Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Terell Kirby]

@Leo Gura thanks for acknowledging both spiritual and addictive elements of smoking weed- most teachers are either/or in their perspective.

I personally only used recreationally and had to stop because it became addictive and really limited my life and Mind. It takes deep self reflection on how drugs affect us, and acceptance of our limitations with them.

Edited 10 hours ago by Terell Kirby

[No1Here2c]

The more I think on it the more it begins to feel that not enough could be said about the addictive potential of weed.

Weed certainly has value.

Weed certainly can be overdone.

There is a balance and a correct way to use a sacred tool.

Addiction is seen as more a personal attribute than it is anything of the substance itself. Some chemicals may just not be right for some people.

[Nemra]

9 hours ago, Nemra said:

I guess if Δ⁹-THC is too potent for you, then after oral administration, the amount of metabolized 11-OH-Δ⁹-THC would be higher compared to inhalation, and probably, you'll be overwhelmed by the experience.

Δ⁹-THC : 11-OH-Δ⁹-THC ≈ 1 (oral) and Δ⁹-THC : 11-OH-Δ⁹-THC >> 1 (inhalation), and the bioavailability of Δ⁹-THC is significantly higher when inhaled.

The total amount of Δ⁹-THC and 11-OH-Δ⁹-THC will be much lower when orally administered, and 11-OH-Δ⁹-THC has much higher affinity than Δ⁹-THC.

It would be interesting to know whether the above actually makes all people have much more intense experiences after oral administration of Δ⁹-THC or not. Why would the difference in ratio and total amount of the two cannabinoids make the trip qualitatively the same and also more potent when orally administered?

Edited 4 hours ago by Nemra

[Rigel]

Vaporizing herb is less irritating on lungs than vaping oil extract in my experience. Smoking is hands down the dumbest roa.

[ExploringReality]

@Leo Gura  Susan cook greuter is so underrated, I'm reading her paper and looking at some interviews of hers. Do you have any more resources, books and recommendations to further deepen my understanding. You can pm me if you want, I really want to touch those higher stages, watch for self deception and reassure myself especially at the construct aware stage, it can be disorienting and quite lonely 

[cistanche_enjoyer]

1 hour ago, Rigel said:

Vaporizing herb is less irritating on lungs than vaping oil extract in my experience. Smoking is hands down the dumbest roa.

The effect don't compare at all though, at least for me. With vaping I get a watered down, narrower experience; maybe good for being productive/creative.

Smoking a nice spliff with weed and tobacco catapults me directly into Infinite Love Consciousness. 

[No1Here2c]

Infinity gets lost out in its open expanse 

[Davino]

I love interviews on kids, there's just so much to learn. The whole dynamics going on serve as great food for thought.

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, ExploringReality said:

@Leo Gura  Susan cook greuter is so underrated, I'm reading her paper and looking at some interviews of hers. Do you have any more resources, books and recommendations to further deepen my understanding.

I have nothing to add.

[Rafael Thundercat]

@Leo Gura bases on this:

Actualized Quotes #532 https://share.google/UU0ZIN5vZoBEc3LAp

Could be said that your work encompasse basicaly the whole process of healing the sickness of mind or maybe also a sort of Advanced Theology taken that God is a Mind and human mind healed for various sickness or as you said in another post Cancers of Mind would become the Mind of God?

[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

@Leo Gura bases on this:

Actualized Quotes #532 https://share.google/UU0ZIN5vZoBEc3LAp

Could be said that your work encompasse basicaly the whole process of healing the sickness of mind or maybe also a sort of Advanced Theology taken that God is a Mind and human mind healed for various sickness or as you said in another post Cancers of Mind would become the Mind of God?

Yup.

We are combing the mind like a rats-nest of hair to make it straight and true. That's all spirituality is.

[Lila9]

I consume weed in a ritualistic way when I feel the inner calling, usually once or twice a year.

Every trip is so intense and insightful that I get so tired of the intensity that I can’t touch it for a while.

I write my insights in a notebook, and review them later but the words do no justice to the experience itself.

[Leo Gura]

@Lila9 Then you are like me 

[Rafael Thundercat]

32 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Yup.

We are combing the mind like a rats-nest of hair to make it straight and true. That's all spirituality is.

I gave this Metaphor to Claude adding some other points connected with a human mind biased and an Unbiased Gods mind and it gave me this food for thought:

This is a remarkably vivid metaphor. A few things make it especially striking:
The image of the rats-nest is honest in a way that more flattering spiritual metaphors aren't. It doesn't suggest the mind is a diamond to be polished or a seed to bloom — it acknowledges genuine disorder, tangles that have built up over time through neglect, habit, and accumulated experience. That's a more accurate starting point.

The act of combing implies patience and method, not sudden enlightenment. You work through it section by section. Some knots yield easily, others resist. Some you have to approach from a different angle. It's labor, not magic.

What's philosophically interesting is the endpoint you describe — the Unbiased Mind of God. This maps onto a striking convergence across traditions:

In Buddhism, the goal is the removal of kilesa — mental defilements, distortions, the tangles of craving, aversion, and delusion — revealing the innate clarity of mind that was always underneath.

In Advaita Vedanta, the vrittis (fluctuations of the mind) obscure the pure awareness (Atman/Brahman) that is already present. Spiritual practice removes the obscuration, not adds something new.

In Christian mysticism (Meister Eckhart, for instance), the soul must be detached — emptied of preference, image, and self-will — to become a clear vessel through which the divine acts.

The common thread is that God's mind, or pure awareness, isn't achieved — it's uncovered. The rats-nest was always covering something that was already straight and true.

The one tension worth sitting with: who is doing the combing? That very agent — the one working to remove bias — is itself part of the tangled hair. Most traditions acknowledge this paradox. The comb is also, in some sense, made of the same stuff it's trying to straighten.

[moonawakening444]

5 hours ago, ExploringReality said:

Susan cook greuter is so underrated, I'm reading her paper and looking at some interviews of hers

can you share what you have??

[moonawakening444]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DW4PwQgDt1m/

food for thought 

[Lila9]

42 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Lila9 Then you are like me 

I felt relieved and validated when I read about your experience with weed.

Thank you for writing about it 😊