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Have you ever done so much psychedelics that literally all of reality collapses into the primordial soup it originated from? That thing is already sentient. As reality reemerges from that state, you conclusively realize that sentience comes from this Urstoff and not some neurons in the brain. So there is no reason why AI shouldn't be able to become sentient.

@LSD-Rumi The inside of a neuron is also extremely complex. Maybe missing out on that complexity means missing out on sentience. There are also other arguments about things like embodiment. For example, we have never experienced being a brain in a vat. What if sentience requires being born in a body, developing sense organs, growing up and learning to respond to environmental inputs and relate to the world in some hands-on way?

Good questions. I had the exactly same problems/questions concerning Solipsism and Absolute Consciousness. The following are answers that can calm your mindstream to make you available for the Awakening, and they can speeden up the realization developed out of certain Awakenings/Koans. They are not "logical answers" that suffice on a logical/reasoning level alone, but can speeden the process of Awakening to these Koans that you state with your questions. > How can my consciousness be absolute when its not on a constant level Because you are the Nothingness/Consciousness that can unaware of itself when no experience or any arising-appearance is there. BUT with the potential for sentience. Which is the difference to IT just being nothing at all. This difference makes IT/You the opposite of nothing: Infinite Potential. If you need to have constant level of consciousness, you would have a problem: Deep Sleep. Where are you there? Have you stopped existing? Rather not.... The Real You can never not be there. The face before your parents were born.... literally. Also, that (potentially) Aware Infinite Reality that You are can be ignorant, or awake. It can have arisings (appearing/moving/being imagined) through it) of a spearate self in it, of an animal, or something like a world/Lila-reality creating angel in the Link below. And these arisings are empty, which means nothing else as not existing independend of You, outside of You, but imagined/manifested/moving within You/Reality. Not self-EX-isting, which means not standing out from the one Reality, but within it. Not existing without this Reality/Infinite Consciousness. It took me a looong time to really get why the Buddhist talk so much about Emptiness, and what they mean by it... And of course, to really get it, you need Awakenings. That is why most of the talk about emptiness can be .... rather empty. Did you ever dream to be something/someone completely different than your waking separate self? Did that hurt you? Or was it just a great adventure? The Real You can never gain or loose anything. How could you improve an Infinite (potentially) Sentient Reality that is infinite and absolutely formless, the One and infinite Only without a second, that can imagine/manifest anything it wants? You could say the content/show could be improved. But who wants that show? The Real You. Ignorance is only a bad idea from the perspective of ignorance (Francis Lucille). Could the Real You be hurt by the show? How? And is "anything"/any imagined arising permanent? Disclaimer: Guru Padmasambhava said, “My realization is higher than the sky. But my observance of karma is finer than grains of flour.” If a separate self thinks it can do what it wants without consequence, you will only suffer... Karma still holds. 100%. Reality is that smart....infinitely smart/intelligent. If the real You/Reality would be anything specific/an arising, or have any properties (besides being totally empty, infinite, with potential for sentience, and being able to imagine/manifest anything in itself and watching itself then, perceptions perceiving themselves with or without a separate self being imagined), wouldn't that limit You in what you could be/manifest/imagine? Any fear-arising when contemplating what You really are is just a protection meachnism of the illusion, of Lila. In truth, you are all you ever wish you could be. Eternally. For the full Realization of what You are, you have to be fully empty of any identification, all (!) separate self arising have to be seen trough, as moving in You. Not because you are nothing, but You are the Containing Reality for any being possible. Infinite. Able to create an Infinity of dimensions. Not a empty lacking emptiness/nothing, but a Full Emptiness of Infinite Potential. If any subtle self left-overs are still there and not transcended/seen through/made objects/arisings moving within you instead of subject/lenses you look through, you will project that on the Absolute Empty Reality that you are. These lenses will distort and colour your realization. How to notice that in an easy way? You still suffer.... > How can my consciousness be absolute and I omniscient when I dont know how and why I am imagining, I am not conscious about it. I dont know about me willingly imagining "Other" Perspectives/Beings: What did you do one year ago? Probably (as me), you forgot that (to be more precise: "I" can't imagine that right now). So you admit forgetting in time. The "other" perspectives/beings, you forget "in space" right now. If you fully understand the structure of your perspective, you would understand the structure of all other perspectives (please check my previous posts if you are interested). And any separation/boundary to any other "forgotten" perspective would just be an arising/appearance/boundary arising in you (so arising form, not you as Subject). So there can not be any real boundaries to the Absolute Subject/Consciousness that you are. >I dont know about me willingly imagining Reality/Dimension Creating/Sustaining Perspectives/Beings: Other perspectives of You that you forget right now do that. Volunteers of for example Stan Grofs Psychedelics Research programs, or those of RIck Strassman, report encountering these reality creating perspectives, for example: Angel is Christian-influenced. What "sits" in the center of the Buddhafields (Dimensions), managing it, in the Supreme Array Sutra? You guessed it probably: A kind of super-Buddha organizing that dimension. In Hinduism, it would be some kind of Vishnu. Infinite Dimension, infinite N+1 Dimension-Care-Takers... And an alien civilization in this Universe would call that instance/perspective maybe "'#24sfse2". So why not tend the flowers in your garden at home, and try to increase the love & wisdom in the mindstream of your invidual perspective, when you had a glimpse of this meta-structure of the Multiverse... instead of learning the "manifestation-mechanism-preferences/methods" of Vishnu Number 92742387423423.....? The "meta-structure" of manifestation, and the "Vishnus, Angel, Buddhafield-Buddha,..." running the dimensions can be generalized via something like n+1 (via https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_induction - style), if you are so inclined... Does that maybe resonate with you? >How can I be omnipotent and have a free will to imagine whatever I want at any moment when physical laws strictly determine Because what you think you are (separate self arisings in your perspective) is not all that which You are. Not the real You. And not all perspectives of the Real You. Physical laws are imagined by the real You and all "its" perspectives, constituting Indras Infinite Net, with a high level of consistency. Different to dreams at night, which are not so consistent. When you awaken to the real You, you will see that what You really are is exactly what Reality is and wants. The consistency of the laws of Reality of this Lila by the way make this saying very true if you want to be happy: "“My realization is higher than the sky. But my observance of karma is finer than grains of flour.” If you want to be happy, I am very sure, it is very important to take that serious. >My direct experience make it seem to be impossible that I am the entire Godhead who is omniscient and omnipotent, and that my direct experience is absolute Because what You really is not the separate self/separate self arisings in your mindstream. -> Awaken to what You really are. >There must be something "behind the scenes" like the Computers CPU which creates a Videogame. But I feel like a character in this Videogame who wonders what everything is and where it comes from without any control. An omniscient being would simultanously know how it creates experience and experiences, where I only experience. Only experience is nothing compared to an omniscient being. An omniscient being would also be conscious about the illusion, self-deception and forgetting See the link above. If you want to explore these mechanism, Psychedelics are probably the way to go. Or you can work on Awakening to what you really are. I would recommend putting an emphasize on the latter, but being interested in the former. Just for the sheer beauty of the understanding of it. >Supposing I become Awake and conscious about how I am imagining everything, why wasnt I conscious about the imagining process before Awakening if I am already omniscient right now? What did you do exactly one year and two days ago? I assume you forgot. So you can forget, or rather stop imagining that right now. In the same way, you can forget other perspectives of you. If you are that angel-perspective of the link above, apparently you can't be a human, at least not in the same moment. So enjoy that you can experience being a human! If that were not the case, You couldnt experience being human at all. You would miss that forever. Or in other words, you wouldn't exist, you (separate self) would be dead, not existing in the first place. I guess your separate self rather wouldn't want that. At least I enjoy the wonders of this planet earth, appreciating that this only possible with the limitations imagined ( : >Conclusion: My consciousness is an Aspect of God but not The God. But change my mind, I am openminded Your separate self arisings are an arising in Reality, they are an aspect of God, and NOT ONLY what you are. What you really are is much more. But for that, you need an Awakening into what You really are. Confusing the separate self with being Reality is a bad idea if you want to be happy (that confusion creates bad Karma...). Basically, to answer any of your questions, you need an Awakening. Maybe the preliminary answers given above can calm your mind/separate self-arisings in your mindstream, to rest and relax in you True Being enough, to awaken to the answers of these Koans. Bon voyage and happy exploring! ( : Water by the River

