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18 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

So you agree with Bibi then that there can’t be a Palestinian state or Jews will lose everything. Look at you bro you are a zio hehe

Look past a few days into the consequences of actions for once in your life 

Jews will keep what they always had. Minority status in Palestine. Where they weren't treated like rats to be exterminated in your continent. They will have to learn how to be grateful 

The Jews having their own country was always a wet dream for the Jews and a trojan horse for destabilizing the region for the Westerners. Everyone who knows the history of the Jews knows they can't be trusted to govern. They are built to be minorities 

Btw bibi will be the first to abandon Israel. He will retire in Miami or your country 

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24 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

Look past a few days into the consequences of actions for once in your life 

Jews will keep what they always had. Minority status in Palestine. Where they weren't treated like rats to be exterminated in your continent. They will have to learn how to be grateful 

The Jews having their own country was always a wet dream for the Jews and a trojan horse for destabilizing the region for the Westerners. Everyone who knows the history of the Jews knows they can't be trusted to govern. They are built to be minorities

 

Inshallah? 👁️ 😈 


 

24 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

 Btw bibi will be the first to abandon Israel. He will retire in Miami or your country 

No we won’t take him. He is a smelly queef and has a arrest warrant by the ICC. He can go to Poland maybe.

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1 hour ago, Raze said:

Israel was building settlements to make a state impossible years before Hamas was even founded 

No contradiction here. Years of terror pushed Israelis to the right, but before oct7 most Israeli parties supported Two State Solution.

I am not trying to convince you of anything, just calmly saying the facts. You may believe it or not.

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2 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

No contradiction here. Years of terror pushed Israelis to the right, but before oct7 most Israeli parties supported Two State Solution.

I am not trying to convince you of anything, just calmly saying the facts. You may believe it or not.

The Arab peace initiative was on the table for decades. Every prime minister allowed settlement growth knowing it made a state impossible.

They agreed with two states in that they wanted Palestinians to be locked in bantustans for permanent occupation. Israelis never believed in self determination for Palestinians.

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@Raze 

The Arab peace initiative was first introduced in 2002 when during those years Israeli prime ministers offered the Palestinians proposals that included withdrawal to nearly 67' line with areas exchanges, partial evacuation of settlements and division of Jerusalem.

Rabin, Barak and Olmert governments kept building in those areas almost entirely inside the main Israeli population blocs near the Green line, areas that widely seen as part of a future agreement anyway.

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🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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1 hour ago, PurpleTree said:

No we won’t take him. He is a smelly queef and has a arrest warrant by the ICC. He can go to Poland maybe.

He gets standing ovations in USA. Probably because he ran their colony for them for so long

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1 hour ago, Nivsch said:

@Raze 

The Arab peace initiative was first introduced in 2002 when during those years Israeli prime ministers offered the Palestinians proposals that included withdrawal to nearly 67' line with areas exchanges, partial evacuation of settlements and division of Jerusalem.

Rabin, Barak and Olmert governments kept building in those areas almost entirely inside the main Israeli population blocs near the Green line, areas that widely seen as part of a future agreement anyway.

Why build anywhere near Palestinian land anyways? It's not like "Israel is crowded". Why not build settlement towns in Israel? Why build them anywhere close to the West Bank?

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What’s wrong with these settlers smh

Gosh and that hairstyle and clothing? 

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Spains President is such a Eurostud nahmean?

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On 9/22/2025 at 5:03 PM, Twentyfirst said:

Look past a few days into the consequences of actions for once in your life 

Jews will keep what they always had. Minority status in Palestine. Where they weren't treated like rats to be exterminated in your continent. They will have to learn how to be grateful 

The Jews having their own country was always a wet dream for the Jews and a trojan horse for destabilizing the region for the Westerners. Everyone who knows the history of the Jews knows they can't be trusted to govern. They are built to be minorities 

Btw bibi will be the first to abandon Israel. He will retire in Miami or your country 

It's antisemitic drivel like this which is barely beneath the surface that as a Jew makes me support Israel even more unapologetically. Eat shit.

