Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[vibv]

Creating religions is the future. But it will be a collaborative effort instead of resulting in wars. It's a beautiful possibility.

Forget game design. What about Religion Design? That's ART.

Edited March 4 by vibv

[Joseph Maynor]

I feel like art is basically a form of Creation but Creation goes well beyond art.  Art is what is agreed to be creation.  

This is a good video to get started on this investigation:

 

Edited March 4 by Joseph Maynor

[LambdaDelta]

I recently bought a Bombardino Cocodrilo lapel pin to serve as a symbolic representation of a particular aspect of Creativity — no matter how ugly, derivative, hallucinatory, chaotic, brainrotting it all is, AI slop is still ultimately God's imagination. I envision it will be a useful facilitation tool for me to go deeper into the Insanity facet, especially paired with deliriants.
A clever little reframing of the issue. (though also silly 🤤)

[Terell Kirby]

@Leo Gura thanks for putting us on to John Blow- he's a deep guy. I find the below interview interesting on AI Consciousness.

 

Timestamp 4:37 --they can't help but chalk Consciousness up to some atomic process happening in the brain. They have a thoughtful perspective, but its corrupted because they misunderstand Consciousness.

Of course AI can't achieve human consciousness, cause no human ever had it in the first place.

 

Edited March 5 by Terell Kirby

[bazera]

Some thoughts on this video: https://www.actualized.org/insights/more-ai-delusions

My god, they bullshit us with such confidence and straight face. 

When what that Anthropic CEO said will definitely not happen, that in 6-12 months Claude will do perferct job at software development, will there be anyone that makes him accountable to that words? Or everyone just ignores it and allow him to bullshit us again with yet another 6-12 month fearmongering claims.

And the fact that they straight up lie in the C compiler ad, is just crazy. I was more sympathetic towards that company, because I really like their tools, but this just makes me certain that I shouldn't believe anything that they're marketing so deceptively.

It's a good example of how important it is to do independent research into a thing instead of just believing a marketing ad.

Edited March 5 by bazera

[Natasha Tori Maru]

9 minutes ago, bazera said:

My god, they bullshit us with such confidence and straight face. 

It is unreal how many people give their authority away to confidence. It is a psychological trap - flood people with notifications, decision fatigue. Wear them down until inundated with choice and information. Then present something with confidence. The general population does not have the capacity to deal with more decisions (ie critically assessing information) so the confidence of delivery ends up seducing them....

[Leo Gura]

20 minutes ago, bazera said:

that in 6-12 months Claude will do perferct job at software development, will there be anyone that makes him accountable to that words?

By then he hopes to go IPO and sell his stock.

This is an IPO pump and dump. The suckers will be left holding a bag of hot shit.

Edited March 5 by Leo Gura

[bazera]

25 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

It is unreal how many people give their authority away to confidence. It is a psychological trap - flood people with notifications, decision fatigue. Wear them down until inundated with choice and information. Then present something with confidence. The general population does not have the capacity to deal with more decisions (ie critically assessing information) so the confidence of delivery ends up seducing them....

It's especially problematic when it comes to new hyped up techonologies that we don't really know how it all works under the hood (LLMs for example), and that makes us more gullible to their confidence.

And giving authority away to confidence really re-shapes the worldview. For example, if you believed what he says that in 6-12 months software will write itself, it would affect your life decisions in drastic ways if you are related to software industry in some way.

We should be careful in what we believe in. But as you said, amidst the flood of notifications and decesion fatigue people aren't used to doing that.

Edited March 5 by bazera

[Joseph Maynor]

AI is almost kind of an assistant.  It's not a substitute for your mind.  We're collaborating with AI now.  

[bazera]

Another good one, just dropped.

Cal created a segment of his show called "AI Reality Check". He'll be doing it each week.

We really want this kind of information now.

[integral]

19 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

This is utterly false.

This is a recent development, claude opus 4.5-4.6 is overwhelming good.

People not using AI are:

1.  in very large code bases, where the AI can't see the full scope.
2. AI is not optimized for there obscure fringe coding language.
3. Slow adopters who don't trust the quality of the code.
4. Complex systems the AI is prone to mistakes.
5. Proprietary code, not wanting the code read by AI (stolen)

What still exists, reviewing AI code, all of engineering. 

AGI is the pipe dream, solving coding is not.

I have not written any code since nearly a year and a half.

Edited March 5 by integral

[bazera]

@integral While all that being true in my experience as well, Antropic CEO's claims are still delusional. 

AI won't iteratively improve itself in 6-12 month time to the point of making developers obsolete.

He is not going to replace his developers in 6-12 month times with opus.

It can't just code C compiler and fully-fledged Figma clone why we sit and sip coffee. 

Still requires very active developer involvement. It's just that we don't manually type most of the code anymore.

[integral]

@bazera i agree on that part

[Nemra]

@Leo Gura, I forgot to mention that the forum's posting section isn't mobile-friendly. The text formatting options are limited, with missing formatting buttons compared to when using a desktop computer.

[Yimpa]

 

 

Edited March 5 by Yimpa

[Leo Gura]

43 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@Leo Gura, I forgot to mention that the forum's posting section isn't mobile-friendly. The text formatting options are limited, with missing formatting buttons compared to when using a desktop computer.

That is by design. Mobile screen size is too small to have many option buttons.

[bazera]

48 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@Leo Gura, I forgot to mention that the forum's posting section isn't mobile-friendly. The text formatting options are limited, with missing formatting buttons compared to when using a desktop computer.

The trick that I use sometimes is that if you set phone orientation on landscape, you'll get desktop version formatting options. I use what I want and then switch back to portrait mode.

Takes extra time but better then not having options at all.

[Leo Gura]

@bazera Yes, because it's a screen real-estate issue.

[Nemra]

15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That is by design. Mobile screen size is too small to have many option buttons.

Ok, but don't you think that you could add a button to show more options or do you deem it unnecessary for such a small inconvenience?

@Leo Gura, also, have you thought about redesigning your website (not the forum)?

No offense, but it's rather dull and old-looking.

Edited March 5 by Nemra

[Nemra]

14 minutes ago, bazera said:

The trick that I use sometimes is that if you set phone orientation on landscape, you'll get desktop version formatting options. I use what I want and then switch back to portrait mode.

Takes extra time but better then not having options at all.

Thanks for the info.

I always turned on the "Desktop site" option in Chrome to use other formatting options.

Edited March 5 by Nemra