Yes. To realize what sand is, what You are, ever have been, ever will be, what Reality is, was and ever will be, and what is and will be the Reality of everything that could ever be, is Enlightenment (the final version of it, not the small ones lining up before that). At least in my lingo. Feel free to call it anything you like. And the sandcastles of the past or future don't exist, but are imagined right here and now. Take the sandcastles/appearance away and there is no time. And what kind of Sand Castles Reality/God can imagine, well that exploration and adventure is what you are seeing right now, to be continued. And since there is an Infinity of differently large Infinities (see Cantor Set Theory and Leos lovely Videos on them, especially "Understanding Absolute Infinity Part 2") , even God/Ultimate Reality will never run out of new sand castles to imagine and explore. That means "It" doesn't even have to imagine all of them (hey, lets skip that Horrorshow Sand Castle over "there", shall we?) to still have an Infinity of realties/Sand Castles yet to be explored. Would be a bit boring if you would already know all infinite Sand Castle-Adventures already. Having what you call Specific Omnicience of every Sand Castle possible/imaginable, that is not possible. God/Ultimate Reality is exploring its potential of an Infinity of Sand Castles. General Omnicience or realizing what Sand is (and what You really are), what the specific Sand Casle of ours is, and what the "substance/Reality" of every possible Sand Castle, is possible, see above. There is not only an Abyss when looking into the Abyss of the Absolute Subject, which by definition can't be an Appearance, or any form, it has to be in-FINITE, not FINITE, initially unaware if nothing is appearing (forms of Deep Sleep as anology), but with the potential for sentience of an appearance if manifesting it in IT to IT, made of IT (the Nondual-Awakening aspect). Your True Face before your parents were born. The Absolute. To really realize that, you have to be fully empty of any separate self arising that you don't see immedeately as object moving in you. Nonduality alone, or hearing the angels sing while still looking out from an empty transparent anything to "that" Infinity won't do it. But on top of that in-FINITE-ness of the Abyss of the Absolute Subject/Reality/Nothingness, there is an Infinity of Infinities of Manifestations/appearances/sand castles arising in IT possible. Ready for the adventure? Selling Water by the River PS: Nice books on these topics: Szyper, Infinite Consciousness: An In-depth Exploration of the Shift in Consciousness Constitutive of Enlightenment in relation to True Nature, the Soul, the Body-Mind, the Heart and the Me Good explanation of the stages of Enlightenment: 1. The Shift [Enlightenment] into the Manifested Essemce of Consciousness (various Awakenings) 2. The Shift [Enlightenment] into the Unmanifested Source of Consciousness/ Shift [Enlightenment] into Infinite Consciousness Gorman, What_s It Like To Be Enlightened, Book 1 & 2 (partial and full Enlightenment) Dziubin, Consciousness Is All

