Jews genocide

[Danioover9000]

@Nivsch

1 minute ago, Nivsch said:

@Karmadhi Your reasoning is wrong because murder doesnt equal collateral damage.

By your logic, Great Britian did a Genocide to Nazi Germany in ww2.

@Karmadhi

Keep supporting Amalek.

3 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

So did the Palestinians. The number of Palestinians dead is 10-20x more than Israelis through the decades.

In 2014 alone they killed like 1500 civilians and they lost like 6 civilians themselves.

That act alone is enough to want them to commit October 7th.

And that is just 1 out of many times Isarel did such things.

2014 Gaza War - Wikipedia

 

@Nemra

Proof of Moloch worshipers.

7 minutes ago, Nemra said:

The only thing that is harmful for Jews are toxic conspiracy theories in all countries, which still have a great impact on how people think about Jews. And the current situation makes it worse.

Apparently, Jews use that to justify their government's actions.

   It's alt right wing Zionism actually. Real Jews and Rabbis some even have compassion and oppose Zionists to this day.

[Karmadhi]

Just now, Nivsch said:

Your reasoning is wrong because murder doesnt equal collateral damage.

By your logic, Great Britian did a Genocide to Nazi Germany in ww2.

What Britain did is a war crime by 2024 standards.

The issue is that you like to use different timelines to justify atrocities.

What UK did to Germany during WW2 would be considered an unacceptable war crimes, especially the bombing of Dresden and to some extent Hamburg.

But in 2014, we use different standards and the same tactics are totally unacceptable and horrible.

Just some food for thought: What Hamas did in Israel on October 7th used to be textbook military practice for most of human history. When armies invaded villages and towns that is exactly what they did, what Hamas did. 

However in 2024, we call that horrible acts and terrorism because with our current moral framework such actions are not acceptable.

Also what UK did to Germany at the time was textbook military practice (Germany did the same to the UK prior) but today it is not acceptable.

So when I hear people like Naftali Bennet justify Israel current indiscriminate bombings by saying "UK did it also", well UK also did what Hamas did at some point in the past. Lets justify that too now.

See the issue with that reasoning?

[Leo Gura]

14 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

@Karmadhi hamas = the armed terrorists.

Hamas is much broader thing than armed terrorists.

That's like saying that every Israeli government employee is IDF.

There are many people who your government considers "Hamas" but who are just peaceful bureaucrats and civilians who administer the governmental duties of Gaza. In the same way that there are many Israelis who work for the government and have no involvement with military operations.

The sad thing is that the IDF will consider a maid who cleans the floor in a government building in Gaza as a Hamas terrorist. Since she is technically employed by Hamas.

Your own government has a much broader notion of Hamas than "armed terrorists", precisely so they can kill more Palestinians.

Edited March 28 by Leo Gura

[Nivsch]

@Karmadhi In 2024 there are also super sophisticated gerilla organization what wasn't in 1944.

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[zazen]

 

''Human Rights Groups: Israel is committing grave Human Rights violations

US: We don’t think they are

Experts in International Law: Israel is breaking International Law, including International Humanitarian Law

US: We don’t think they are

The ICJ: Israel is plausibly committing genocide, stop arming them now or you will be complicit

US: We don’t think they are

The UN: This ceasefire motion is binding for all UN members

US: We don’t think it is

When ignorant US politicians reject the world’s experts on everything they claim to stand for, simply to facilitate war crimes on behalf of a colonial outpost, how can anyone with even a tiny shred of morality or intellectual integrity support these charlatans and this festering, blood-soaked charade?''

 

 

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[Karmadhi]

5 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

In 2024 there are also super sophisticated gerilla organization what wasn't in 1944.

And you have precise weapons and guided missles drones etc which you did not have in 1944.

Ask yourself: How did Israel manage to strike precisely a Hamas guy in Beirut, with minimal civilians casualties.

During World war 2 an entire block would have had to be destroyed to take out that guy.

So it is not just the guerlla stuff that has advanced but also striking precision technology.

I saw footage of Isarel taking out a single floor in a building and keeping the rest intact.

So spare me the excuses please.

Most of the bombs used in Gaza are reported to be unguided.

They admitted themselves "We are aiming for maximum destruction, not accuracy".

I trust their words there because you can see it yourself.

Most of Gaza is in ruins now.

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[Nivsch]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Hamas is much broader thing than armed terrorists.

That's like saying that the every Israeli government employee is IDF.

