rather than judgment. Undoing it requires noticing the invisible baseline (e.g., "assertive man" vs. "bossy woman" — same behavior, different schema-triggered label).

Classism
Class is less visually instant than race or gender, so it leans more on secondary cues — accent, clothing, vocabulary, neighborhood, job title — which the brain still processes fast, but classism carries an additional psychological payoff: it lets people justify hierarchy as earned ("they didn't work hard enough") rather than structural. This is a particularly efficient shortcut because it resolves a potentially guilt-inducing question (why do some people have less?) with a low-effort just-world narrative, protecting the perceiver's sense that the system — and their own position in it — is fair.

Dismantling classism therefore requires not just correcting a perception of a person, but revising a belief about the fairness of the whole system, which is a bigger identity/worldview cost than correcting a single stereotype.

The common thread
In all three, the "energy saved" isn't just perceptual (fast categorization) — it's also moral labor avoided: not having to sit with complexity, structural guilt, or the discomfort of revising a story about who deserves what. That's why surface-level awareness ("I know stereotypes are bad") is cheap and common, while the deeper work — noticing your own automatic reactions in real time, tracing them to inherited paradigms, and tolerating the discomfort of updating — is rare and effortful. 

[Leo Gura]

@Rafael Thundercat Yes, bigotry is just unconscious survival.

Bigotry is ubiquitous because it is so convenient to demonize whatever you don't understand.

If you don't demonize your enemies, then you have to actually do the work to live with them, to understand their humanity, their Divinity.

Bigotry is ultimately the denial of universal Divinity. If you acknowledged the Divinity in all, then you could not kill, rape, steal, or enslave them.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[integration journey]

Leo when are you going to do a survival blog yourself instead of just watching them on YouTube? 

[Anonym]

Loving your insights Leo

[Leo Gura]

19 minutes ago, integration journey said:

Leo when are you going to do a survival blog yourself instead of just watching them on YouTube? 

I will not because my health is not good.

[integration journey]

14 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I will not because my health is not good.

❤️

[Anonym]

Leo if you could rewrote Hammurabi, what would be your top 1-3? Assuming the last one would be a defect to avoid dogmatism

[Leo Gura]

24 minutes ago, Anonym said:

Leo if you could rewrote Hammurabi, what would be your top 1-3? Assuming the last one would be a defect to avoid dogmatism

I am not a lawmaker. That's different from spiritual work.

[Anonym]

Touche