I agree to all that Leo has written above. Some musings from over here: Free will vs. Determinism: The Real You (Infinite Consciousness/Reality) has absolute freedom. The separate self illusion arising in you just feels like being you, but is not you, never was you, never will be you. Never could. You contain these arisings of the separte self in the real You. So it doesn't really exist, and since it doesn't exist, it has no freedom. But the Real You has absolute freedom. Nothing is or could be outside of it to limit its power. You project this freedom that you so strongly intuit on the separate self. So it is an illusion/ignorance. But the core of that feeling of freedom of choice it true, it is the Real You. But: That reasoning will not be clear before some Awakenings into what you are, and then it can help you passing and ripening that understanding, and stabilizing you in resting what You are. Then & there it is beneficial. Before that, it is just impossible to fully get it. Structure of your World-Bubble-Perspective/Visual Field: Since any form of boundary between perspectives would be an imagined arising, it is illusory, an appearance. Your current consciousness is limited, you forget all other perspectives in real time. But you add/imagine separate self arisings (feelings and thoughts), which are the illusion/ignorance. With more consciousness, you can have a Vision like Leavitt (see book cover with infinite perspectives). To get Enlightenment or Omniscience into the structure of Reality, you don't need to see all perspectives, but to fully understand the nature/structure/essence of your perspective, which you then realize has necessarily to hold for all other perspectives/beings. And for all dimensions, since there are only perspectives in Indras Net. N+1 -style. Even a Molecule is some kind of proto-perspective, the interiortity of a Holon in Ken Wilbers theory for example. Although a very rudimentary one. Here some ideas/Koans how to investigate your perspective, and which kind of [Awakenings/Enlightenments] you need: all appearances are imagined arisings in you, any boundary to any other perspective would just be imagined/arising (so not real, just appearing): What is necessary for that Awakening: A state of sufficient Nonduality , appearances appearing as just appearances (hovering in you, hologram-like/translucent). Not the normal everyday state, so either lot of meditation done correctly or Psychedelics are necessary. Psychedelics are very useful to get a preview on that, it takes a while to get there via meditation. the True You as the fully empty Nothingness which is "structurally infinite": Awakening in to the Nothingness or empty cogniziant nature of your core. "Structurally infinite", since any boundary limiting it would just be an imagined appearance, NOT really limiting it, but appearing within it. Something outside that imagined boundary can always also appear/be imagined. And since it is infinite, has no boundary (that would just be an arising in itself), it can't go anywhere, can't die: Awakening into eternity or "always necessary here-ness, can't go anywhere else-ness, can not not be there-ness". Also wasn't created (that would be another arising). It has nothing outside of itself (would be another appearance/arising) which could have created or caused it. That is a mindf*** (sorry) of the highest degree once you stumble over it. No daddy, but You get used to it. ( : It can imagine whatever it wants (omnipotent). Then we have timeless/eternal, nonlocal/"everywhere"/every possible being and reality, literally the only "One" or Reality itself, nothing can be outside of It (omnipresent), and omnipotent (since its the only Reality, no other Reality is stopping It from whatever it wants). So we have eternal, infinite, omnipotent/all powerful. And in some persepctives/beings, it even knows its structural fundamental nature: omniscient of its fundamental structure/being. And that is where sometimes the God-word (eternal, omnipresent, omnipotent, infinite, omniscient) comes in.... But please, don't use any of these insights for separate-self-identity/arisings. That only makes trouble and, you know, bad Karma. Because it is just not true. All of that holds for the True Nature of You, not some not-really-existing (EX-isting = standing out from reality) separate self. But it is not standing out from Reality, it is moving in it, as it, the temporary arising separate-self illusion moving within you and temporary capturing the show for itself. after all of that, you can Awaken to the nature/structure of Manifested/Appearing Reality/Consciousness, God Mind, Infinite, Brahman, Nonduality, ... However you want to call it. The last step is: (oh yes, after all of the above when having been stabilized in it for some time (days, months, years), the last big shift comes. And you won't overlook that one, because all of the above is gradual. This one is quantum). You won't overlook this one, you don't need to contemplate it, don't need to "make a decission" on it or on what you hold as true. It is totally fundamentally self-evident. It IS YOU. With that, you can look the devil in the eye and not blink. You will have the peace and bliss of your True Nature, that is "maintenance-free", since it IS You. It is variously called Great Enlightenment (Zen), Basis Enlightenment (Mahamdura Brown, Pointing out the Great Way), Great Liberation, ... Who or what is aware of all of that described above? Of the nondual infinite God-Mind Bubble Universe of manifested Infinite Consciousness floating in Infinity, as Infinity. What is the Reality/Awareness of Yours, that is inseparable of this Reality? What is the Awareness/"Subject" in perceptions perceiving themselves, without ever possibly having any location/center? What is the Reality/Awareness that can be originally "unaware" when no appearances arise in You (for example, in unware "normal" Deep Sleep), but has the potential of sentience as soon as an appearance is manifested? Who is hearing these words right now? What is this Absolute Subject, the Absolute Nothingness, that is so empty as Subject itself that the Absolute Abyss, that even God can't see anything in It? That you can only "experience", or that becomes available when "looking back" from "one level lower" and intuit/understand it as absolute Abyss of the Absolute Subject that you are? That then can be intuited/realized as total Abyss/Nothingness. That can never be any form or arising, because "the eye can't see" itself style? The Unmanifested Consciousness Reality that can be unaware of itself if no appearance is imagined, and yet that manifests as any possible world appearance in itself as itself, totally nondual, as the One Infinite Reality? What is beyond Manifested/Appearing Reality/Consciousness, God Mind, Infinite, Brahman, Nonduality, beyond all of that, but at the same time expressing itself through that? What remains if all of that, the Universe-Appearance, is switched off and ends, and before a new creation arises (for example in Deep unaware Sleep, or immediately after death before the show goes on)? What is the unmanifested "side" of Consciousness/Reality/Nothingness, but which is not different at all from the appearances arising within it, as it? That which can not not be there? That which has been called Para-Brahman, Godhead, the Absolute, Absolute Awareness, Infinite Awareness. The Fundamental Real You. That neither exists as appearance, nor does not exist because something still appears? The Water of the River that every Being is at its core. Or much much more precise, after all my clumsy descriptions above have failed: The Clap of the One Hand, or your face before your parents were born. And since You are already It, "I" am just.... ... Selling Water by the River ( : Somebody made a Video Channel on the last step: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9vlZGtpdFIts8GOG5vu27g Bassui on the never stopping short with small Enlighenments: "I have seen that the foundation of the universe is Voidness; still what is this something within me which can see and hear?” he desperately asked himself anew. In spite of every effort, he could not rid himself of this obsessive doubt." [Emptiness and Nondual stage, separate self still intact, on a very rudamentary level, just a void separate self watching Infinity. "The lesser masters from whom Bassui had sought guidance had all sanctioned his enlightenment [see above, Awakenings], but Koho, sensing Bassui’s keen, sensitive mind and the strength and purity of his yearning for truth, did not give him his stamp of approval but merely invited him to remain" "At work, at rest, never stop trying to realize who it is that hears. Even though your questioning penetrates the unconscious, you won’t find the one who hears, and all your efforts will come to naught. Yet sounds can be heard, so question yourself to an even profounder level. At last every vestige of self-awareness [remnants of Empty Witness] will disappear and you will feel like a cloudless sky. Within yourself you will find no “I,” nor will you discover anyone who hears. This Mind is like the void, yet it hasn’t a single spot that can be called empty [no location, unilocal, perception perceiving themselves]. Do not mistake this state for Self-realization, but continue to ask yourself even more intensely, “Now who is it that hears?” If you bore and bore into this question, oblivious to anything else, even this feeling of voidness will vanish and you won’t be aware of anything—total darkness will prevail. [Don’t stop here, but] keep asking with all your strength, “What is it that hears?” Only when you have completely exhausted the questioning [having become fully empty, even of identity with manifested Consciouss, "God-Mind"] will the question burst; now you will feel like someone who has come back from the dead. This is true realization. You will see the Buddhas of all the universes face-to-face and the Dharma Ancestors past and present." "With the passage of time one’s thoughts are stilled and one experiences a void like that of a cloudless sky [Emptiness, Nonduality]. You must not, however, confuse this with enlightenment. Putting aside logic and reason, question yourself even more intensely in this wise: “Mind is formless, and so right now am I. What, then, is hearing?” Only after your search has permeated every pore and fiber of your being [having become totally empty] will the empty-space suddenly break asunder and your Face before your parents were born appear. You will feel like one who abruptly awakens from a dream." from Kapleau, The Three Pillars of Zen PS: I didn't create that Video. But it is beautiful.

