Life is basically constant suffering if you are aware enough

[An young being]

Holding on to life with hope and taking time to look at why I am suffering might be a couple options to overcome intense  suffering. 

Most people who suffer intense physical pain become used or immune to it as time passes, but the sufferingmostly never goes away 100% unless the source of the pain disappears. Being dispassionate ( vairagya), meditation and mindfulness ( equanimous mind) can help overcome intense suffering. 

Nobody can escape suffering though, unless they are made of a combination of a pure selfless, egoless and an equanimous mind.

[LSD-Rumi]

10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Or, just not having any other option.

I live with physical pain every day, all day. Hard to even remember what no pain feels like.

What kind of pain are you having? muscles, abdomen, fatigue?

 

[Ishanga]

Physical Life for sure involves allot of Pain, Suffering is optional, as Suffering is mostly of the Mind, of Resistance and of Identification.. Pain of the Body for sure will happen, as I've gotten older, although I've never really had a major accident, because of my physical activities I have minor pain almost everyday, hip flexors get tight. and lower back issues, but I stretch everyday and do maintenance of it everyday and watch my activity closely, but there is pain at times, I've gotten use to it. 

We should use it as a Spiritual Practice, Spiritual meaning that aspect of You that is Non Physical in Nature, if You can have a Space btwn what is You and What is Not You, then the Pain will not cause Suffering, there is a difference btwn the Two... 

[Breakingthewall]

The end of suffering is possible and it is obvious. we talk about self-inflicted suffering, contraction, anxiety, lack. It is a process of restructuring the psyche until reaching what they call enlightenment.

Enlightenment is nothing other than being what you are, clean of the layers of the psyche, which are given in a programmed, genetic way, and are reinforced throughout life by its circumstances. Enlightenment is the total openness to being, to existence, which implies disidentification in great extent with the human pattern. I am not there, but I can get out of the human pattern with some ease, which was impossible before, so I suppose that in the future it will be even easier.

Outside the human pattern, without contraction, existence is free and is complete beauty and happiness, so the most intelligent thing is to tend in that direction, especially thinking about the possibility, quite possible, that there will be karmic continuity in future cycles.

[Water by the River]

13 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

That bliss might be accessed in the absence of ego I guess ?

Yes.

The ego/separate-self is literally a self-contraction, normally felt in the head. That can drop away (making the field boundless and nondual) and with it all resistance to what is appearing (aka suffering). Restoring actually the real and unclouded "state of things", with brilliant clarity and lucidity and Sat-Chit-Ananda.

https://www.actualized.org/forum/search/?&q=self-contraction&author=Water by the River

Don't get blackpilled by suffering/resistance-is-unavoidable-aficionados. If these aficinados would have the capacity/tools/sobre-Awakening-skills/training to release this resistance (aka ego/separate-self), they would do it immediately.

Problem is just, they literally ARE or feel themselves to be that resistance/ego/self-contraction, and don't have enough training in releasing that, aka meditation, or are unwilling to finally let go of the contraction-bug).

So it would need a transcendence/differentiation/death from the former self - including too a large part its original Raison d'être, which can correspond to something along these lines:

So what gets these self-contractions-on-two-feet to actually transcend the self-contraction anyway, and return to righ here-right now True Being? If its not practice/meditation (and the resulting awakened states, aka the carrot), its more suffering (the stick). Or, actually, too much suffering for the separate-self gig to continue its current pet-project, since that didn't deliver enough relieve from the self-contraction. As no pet-project actually does in the end.

Timeline: This life or the next. Nobody gets left in Samsara forever.

But It ain't over till the fat lady sings, and we are on site called Actualized.org, aren't we?

So it seems its game on for the next crash and burn (which may be as least serious as possible) and wise-up chapter (which may come as fast as possible and be as lovely as possible) in this lovely & epic heroes-journey 

 

Selling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero's_journey by the River

"In narratology and comparative mythology, the hero's journey, also known as the monomyth, is the common template of stories that involve a hero who goes on an adventure, is victorious in a decisive crisis, and comes home changed or transformed."

PS: Lets seen in July 2025 how the stars have aligned.

[Water by the River]

12 hours ago, BlessedLion said:

Didn’t the Buddha say life is suffering? 

shhh.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persona_non_grata

[Sugarcoat]

4 hours ago, creativepursuit said:

Have you tried consciously choosing to suffer? That suffering doesn't feel the same somehow.

No

[Inliytened1]

@Sugarcoat it's the other way around.  Fear and anxiety which leads to suffering mostly stems from the unknown and uncertainty.    

[Sugarcoat]

4 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@Sugarcoat it's the other way around.  Fear and anxiety which leads to suffering mostly stems from the unknown and uncertainty.    

Isn’t the self resisting those things tho so that’s the suffering 

[Javfly33]

Life is not constant suffering, how we manage Life (basically our Thoughts, emotions, body, energies) is all that we know about Life.

If you don't have a good management of this ones, one is bound to suffer.

At the other hand, if one knows how to manage them, one can feel blissful even in the most mundane tasks.

Thats how It works, if within works well, everything feels well. If within works bad, everything feels bad.

 

Edited July 2, 2024 by Javfly33