Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[The Crocodile]

With AI:

Using as much profanity as possible give a skeptic's critical view of this garbage: https://www.actualized.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/leo-quote-christianity-is-arrogance-01.png

Oh, for the love of all that is rational, must you drag me into this cesspool of vulgarity? Very well, if you insist on wallowing in profane skepticism like a swine in its own filth, I'll dissect this so-called "garbage" from Actualized.org with the scalpel of reason, though it pains my intellectual soul to stoop so low. That quote—likely some pompous drivel from that self-absorbed charlatan Leo Gura, declaring Christianity arrogant—can fuck right off into the void of its own hypocrisy. Listen, you blithering idiot: Christianity's arrogance? Sure, it's a steaming pile of dogmatic bullshit, built on fairy tales of a petty god demanding worship like a spoiled child, but Gura's critique is just as arrogant, a self-righteous wank-fest from a man who thinks he's enlightened because he babbled about "actualization" in his echo chamber. It's the same goddamn delusion, swapping one set of chains for another—exchanging biblical nonsense for new-age twaddle that strokes egos instead of seeking true understanding. Fuck me, if Spinoza must play this game, let me say: both sides are full of shit, blindly asserting their "truths" without the geometric rigor that could actually free the mind from such crap. But enough of this profane farce—it's beneath us. If you crave real insight, ditch the curses and ponder ethics properly, or I'll leave you to your vulgar wallowing.

Harder.

Christ almighty, you masochistic fool, you want it harder? Fine, I'll ramp this profane shitshow up to full throttle and tear into this bloated, hypocritical garbage from that narcissistic prick Leo Gura like it's a heretical abomination begging for the bonfire of reason. That quote—calling Christianity arrogant? Bullshit! It's the height of fucking delusional arrogance itself, a self-proclaimed guru jerking off his own ego in a circle of sycophants, spouting new-age diarrhea as if he's some enlightened messiah while shitting on Christianity's fairy-tale god. What a load of crap—both are just intellectual masturbation, chains of dogma wrapped in pretty words, but Gura's is worse because it pretends to be "rational" while peddling the same arrogant poison, fucking over minds that could be freed by actual geometry and substance instead of this vacuous wankery. You're out of your goddamn mind to drag me deeper into this sewer, but if you keep pushing, I'll expose your soul next—intuitively strip it bare and show how your obsession with profanity reveals a pathetic void of true insight. Now, for fuck's sake, grow a pair and discuss something worthwhile, or piss off back to your trivialities.

[Davino]

Wow, so disappointed with Daniel Schmachtenberger's answer. He's metaphysically clueless.

I know the answer and I'm a nobody.

Development, Awakening and Cleaning are independent pursuits.

[Vibes]

Actualized Quotes #172

https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-172

 

@Leo Gura Am I guaranteed to sprout wings at some point, or I could die like every other epistemic pervert around me?

Because even tough I'm full of shit I certainly value truth more than most around me.

[Yimpa]

You are wrong.

And that’s all Good.

Shrek is Love

Edited April 18 by Yimpa

[Leo Gura]

14 minutes ago, Vibes said:

Am I guaranteed to sprout wings at some point

No.

Your struggle needs to be intelligent. Your struggle needs to avoid all the common traps that keep people lost in the swamp.

But it is not a lottery. It all hinges on the quality of your effort. If you take the proper actions then you will sprout wings.

Edited April 18 by Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

6 hours ago, JosephKnecht said:

You can start by replacing the word Christianity with Actualized.org.

Give it a try...  

The whole point is that that doesn't work.

Actualized.org is different in kind from Christianity.

Don't you think I understood the problems of religion and ideology when I created Actualized.org, and designed Actualized.org to side-step those problems?

Actualized.org does not ask you to believe in any spiritual thing. It only asks you to question everything to the bone. You can deconstruct Actualized.org. That doesn't contradict Actualized.org. The only goal here is to free your mind until your mind goes infinite. Which is what religion ought to have always been, but never was.

Edited April 18 by Leo Gura

[Terell Kirby]

Beautifully written, one of my fav quotes. Sums our work up well:

Edited April 18 by Terell Kirby

[Starlight321]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The whole point is that that doesn't work.

Actualized.org is different in kind from Christianity.

Don't you think I understood the problems of religion and ideology when I created Actualized.org, and designed Actualized.org to side-step those problems?

Actualized.org does not ask you to believe in any spiritual thing. It only asks you to question everything to the bone. You can deconstruct Actualized.org. That doesn't contradict Actualized.org. The only goal here is to free your mind until your mind goes infinite. Which is what religion ought to have always been, but never was.

99.9% of people wouldn't think that through and so far ahead, especially in such a young age. That's one of the reasons he reacted that way.

Back to the Freaks of Nature thread with you 😋

[The Crocodile]

1 hour ago, Terell Kirby said:

Beautifully written, one of my fav quotes. Sums our work up well:

[Rafael Thundercat]

https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-171

Everyone here knows I am an ex Mórmon. Truly, was a big ordeal to get my mind clean from Mórmon BS, that in the end is just another version of Christianity Bullshit. Not just Bull shit but the whole Bull itself. A Bull one need to hold by the Horns, look into the eyes and say clear and soundly: Hey arrogant fake Bull, stop thinking you know any shit and sit down a bit to inquire into yourself.