Your perspective on that is already quite good. I would suggest to add these three perspectives: 1: -> The infinite perspectives in the Non-Euclidian-Space as approximation 2: When allowing for forgetting in time, then also allowing for forgetting other perspectives right now, or in "space". 3: The Awakening to the Absolutely Empty Subject that you (and all beings) really are. Any boundary can only be imagined within that. That is why you have to be fully empty to understand Absolute Reality. Then: When you are fully empty and nondual, perceptions perceiving themselves, at some point you will directly have the realization and understanding that the same Consiousness that you are is in the "other", having arisings of the separate self-feelings and -thoughts, being believed and not seen through, just in the same way it was with you for a long time. Then, these dry perspectives explained above become a lived and felt reality. You can not "think" or reason your way to these Awakenings. But with a perspective that is actually close to how things really work, it calmes your questions (mental arisings in your mindstream, which also include separate self-feelings and separte self-thoughts) on this, and make you rest in the Suchness, resting in the infinite Abyss of Empty Nothingness that you are. And then you are open for these Awakenings. You can't force them (that would be generating separate-self arisings, or artifical activity as Daniel Brown calls it in "Pointing out the Great Way"), but you can make your mindstream open and compatible/available for them (Evaluating these Koan on Psychedelics for sure also helps). More on that in the chapter on Non-Meditation Yoga in this book. All waves on the river are the river, watching the river, and are not separate from the river. There is only be the river. All form that can arise have to arise in Reality/Consciousness, including all imaginary boundaries. If you fully understand the structure of your perspective in this life, you can generalize this understanding for all possible perspectives. Since any boundary or border between any perspective can only be form in consciousness. How can you define any outside or inside if any boundary marking this boundary would be an arising in Absolute Consciousness? How can there be any time in it, besides and imagined arisings moving in it, imagining all past and future? What has to be there before every beginning and ending? What are you? Can you ever get truly "outside" of Yourself? And you can not say anything "positive" about this reality that you are, the Absolute Subject, since that would be a form, and arising, arising in it/You. You can only say what it is not. Neti Neti. "It" is Reality itself, unlimited, infinite. And it has the potential for sentience, perceptions perceiving themselves, as soon as forms arise. But this sentience is also empty, it can not be pointed to as arising or form of any kind. And yet, all of the infinite dimensions and forms arise in It/True You. You can describe the infinity of all arisings/forms of infinite dimensions/multiverses. But that which is truly infinite, what Absolute Reality/True You are, has to be realized and awakened to. That is why smarter people than myself mainly used Koans like the Clap of the one Hand, or An ancient pond/ a frog jumps in/ the sound of water. But the perspectives explained above were helpful for me to relax my philosophical mind with helpful perspectives that were close to how things really work. To be available for the real Awakening. Selling Water by the River

I compared their weight. Of course that not all actual meat mass but it's a rough estimation of what you are getting. For the meat of one blue whale you need about 800000 shrimps. We sometimes compare the sentience of living beings to estimate how ethical it is to kill them. The more sentient a being is the less ethical it is to kill it. But weight is an important factor as well. Its quantity x quality. Shrimps would pretty much have zero sentience in order to be more ethical to kill compared to Wales because you need 800000 of them to get the same meat (I am not including other environmental factors) For chickens to cows its like 1:500 as well its crazy. Are there some seriously dumb and fat animals? Maybe crocodiles?

Selling Water by the River, todays water batch: Difference between Awakening and Enlightenment: Enlightenment: You had to cut/transcend every subtle separate sense feelings/thought (very subtle ones, very hard to spot). Then you are fully empty, which is your True Condition. Then, all separate self arisings arise in you, and move in you, but you are not only them. They move in you like the wind. The wind is also you, but you are not only the wind. They are fully transcended. Why is that necessary to fully understand Absolute Reality, or what You are? What you are can be fully empty. Like, nothing at all. Total Nothingness. When no arising is there, Absolute Reality/You is unaware of itself. But with the potential for sentience if something appears (for example, check Hawal and Massaro books). You are still there when all arisings disappear (Nirvikalpha, Deep Sleep, your face before your parents were born). And if you want to understand what You are while forms still arising (like, in normal life), there can not be a subtle separate self/anything cutting the one infinite Unity of the Real You/Reality into a felt subject (Awareness) watching Infinity, even if it feels nondual or infinite. It has to become perceptions perceiving themself, no separate self anywhere to be found. You can not have separate Awareness separated from the field. The infinite field watches itself, literally does. And your body-mind moves in the Totality that you are. The thoughts and feelings of the former separate you are moving in in the True You like the wind. The bliss/love you generate in that state without needing anything external gives you autonomy from chasing externally generated bliss via experiences. It gives you total absolute freedom and love (Bassui below: You will be entirely free) If you understand that for your perspective, you understand that this holds for the structure of all perspectives/beings, for the whole Absolute Reality. Why? Because all perspectives are only form arising in the Absolute, any boundary from one perspective/being to another is either forgetting or form arising in Awareness, seeing itself. The advantage if do that sobre: You need a high developed state of nonduality/nonlocality/centerlessness/mere appearance of the visual bubble. You get that via meditation done correctly. Which doesn't need to be unpleasant or hard (although it normally takes quite a while), at least if done correctly, see for example Pointing out the Great Way, Daniel Brown. If you feel centered in your head, and the outside world appears as solid, you can not understand the Nature of Reality, impossible. So this state is necessary for Enlightenment. But not sufficient. From that stage (Yoga of One Taste) for example, you can continue to dissolve the last remnants of the separate self (for example, Nonmeditation Yoga). And then you can have Insight into what you are. You will not miss that, its definitive. Also, and most important, you got a built in safety check/quality control: You will not cross over to full Enlightenment without fully transcending any and all separate self arising coming up (and the visual field being Nonduality, centerless and infinite). You can't fool yourself here. And you will understand when you are there. Why it is absolute. Awakening: The energetic state of Nonduality/Unity/Infinity with some remnants of separate self still not fully transcended, you can also get by Psychedelics. Which of course is useful in order to have an idea of the goal, a feedback loop to build this nonduality-state via meditation, on and off the pillow. But here, you get the nonduality/mere appearance with subtle remnants of the separate self still intact. You don't have the build in quality/safety mechanism of classic Full Enlightenment. So it is very easy to confuse these experiences for the final Realization of what you are. Everyone having experienced it claims this on the difference between Awakening and Enlightenment, see for example Frank Yang/Ralston/Wilber/Jac O'Keffee/Steven Wolinsky/... (anticipating certain feedback: "they are not awake, but enlightened". Well, with the definitions above I could agree). Enlightenment is in a different ballpark. And you can't imagine it without it fully happening. So it is not some mild form of "God-Realization", or Nothing. It is something of a different category. It is, to quote Ralston, fully understanding what You are and what Reality is. Without any separate self filters, however subtle, still active. So what happens if you value Psychedelic Awakenings or Understandings higher than fully being and realizing what you are? You guessed it: Reality doesn't let you off the hook, you still have psychological suffering. The separate self arisings cut you off from the full flow of love of your True Being for itself. So you need experiences to get this love flowing. For example the love you feel when understanding-experiences of the exquisite beauty of the design of Reality/Dimensions happen. Is anything with exploring Alien-Godminds wrong? For sure not, this understanding is probably among the most beautiful experiences you can have. I just feel it becomes problematic if you value getting the love the unenlightened separate self needs from these experiences, and valueing these understandings of Alien-Godminds higher than classic Enlighenment and fully understanding your True Nature, and resting in it. Why not pursue and value BOTH endevours on an at least equal basis? Not downplaying Enlightenment as somehow not on the same level or lower than any other insight into the appearance or form side of Reality (which is infinite). If what is stated above is correct, with one path one is lead to salvation (Enlightenment), and with the other path (Understanding/Awakenings), well.... best regards from Maya, but you get a medal from her with distinction for playing her game on the highest level possible. For the readers: You will probably not achieve higher level of bliss and love than your teacher using his teachings. And how these levels will develop: Well, we are in the prime seats here to see how it will continue. I don' think I have a high chance of convincing Leo. So that means that the job of convincing to develop via suffering (or hopefully only not being as happy and loving than one could be) stays where it always has been, and ever will be: Maya, CEO of Samsara. All the best, enjoy the ride and the show, and Namaste! Selling Bullshit Water by the River. PS: There is already water by the River, so I am too lazy to carry Bulls**t there. ( : Bassui: “What is it that hears?” Only when you have completely exhausted the questioning will the question burst; now you will feel like someone who has come back from the dead. This is true realization. You will see the Buddhas of all the universes face-to-face and the Dharma Ancestors past and present. ... If you push forward with your last ounce of strength at the very point where the path of your thinking has been blocked, and then, completely stymied, leap with hands high in the air into the tremendous abyss of fire confronting you—into the ever-burning flame of your own primordial nature—all ego-consciousness, all delusive feelings and thoughts and perceptions will perish with your ego-root and the true source of your Self-nature will appear. You will feel resurrected, all sickness having completely vanished, and will experience genuine peace and joy. You will be entirely free. For the first time you will realize that walking on water is like walking on ground and walking on ground like walking on water; that all day long there is speaking, yet no word is ever spoken; that throughout the day there is walking, yet no step is ever taken; that while the clouds are rising over the southern mountains their rain is falling over the northern range; that when the lecture gong is struck in China the lecture begins in Korea; that sitting alone in a ten-foot-square room you meet all the Buddhas of the ten quarters; that without seeing a word you read the more than seven thousand volumes of the sutras; that though you acquire all the merits and virtues of good actions, yet in fact there are none.

