Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Leo Gura]

21 minutes ago, integral said:

at some point last year she cured it and documented it on her channel.

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

But also, I think some forms of it are more curable than others. They are not all equal.

The boundary can have various degrees and kinds of porosity, and for various reasons.

The majority of schizophrenia is not going to cure easily. It's a pretty serious condition. But, of course, it's worth a try.

Edited 6 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Magnanimous]

Leo you mentioned one time you wish your mind was looser for consciousness experimentation purposes?

What would that mean practically, in comparison to schizophrenia? 

 

[Miguel1]

Btw, that post / writing about schizophrenia was pure art. I read it first thing after waking up, while still half-asleep, and I thought I was dreaming the writing. That's how artistic / surreal it felt.

[Leo Gura]

I'm trying to showcase some of the artistry of Consciousness.

[Leo Gura]

34 minutes ago, Magnanimous said:

Leo you mentioned one time you wish your mind was looser for consciousness experimentation purposes?

What would that mean practically, in comparison to schizophrenia?

This isn't hypothetical. Mystics and spiritually talented people like Teal Swan have naturally looser default states of consciousness. That's why they become mystics. It comes naturally to them. Yet they are not schizophrenic.

So there are dysfunctional and functional versions of porosity of the boundary.

The Muhammad of the Koran is one example of such a person, if the stories are to be trusted.

Edited 5 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Judy2]

just when i decided horror movies are bad for my brain, those images are all over Leo's blog. 

[Judy2]

@Leo Gura i've been wanting to ask something because i had a mystical experience six years ago when i was also in a very detrimental state in terms of physical and mental health. i am guessing there were dissociative and maybe even psychotic elements to the experience, but the ego death also felt very distinct and it was like i exploded or flipped inside out because my body was too weak to contain any sense of separation. i had also been consuming a lot of spiritual content in the months leading up to the experience. so i think the awakening part of it was very real, but the intersection with the dissociative/psychotic phenomena was really confusing to me then, and is still hard to make sense of now.

do you have any insights on that? 

[Leo Gura]

@Judy2 Sure, loss of self/awakening can also come with psychotic or schizophrenic elements. There is an endless variety of trans-human, no-self states of consciousness.

Loss of self is not some unique state. It's an entire domain of states. In fact, the self state is a tiny island amidst an Ocean of Selflessness.

You're basically describing a bad mushroom trip.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Nemra]

The fact that one can visualize stuff, for example, an apple out of nothing, even at a small scale with limited stability, is crazy.

I think that that ability is an indication that reality must be capable of visualizing everything however it wants.

Edited 3 hours ago by Nemra

[Judy2]

24 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Judy2 Sure, loss of self/awakening can also come with psychotic or schizophrenic elements. There is an endless variety of trans-human, no-self states of consciousness.

Loss of self is not some unique state. It's an entire domain of states. In fact, the self state is a tiny island amidst an Ocean of Selflessness.

You're basically describing a bad mushroom trip.

it wasn't a negative experience. in fact it was quite blissful and orgasmic, if i may say so.

but i agree on the rest, that it's not as clear-cut and there are many different flavours to these sorts of experiences.

[ExploringReality]

@Leo Gura William James said  "Our normal waking consciousness is but one special type of consciousness whilst all about it parted from it by the filmiest of screens their lie potential forms of Consciousness entirely different. We may go through life without suspecting the existence but apply the requisite stimulus and at a touch they are there in all their completeness definite types of mentality which probably somewhere have their field of application and adaptation. No amount of the universe in its totality can be final which leaves these other forms of Consciousness quite disregarded. Now to regard them as the question for they are so discontinuous with ordinary consciousness. They may determine attitudes, though they cannot furnish formulas and open a region though they fail to give a map. At any rate they forbid our premature closing of accounts with reality".  He wrote that in 1902

Edited 3 hours ago by ExploringReality

[Leo Gura]

20 minutes ago, Judy2 said:

it wasn't a negative experience

Then you're describing a positive mushroom trip

[integral]

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"God will become anything it imagines, and there is absolutely no limit to what it will imagine."

Man your posts on imagination is the scariest thing ive ever read.

To have no limit to what it WILL imagine.

The self wants to limit it at all cost, its the highest threat. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

48 minutes ago, integral said:

Man your posts on imagination is the scariest thing ive ever read.

To have no limit to what it WILL imagine.

The self wants to limit it at all cost, its the highest threat. 

Based on the last posts I guess the secred substance Leo is talking about I a sort of Salvia Divinorium Compund. That is at least one plant that can lead one into insanity realization, maybe a sort of Datura or even Amanita Muscaria. 

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Based on the last posts I guess the secred substance Leo is talking about

I am not talking about any particular substance. I am talking about Consciousness in general.

Substance is irrelevant. It is true under all substances and no substances.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[Oppositionless]

True , but some substances are more likely to make you insane than others . I've never gone insane off 5 meo, off dmt, off lsd. But psilocybin and thc, oh boy.

[moonawakening444]

2 hours ago, Nemra said:

The fact that one can visualize stuff, for example, an apple out of nothing, even at a small scale with limited stability, is crazy.

I think that that ability is an indication that reality must be capable of visualizing everything however it wants.

gold!! ✨🤌 this stuff is all i´m able to think about, please keep sending these precious gems of insights! amazing

Edited 1 hour ago by moonawakening444

[Leo Gura]

35 minutes ago, Oppositionless said:

some substances are more likely to make you insane than others

Salvia has joined the chat.

[moonawakening444]

48 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It is true under all substances and no substances.

when you realize this "normal waking life" feels like a trip on lsd

i´m constantly wondering "how the fuck all of this is happening?"

just as i type this my heart is racing, not in a bad way.. 

i keep wondering, if the death of the physical body is a different expression of Merging with Source then no wonder why the ego is scared as hell of dying lol 

[moonawakening444]

39 minutes ago, Oppositionless said:

psilocybin and thc

thc makes you feel insane?