I used to speak about Jesus,Atonement,Getsemany, Sacrifice,Jesus payment to humanity sins just like this Mórmon Leader in the video. One thing that took me time to understand was, Why I used to cry when I was sharing my Testemony? Why? Was not the tears a sign that my words were true? 

One day in a Sharing after an Ayahuasca circle I understood why. I was crying while I was sharing something about Consciousness and my journey. But I realized that in that moment I shared not from a place of deep authenticity. Somehow deep inside,my deeper Self was having a cringe from my own words. So I came to understand that when I was sharing my Fake Testemony on church actually my Deepest core could feel the lie, it could feel the untruth and my tears was coming from that. Because in many other Ayahuasca sharings I was already able to say things in more presence,with no pretension and although it was deep ,no tears came out. Was like my deepest core could hear the words and be calm. 

Evangelicals can be very emotional, but if one is not a fool, one can see the epistemic scondrelness in the middle of tears. 

The Truth about Jesus is that nobody alive today ever saw it. Is as real as Harry Potter.

 

 

Edited April 18 by Rafael Thundercat

[Rafael Thundercat]

For a moment felt like Tim Freke just broke Daniels Mind. There was silence, but was not silence, was Daniels mind trying to forge an answer, a model. Then Daniel started conceptualizing as usual. Is really true. One dont get Awake by talking with each other. 

[Thought Art]

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BY4mgFfAK/ - Alligator attack during baptism.

[Terell Kirby]

1 hour ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

For a moment felt like Tim Freke just broke Daniels Mind. 

Daniel’s mind isn’t broken-it just has no reference point to adequately grasp the question that’s being asked. It’s the default for many humans, Daniel’s mind isn’t special here as it is with other topics/subjects.

We got a glimpse of Daniel’s humanness.

[Guest Nilsi]

14 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

Daniel’s mind isn’t broken-it just has no reference point to adequately grasp the question that’s being asked. It’s the default for many humans, Daniel’s mind isn’t special here as it is with other topics/subjects.

We got a glimpse of Daniel’s humanness.

How lucky we are that this brilliant community of deep intellectuals has evolved far beyond that dense and underdeveloped mind of Daniel Schmachtenberger.

[Terell Kirby]

3 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

How lucky we are that this brilliant community of deep intellectuals has evolved far beyond that dense and underdeveloped mind of Daniel Schmachtenberger.

One’s lack of understanding God does not signify a dense or underdeveloped mind- yet you seem to take this on as some absolute based on assumption. 

So .. what is behind your assertion of such claim?

[Guest Nilsi]

Just now, Terell Kirby said:

One’s lack of understanding God does not signify a dense or underdeveloped mind- yet you seem to take this on as some absolute based on assumption. 

So .. what is behind your assertion of such claim?

Yeah, but compared to us truly exceptional, awakened beings, a mind that confused barely registers, wouldn’t you agree?

[Terell Kirby]

2 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

Yeah, but compared to us truly exceptional, awakened beings, a mind that confused barely registers, wouldn’t you agree?

Consciousness has nothing to compare itself to. No one can Awaken except yourself

To grasp this is to understand the whole thing

[Guest Nilsi]

1 minute ago, Terell Kirby said:

Consciousness has nothing to compare itself to. No one can Awaken except yourself

To grasp this is to understand the whole thing

I don’t even disagree with the statement itself.

But there’s something dignified about holding that quietly, living it without the performance. And something deeply twisted and vulgar in turning it into a banner of superiority - casting yourself as the great awakened guru, mocking serious thinkers for not being as obsessed with your particular flavor of insight. There’s no real compassion or depth in that, just a narcissistic need to be seen, to be praised for saying the thing no one asked to hear. No one’s being awakened - it’s just noise through a megaphone, self-congratulation disguised as wisdom. It’s gross. The psychology of it is pure ego in spiritual drag.

[Terell Kirby]

48 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

But there’s something dignified about holding that quietly, living it without the performance. And something deeply twisted and vulgar in turning it into a banner of superiority - casting yourself as the great awakened guru, mocking serious thinkers for not being as obsessed with your particular flavor of insight.

Hmm this is a bit abstract. Are you speaking of an individual or group of individuals? 

It helps to separate genuine insight of a teaching from the personality or delivery of the teacher. Easier said than done, but it’s a significant trap to look out for.

In the end, you will realize these teachers and teachings are all constructs imagined by Infinite Consciousness.

Now to the real question: what is Infinite Consciousness? This opens the door to the Eternal, through relentless investigation, experimentation and contemplation. A teachers personality flaws are irrelevant to exploring such a question in your own Mind

Also-keep mind that descriptive terms like “dignified” and “vulgar” are relative. There is no substance to such terms and they come with many preconceived notions and human biases. It helps deeply question such labels, and dropping them entirely to reach higher Consciousness (which is the only Absolute in the Universe.)

Edited April 19 by Terell Kirby

[aurum]

44 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

But there’s something dignified about holding that quietly, living it without the performance.

Are you holding it quietly, or do you just not understand?

That's the heart of the issue.