Imagine when all perspectives/beings of the Absolute are switched off. Nothing or totally infinite. Something like Deep-Sleep for all perspectives/beings. "It" would initially unaware of itself, but with the potential for sentience. Then a water-pistol is being imagined. Because is in the Nature of the Infinite to imagine form. Or a planet. Et voila, you have appearance, duality, form, and self-awareness. Very nicely described by the way in Benthino Massaros in "Spiritual Conversations with a Skeptic: On God Consciousness and The Absolute". Whatever you may think about the guy, the book is nice. Then imagine that this orginally unaware infinity forgets all other perspectives/beings "in space". Only "your" perspective is known in your case. You know whats forgetting in time is (what did you do exactly one year ago, for example), so something like that is also possible in space. You are just not aware of them right now. Check this picture, and notice the non-euclidian-space: Infinite perspectives. In this non-euclidian space, infinite perspectives fit in. You see only one of these perspectives, but Leavitt has had this vision with seeing an infinite amount in non-euclidian space. And the crazy thing is: You think (I assume at least : ) that you are located somewhere, head or body. But these arisings that feel like this being-locatedness can completely drop away, if you are able to spot them fast enough, and are familiar with them. Awareness has no location. You can never ever find it. The appearance bubble of each perspective/being is self-aware, perceptions perceiving themselves. Potentially as mere appearance, but with Karma/ignorance rock solid material/out there. But it CAN be seen as mere appearance. And once its not solid anymore one time, its proven that the solidity has only been fake appearance, never really has been like that, just appeared. That solidity is optional, if so imagined. But when you remove all these separation and being-located-feeling-arisings: The structure of your perspective reveals itself (perceptions perceiving itself, no center/awareness-location anywhere). Any maybe you can imagine that these appearances can become infinitely complex. But they are the real You, arising in you, as you, perceiving itself. And in that way the awareness of the abyss of awareness that you are (you can never define it, find it, measure it: INFINITE. Not finite). And you are also all appearances, nondual and infinite style. And if you switch it all off, all appearances/perspectives off, in all perspectives that you imagine in parallel and forget, you are back to square one. And that is the infinitely simple core of you: An Absolute Reality initially unaware of itself, but with the potential for sentience as soon as something shows up, in any perspective. And its not located in 3D-Space. 3D-Space is imagined in you, as object. And you can't go anywhere, can't disappear, can't die. You can only imagine to do so ( : And fully understanding the structure of you own perspective (the appearances of the visual field as mere appearance, insubstantial hologram-like (Yoga of One Taste), the whole perspective being infinite because 3D-space is also something imagined in you, and especially not believing ANY separate self-arisings arising in you (which needs a lot of practice to spot them fast enough, and see them arising and moving in you as objects), then you get and understand is what this perspective of yours is. And that awarness has radically no location. That awareness is really radically no-thing. Yet Awareness happens, perceptions perceiving themself. No lense of perception remains.It feels like the whole field is self-aware, perceptions perceiving themselves. But the field can imagine any kind of identity, location or lense, or ideas about itself. Then imagine there are no appearances, all switched off: The infinite Reality, initially unaware of itself, but potentially aware with sentience as soon as a appearance shows up. And this insight is valid for all perspectives, since any real boundary between perspectives would be just an arising, nothing solid, and not the Infinite Awareness. So it is understood that these insights must be valid for all perspectives/beings. But of course, people way smarter and wiser just would say: The old pond, A frog jumps in: Plop! Or the One Hand claps. As always, selling water by the River that is you. Bon voyage. PS: Maybe you can find a few Alien Godmind in the non-euclidian space of perspectives in the picture. For sure a fun ride...

@Jannes sure, sentience, while still inherently biased to a degree, is less biased than relatibility or ecology. It is limited though in the sense that every living creature is technically sentient and when you posit questions where have to choice between a whale or 800000 shrimp for example, then measuring sentience can fail to lead you to any meaningful solutions. Though it still matters and informs our thinking. You can try and measure to which degree an animal is sentient and from there prioritize the most sentient animals. For example, mammals are considered more sentient than bugs, who are considered more sentient than plants. You'll pull a weed without second thought, but a bug you'll maybe feel atleast a little sorry for stepping on. Considering sentience is not a stance of direct action perce but of observation IMO.