Speaking on ideology yes.

I meant to the ones who are considered as the operational targets.

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[Karmadhi]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The sad thing is that the IDF will consider a maid who cleans the floor in a government building in Gaza as a Hamas terrorist.

This explains Israel saying "We have killed 10.000 Hamas" and then US saying 25.000 women and childreen have been killed, both statements being true at the same time.

Nice Leo 

[Nemra]

9 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

It's alt right wing Zionism actually. Real Jews and Rabbis some even have compassion and oppose Zionists to this day.

What's twisted is that there are a lot of people who think that Jews are fundamentally Zionists. At least in my country.

[Nivsch]

11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The sad thing is that the IDF will consider a maid who cleans the floor in a government building in Gaza as a Hamas terrorist. Since she is technically employed by Hamas.

How do you know this is really the case in the policy level?

What can you as a soldier do when you know that hamas will necessarily disguise itself to civilians all the time?

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[royce]

23 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Hamas is much broader thing than armed terrorists.

That's like saying that every Israeli government employee is IDF.

There are many people who your government considers "Hamas" but who are just peaceful bureaucrats and civilians who administer the governmental duties of Gaza. In the same way that there are many Israelis who work for the government and have no involvement with military operations.

The sad thing is that the IDF will consider a maid who cleans the floor in a government building in Gaza as a Hamas terrorist. Since she is technically employed by Hamas.

Your own government has a much broader notion of Hamas than "armed terrorists", precisely so they can kill more Palestinians.

Is the guy whose city was destroyed and his family and friends killed, and the lucky of them  was left wounded or hungry, and carried  RBG in Front  cannons, aircraft, and Merkavas , is a terrorist? thats so strange leo !   

[Nivsch]

@Karmadhi You have to kill 40,000+ hamas terrorists in this war. How technological-intelligence accuracy abillities will help so much in that?

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[Nivsch]

4 minutes ago, royce said:

Is the guy whose city was destroyed and his family and friends killed, and the lucky of them  was left wounded or hungry, and carried  RBG in Front  cannons, aircraft, and Merkavas , is a terrorist? thats so strange leo !   

😂 Poor SS officer in ww2. He didn't want to kill Jews at all. Just to deffent himself, and look what the Great Britian do to him.

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[Leo Gura]

24 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

I meant to the ones who are considered as the operational targets.

The IDF is very loose in who they consider as Hamas specifically for operational targets. Because they want to target as wide as they can get away with.

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How do you know this is really the case in the policy level?

It's clearly the case if you look at the kind of strikes and attacks that the IDF does.

If there's even a hint that someone is associated with Hamas, they are bombed. The IDF has assassinated many Gazan journalists because "Hamas". These journalists are bombed simply because they report in ways which isn't favorable to the Zionist agenda. This is a war crime.

22 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

What can you as a soldier do when you know that hamas will necessarily disguise itself to civilians all the time?

What you do is, you don't fire on people unless they are armed and posing an immediate threat to you.

IDF operating procedure is to fire first and ask questions later.

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[Karmadhi]

6 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

You have to kill 40,000+ hamas terrorists in this war. How technological-intelligence accuracy abillities will help so much in that?

So it also justifies Hamas killing civilians in their goal to destroy Isarel military?

Keep in mind 1/3 of October 7th deaths were legitimate IDF staff, not just civilians.

Also many civilians were killed in the cross fire.

There were tons of specific striking of civilians by Hamas, but at this point IDF has been doing the same so I dont think they are much better anymore.

Many videos of them doing so.

Shooting at people in line to get aid too.

They killed like 120 civilians trying to get aid, that act alone is on par with the Hamas concert attack in terms of scale and cruelty.

 

Edited March 28 by Karmadhi

[royce]

6 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

😂 Poor SS officer in ww2. He didn't want to kill Jews at all. Just to deffent himself.

i read some of your replays and you are so biased , and thats so bad ,  you are here from 2019 ! bro forget thats you are from israel put your emotions away and look at the big picture , actulize a little bit

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[Nivsch]

@Karmadhi hamas goal is to destroy civilians lives....

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

Poor SS officer in ww2. He didn't want to kill Jews at all. Just to deffent himself

Military officers are always fair game in a war. That's not the problem.

[Nivsch]

@royce You don't have to read who you think is biased. Make your own claims.

[royce]

1 minute ago, Nivsch said:

@royce You don't have to read who you think is biased. Make your own claims.

okey but you are so biased