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1 hour ago, hundreth said:

It's antisemitic drivel like this which is barely beneath the surface that as a Jew makes me support Israel even more unapologetically. Eat shit.

Prove me wrong. Justify your existence like you make Palestinians justify theirs

 

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The UN assembly walks out on Netanyahu, and he had to avoid the European airspace while flying to the US, as all countries are required to detain him by international law. Colombian president Gustavo Petro, in his speech, asks first and foremost to stop the ongoing genocide of Gaza, he says diplomacy was tried and didn't work, the problem of vetoes applied to highly agreed UN resolutions, and that it's time to defend Palestinian lives in any other way. 

 

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Protests in many major cities of Italy in support of Palestine.

Also in Liverpool, directed to the Labour Party's conference.

And many thousands in Berlin.

 

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Still a necessary war against the Axis powers of Iran, Russia, China etc, just executed with such a ham-fisted authoritarian approach, I don't think they could have done it any worse PR wise. It is like Israel has gone out of their way to make itself appear the evil villain here. I couldn't have written a script where they did a better job. A bit like Russia hitting civilians every week, only worse if that's at all possible, which apparently it is.

What a world we live in.

People ask me why the 90s were better. At this point I don't answer them.

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Israelis (as always) tweets. This time about the new Trump-Netanyahu deal.

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🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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In my opinion, after giving it endless thought and watching thousands of videos from each side, I would say that Israel's attitude has been simply perfect.

It was absolutely necessary to show real strength, absolute determination. To show the world that Israel is a rock that cannot be moved with force. If you try, the consequences will be devastating. No more nonsense. Israel is here to stay. Enough of this nonsense from governments advocating for Israel's disappearance. Now, this is completely clear. We are going to talk and reach an agreement.

Palestinians, do you want to live a life or do you truly want to be martyrs for an impossible cause? If you want to live and look to the future, you can talk and reach an agreement. If you are going to promote hatred and martyrdom, remember Gaza. Simple and effective. Now all the Gulf countries are feigning indignation, but they feel respect, because it has been spoken in a language they understand. The future could be positive, but this was necessary. 

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@Breakingthewall I think that if the war in Gaza were to end at the beginning or at most mid of 2024 after the elimination of top hamas leaders (including Hezbollah and Iranian regime nuclear capabilities that were valid goals) would have shown enough strength already. 

From mid 2024 the continuation in Gaza did more harm than good let alone the problematic way this war is done by the Israeli government which was focused on destruction rather than focused only on hamas which would be the right approach.

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🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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6 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

@Breakingthewall I think that if the war in Gaza were to end at the beginning or at most mid of 2024 after the elimination of top hamas leaders (including Hezbollah and Iranian regime nuclear capabilities that were valid goals) would have shown enough strength already. 

From mid 2024 the continuation in Gaza did more harm than good let alone the problematic way this war is done by the Israeli government which was focused on destruction rather than focused only on hamas which would be the right approach.

I think that a point had to be reached where the population of Gaza deeply understood that the path we were following was a catastrophic mistake. Falling short in this demonstration would bring much more suffering and death than going even a little too far.

Reaching a lukewarm agreement would have ensured the resurgence of extremism. Demonstrating a willingness to go to the end could prevent extremism from finding a foothold in which to grow. But it's possible it will. Palestinians are tenacious in their victimhood. They are like vulnerable narcissists who take no responsibility and blame all their problems on others. Pathological narcissism is only cured by real trauma. Perhaps therapy has been enough. We'll see.

Another very important point has been bombing Iran. Just to showing that if Israel wants can collapse the whole country in a week without a single plane touched. All the Arabs country were watching, they pretended that was an equal battle, but deeply they know what happened. It's better for everyone be in good relationships, accept the situation, stop the obsession with Israel. Israel exist, period. 

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