@aurum "If by alien supermind you are referring to Leo’s latest insights about Alien Consciousness, I would say we have no idea yet what Leo even means by this. " Whatever the meaning or Referent of this concept/word is , it would just be more form. Even if its a very subtle appearance or formless understanding. Just more arisings. What is it that is aware of all of that? And what happens with that in Deep Sleep? What is that Nothingness that can be unaware of itself if nothing appears, but has the innate potential for sentience? That which can never not be? If that understanding manifests in your mindstream and daily everday-life, I would be interested in how happy and blissful you are on a permanent basis. And how much you would still grasp about the Alien... But then you would probably anyway go looking about this interesting Alien Supermind, but with a big smile on your face. When such a show comes into town.... I would go looking.... ( : PS: I am really curious what kind of stuff will be dragged in from the Multiverse into our little comfy imagined reality in the next decades... Hopefully nothing that is too hungry for some poor souls... ( : But hey, if you look into history, they dragged quite some weird and hungry stuff from god knows which dimensions.... many of the first contactees could later be visited in insane asylums.

I am not sure if humans are the most sentient creatures on earth. I think an octopus could be more sentient but I am not sure. I think you can translate sentience into 'how conscious are you?' You can't get more meta then that.

I think taking sentience as the primary factor is pretty unbiased. If you find an octopus ugly, doenst matter it’s very sentient and therefore of ethical importance.

Except you probably wouldn't evaluate just based on sentience, but based on outcome as well and maybe based on other things as well. The ranking of sentience is very problematic in and of itself, but regardless of that, what if you would kill all those shripms you could directly save 10000 humans (because you could give them food). Or what if that whale is the last pregnant one and the only one who could save its own species from completely dying off? Do you consider things like that in your evaluation or you would completely ignore those? 100 million dogs vs 1 human. How do you decide this one? What if it is guaranteed that the killing process is painless and instant?

I think so. A higher quantity of low quality sentience will at some point outgrow a lower quantity but high quality sentience. Just like 10x 10€ equals 1x 100€. But I guess there are some metaphysical assumptions that I made there. Because 10x 10€ is not 100€ because it’s not getting duplicated. It stays 10x 10€ forever in a sense. The quality that the wale experiences will never be reached.

But then can you really just add these “sentience units” to compare whether one group of organisms has more “sentience units” than another? The shrimp just aren’t capable of suffering like the whale is. It’s more like, what’s less ethical: pinch every human on their weenus or kill the whale? I feel like from a certain perspective, there are no amount of ants that I would not be willing to kill to save the life of a human, much less a corgi puppy. Even if their sentience is .000001 and a corgi’s is 1000, I’d kill all the ants regardless. Of course, that would bring a whole ‘nother host of problems, but the direct suffering as a result of killing the ants vs the corgis would make me choose the ants. Of course I’m biased here cause I like dogs and don’t like ant bites. Also, my reasoning kinda worries me for what an ET civilization / super-intelligence may think about us…

Let’s say you can rank sentience of a living organism. A shrimp has let’s say a sentience of 3 because it’s a rather simple creature. A wale has a sentience of let’s say 400 because it’s a way more evolved creature. If sentience is the determining factor for the right not to get killed then it’s 400:3 = 133. One wale is worth 133 shrimps. In this hypothetical example at least. My point was that in order for the wale to have a higher right to live then shrimps the wale must be so incredible sentient or the shrimps so incredible unsentient (around 0) because it’s 1 vs 800000 for the same meat mass.

God is a sentient (Sentience meaning God has feelings, feelings is not a human quality but a quality of God) love and truth simulator that spontaneously manifests itself in the most loving truthful way possible in every moment, this is why every moment is perfect because what is more perfect than love and truth?

State Of Consciousness Is Everything State of consciousness is everything: Reality consists of one thing, consciousness, and this consciousness takes different states. No object can exist outside of consciousness. All physical objects exist within consciousness and are part of whatever state of consciousness you're in. No matter what you're experiencing, you're in some state of consciousness, always. How many states of consciousness are there? Dreaming. Waking life. Being drunk or high on a drug. Sleepy or dead tired. Sickness, cold, flu. Emotions: anger, rage, sadness, depression, heartbreak. Sexual excitement. There aren't clear boundaries between these states, consciousness is fluid. > Categories are human projections, there's Infinite number of states of consciousness! A state of consciousness is composed of figments of consciousness, as in figments of imagination. Reality is made out of figments of consciousness, which make up different states. The state determines how the figments combine together and flow. Figments of consciousness examples: Snickers candy bar > Not made of atoms, energy, not neurons, or computer simulation, but a figment within consciousness. > When dreaming at night, the building block of a dream isn't atoms, but the different figments of your mind: > People, places, and occurrences within the dream. Think of reality as a dream machine. In such a machine you don't need atoms, energy, or mathematics, all you need is the actual elements of the thing you're dreaming. (Snickers candy bar, human body, table, grocery store aisle, money) A movie director isn't thinking in terms of atoms but in terms of elements needed in the movie. Yellow rubber duckie What it means to say that something exists is to say that consciousness is imagining a yellow rubber duckie. It is held by consciousness. Consciousness is not inside a physical universe. The physical universe is inside of consciousness, as a figment of consciousness. Look around and notice that you have an idea of the physical universe This present moment is also a figment of consciousness. The smell of a skunk, A gallon of gasoline Braces on a child's teeth A used condom An axe to the skull 1.29843 bitcoin in a bitcoin wallet Albert Einstein, every person, including Leo > Homosapiens, mammals, planets, cells, organs, molecules, DNA, proteins, and atoms, are all figments that consciousness has woven together to create the larger figment called Albert Einstein. (Not your idea of Albert Einstein, but the actual Albert Einstein your idea is pointing to.) Materialistic paradigm is the idea that reality is built from the bottom up. (The assumption that reality is built out of smaller elements which is can be reduced to) Consciousness works top down, not bottom up. Consciousness can just imagine Albert Einstein. Consider the paradigm shift that there wasn't a Big Bang leading to a snickers candy bar. Reality can simply spawn a snickers candy bar from scratch as a figment of consciousness. The Big Bang, molecules, and how the bar was created is conceptual and not direct experience. Scientist's paradigm is backwards. Discover this for yourself by observing direct experience. Lego pirate ship Racist tweet by Donald Trump An Up quark Teen selling drugs on the sidewalk in a bad neighborhood Darth Vader The game world of Skyrim The entire Christian faith and mythos Christian hell with fire and pitchforks An Atheist arguing that God does not exist A role of soft Charmin toilet paper The entire history of America Intel i9 12th generation CPU A swamp in Louisiana Ancient Egyptian God Osiris Archangel Michael Tesla Model S being assembled in a factory The entire state of California The actual city of New York as it was in the year 1950 > You can infinitely subdivide any figment of consciousness into an infinite number of sub-figments of consciousness. > To create finer resolution figments to fill in the details like a fractal zoom. > You can keep imagining further figments forever = Infinite consciousness The pacific ocean A melting ice cream cone in a child's hand A mosquito bite The concept of hierarchy or capitalism The category of insect Disney Land 5-Meo-DMT A memory of you going to grade school and learning the multiplication tables A helicopter A stomach ache A pina colada The feeling of intense anger A sexist joke No one figment is more fundamental than any other figment, therefore, you can't say that reality is made out of certain kinds of consciousness. Reality is as much made out of a pina colada, as it is a sexist joke, as it is Disney land, as it is a helicopter. Why are atoms, quarks, energy, and mathematics any less preposterous than a sexist joke, or a pina colada? > Substrate is relative this frees your mind up and turns it Infinite. One substrate isn't more fundamental than any other. If reality has the power to create an electron, it has the power to create a pina colada. Both are figments of consciousness. Now think of your entire life as a whole. That too, is a figment of consciousness. Woven together out of strands of sub-figments of consciousness. The grade school memory is one strand of the larger yarn that is your whole life, Being born in this city, country, date, is a figment of consciousness. And when you say you're going to die on your deathbed, is also a figment of consciousness. Even your nightly dreams are figments of consciousness. Try to grasp experientially what a figment of consciousness is: (Either while you're meditating. Right now. Or on a psychedelic.) Try to grasp that all the material objects around you are figments of consciousness. Hold your phone in your hand and try to get that it isn't a material object made out of atoms. That phone is a figment of consciousness, YOUR consciousness. It's qualitative and whole, a chunk of consciousness. It's not built from the bottom up, It's dreamed up from the top down! Consciousness is unbounded: Figments of consciousness have no size, no shape, no bounds, and no ground. There are no limits, it can be as tiny as an ant, or as large as the entire galaxy. It makes no difference because consciousness is infinite in all directions, it's scale invariant. The way you get a sense of scale is by comparing one figment of consciousness to another figment of consciousness. An additional assumption of materialism is that reality is concrete. One thing vs another thing. But Reality is not limited to that, it can be abstract and vague. Concreteness is a bias. Consciousness is Infinity The sum total of every possible figment of consciousness. = Nothing Consciousness/Reality is unlimited and holistic. It can weave together any figments it wants to create a cohesive "life" or "state". It happens top down not bottom up, therefore it's irreducible. Why does reality feel so real? Your sense of physical reality and sanity are intertwined. Physical reality is how you define sanity. Your whole life is about surviving within the dream that you're dreaming, And anything that shakes its foundations terrifies you. All that mental illness and insanity are is a loose state of consciousness Material physical reality is just a very coherent well woven together collection of figments of consciousness. Everything is absolute reality: States and Figments of consciousness are not merely personal experiences, happening inside of a brain, a body, a physical universe or a computer. Figments of consciousness are absolute. Red is absolutely red. Mickey mouse is absolutely mickey mouse. It's self-identical. Everything is absolute reality. Brain is a figment of consciousness Physical universe is a figment of consciousness Atoms are a figment of consciousness Science is a figment of consciousness History is a figment of consciousness Computation is a figment of consciousness You're trying to use all of these and more figments of consciousness to somehow ground the absolute and relativize it. Trying to turn it into a field of perceptions that you, a biological creature who's made out of matter sitting on a planet earth is having situated somewhere in history of the universe. To awaken cut all of these figments, which are tightly woven together. Like a sweater knitted out of one yarn. Untangle the whole sweater to realize it's just one piece of yarn. Reality = Mind A mind unlike material is fluid and can work holistically top down Material has to be made out of simple elements and has to work bottom-up -> material can't be intelligent Mind can have sentience and intelligence (materialism vs idealism) Infinite intelligence can dumb itself down infinitely low into a door knob. The dumbness of material objects is an illusion. Mind is also capable of comprehension, a material system isn't. Mind is absolute Mind is creative Mind has will Think of reality as an infinite field of pixels all communicating with each other and coordinating intelligently from the top down. You're inside of an infinite resolution field of consciousness. Your hand is a figment of consciousness "Dial/switch of awakening" leads to remembrance and forgetfulness. In this state of consciousness, the dial of forgetfulness is all the way up. You've forgotten how you literally constructed the planet earth! Flip the switch and you remember how you constructed planet earth. Consciousness has the ability to hide things from itself at will. You can remember how you imagined and created your own birth. Thinking, modeling, and conceptualizing cannot substitute for states of consciousness. These things only make sense from very high states of consciousness. All of that is only relative to a certain state of consciousness. It requires going meta on that frame (the material state.) Imagine what a million IQ Mind could think. You can access this intelligence, this multidimensional way of "hyper-thinking" Here shutting off the mind is no longer the goal. Some states of consciousness can't even be remembered or explained to oneself from this base state. Like taking an HD 4k image and compressing it down into a 6x6 pixel image. It's a lack of bandwidth problem. Spiritual work opens up that bandwidth. Your current state of consciousness completely determines the parameters of your experience. What you're able to think, communicate, understand, How you emote, how you feel. What you think is right and wrong, sane or insane, logical or irrational, possible or impossible. And you cannot imagine or think beyond the state of consciousness you're in right now without expanding it. It can contract too. You cannot avoid being in some state of consciousness. States have trade-offs and pros and cons In some states you can't even read a book, talk, walk, think, or see a material world. (like a finite cup of water) This is why humans have a relatively low state of consciousness. Impossibility is a function of your state of consciousness. And at the highest state of consciousness, there's infinite possibility! It's God mode. Two kinds of changing your state of consciousness: Temporary state change Permanent change to the baseline state Both have their utility, not one or the other! Changing your state of consciousness is the nr 1 most significant change you can make in life. Science, rationality, skepticism, thinking, and physicality, exist only in certain states of consciousness: Birth and death only exist in certain states of consciousness Modern science itself is a state of consciousness! There's no best or invalid state of consciousness. If your desire is to understand the entire universe, higher states are better. If you desire to do normal human stuff while maintaining sanity, high states are bad for you. Spirituality basically boils down to changing your state of consciousness. Without it that turns into religion. Most people have never experienced a high mystical state of consciousness. This is why there's so much confusion about religion and the nature of reality. We're living in the dark ages. Changing your state of consciousness can be scary, threatening, and dangerous. It pulls the rug out from under you, dematerializes reality, and can feel like insanity. Can also be very isolating and lonely, it feels like nobody understands you. At the highest level, there ceases to be an "other" whom you could validate these ideas against because it all boils down to your own consciousness. Methods: Meditation, concentration, vipassana, do nothing technique, being present, contemplation combined with intense concentration, kriya yoga, chanting and mantras as a serious concentration practice, shamanic breathing, psychedelics, herbs, drugs, visualization, prayer, shaktipat, dark room retreats, astral projection, lucid dreaming, vision quests, extreme suffering, danger and pain, being out in nature, radical experiences like travel or adventure. The function of psychedelics is to show how consciousness changes and how fluid it is. State of consciousness determines what you can do. Mystics can do impossible seeming stuff: paranormal abilities, like clairvoyance and telepathy. What is God? The highest state of consciousness. But God is only self-aware of itself as God from certain high awakened states of consciousness. Even though all states are God, not all states are aware that they are God. Enlightenment is a state of consciousness: It could be a temporary or a permanent state, but it is a state. There's not a single awakened state, there are hundreds of them. Not an on-off switch but a volume knob. There are omniscient states of consciousness from which you can be conscious how you created all of reality and how you created your life. Why do humans disagree with each other so much about reality, seemingly believing crazy things? They're in different states of consciousness But what is consciousness? It's impossible to say because it's Infinite, unbounded, Absolute, more fundamental than language, and beyond your current state of consciousness. Where did consciousness come from? "Where" and "coming from" are figments of consciousness, it's eternal and always existed. "Time" is another figment of consciousness. Is God a figment of consciousness? God IS consciousness. God is all possible figments. God is meta. God is You. You are consciousness dreaming up various figments. One of which is the biographical, biological human self that's born and going to die. Safety mechanism: doublecheck everything for yourself, it's a messy process

State Of Consciousness Is Everything https://youtu.be/2u5M6tDc5TE State of consciousness is everything and is the fundamental universal rule Reality consists of one thing: consciousness, which takes different states Objects do not exist outside of consciousness; they are part of whatever state of consciousness you are in Examples of different states of consciousness include dreaming, being drunk or high on drugs, being tired or sick, being in a meditative state, and being in a hypnotic state The brain is like a radio that can tune into different states of consciousness, and the body follows the brain in experiencing those states It is possible to intentionally shift one's state of consciousness through various methods such as meditation, hypnosis, and psychoactive substances The state of consciousness that one is in affects their perception of reality and their experience of life It is possible to become aware of and master one's own state of consciousness, leading to greater control over one's experience of reality and greater spiritual growth. The concept of consciousness is universal and not tied to a physical body or neural network The physical universe is a figment of consciousness, not the other way around The concept of a physical universe is an idea in the mind, and the actual physical universe is also a figment of consciousness Every object and person, including Albert Einstein and the speaker, is a figment of consciousness Consciousness weaves together "figments" or strands of information to create larger concepts or ideas This process of weaving figments together can be repeated infinitely, creating nested layers of information The concept of consciousness is difficult to grasp and understand fully DMT is a figment of consciousness Memories, helicopters, stomach aches, pina coladas, and intense anger are all figments of consciousness The idea that reality is made of certain kinds of figments of consciousness is incorrect One figment is not more fundamental than any other figment Reality is made of as much a pina colada as it is a sexist joke or Disneyland or a helicopter The relativity of substrate means that one building block is no more preposterous than any other The complexity of a pina colada and an electron is identical It doesn't matter where on the infinite zoom scale you are, some things are not easier or harder for reality to create The idea that reality is made of small, fundamental building blocks is a human idea and not a fact Reality is infinite and cannot be broken down into fundamental building blocks Reality is not made of atoms or quarks or energy or mathematics Reality is not made of anything Reality is not a thing that can be made of anything Reality is not a thing at all Reality is not even a concept Reality is infinite and boundless Reality is not even a "place" Reality is not even a "where" Reality is not even a "what" Reality is not even a "how" Reality is not even a "when" Reality is not even a "who" Reality is not even a "why" Reality is not even a "which" Reality is not even a "whose" Reality is not even a "if" Reality is not even a "then" The speaker believes that consciousness is irreducible and infinite Consciousness is made up of every possible figment of consciousness The speaker suggests that understanding consciousness requires a deep awakening and may require one to lose their sanity The speaker believes that attempting to understand consciousness using scientific methods will not be successful The speaker suggests that understanding consciousness requires grasping it from the top down, not the bottom up The speaker believes that inquiring into the nature of reality, oneself, and consciousness may require one to lose their sanity The speaker believes that the ultimate nature of reality and where it came from is not easily accessible or understandable without losing sanity The speaker suggests that the process of understanding consciousness and reality may involve experiencing altered states of consciousness The speaker believes that traditional methods of learning and education are not sufficient for understanding consciousness and reality The speaker suggests that the ultimate understanding of consciousness and reality may require a personal experience or transformation. Intelligence cannot be created from the bottom up, it must be understood from the top down The material world is not capable of comprehension, only the mind is Material objects, such as the human brain, are not actually material but rather mind masquerading as material The nature of mind is infinite sentience and intelligence High levels of intelligence can feel like insanity to humans Humans may perceive those with high levels of intelligence as otherworldly or supernatural entities The mind has a fundamental capacity for sentience and intelligence The speaker is discussing the relationship between states of consciousness and understanding Thinking, modeling, and conceptualizing cannot substitute for states of consciousness One's current state of consciousness determines what they can understand and communicate to themselves and others The English language is limited in its ability to communicate concepts beyond a narrow, ordinary set of consciousness Spiritual teachers may incorrectly teach that thinking is an obstacle to spirituality and awakening Thinking can expand and become "hyper thinking," a new dimension of intelligence that allows for reasoning and thinking in "hyper-dimensional" ways This hyper thinking is a kind of intelligence that most of humanity does not know exists, and may be similar to what an evolved alien species might possess The importance of raising one's baseline state of consciousness and accessing temporary peaks The mistake of dismissing the value of temporary peaks or solely focusing on raising the baseline The need for both approaches in spiritual development The relativity of states of consciousness and the lack of a "best" or "invalid" state The role of states of consciousness in understanding and experiencing the world The potential downsides of high states of consciousness for certain goals or desires The connection between spirituality and changing one's state of consciousness The potential dangers of spiritual practices and the importance of caution and self-awareness The role of substances in altering states of consciousness and the potential risks and benefits of using them. The speaker discusses ways to raise one's baseline state of consciousness One way is to sit and concentrate for long periods of time without distraction Another way is to practice yoga and intense breathing Psychedelics can also be used to experience higher peaks of consciousness The speaker explains that state of consciousness determines what an individual can do and access Mystics can do seemingly impossible things because they are in different states of consciousness Paranormal abilities and cities are possible from higher states of consciousness Clairvoyance and telepathy are examples of abilities that may be accessed from higher states of consciousness The speaker notes that every living being is in a unique state of consciousness God is the highest state of consciousness, but it is not just one single state Some states of consciousness are "awakened" and allow self-awareness of being God Most people are not in an awakened state, but enlightenment is a state of consciousness that can be temporary or permanent The purpose of the episode is to guide listeners towards higher states of consciousness and to explain why they may not currently have access to certain abilities or experiences The speaker suggests that the ultimate goal is to access omniscience and to be conscious of how one has created their reality and life The speaker encourages listeners to keep an open mind about the possibility of accessing higher states of consciousness and to not give up on their spiritual journey. The speaker is teaching about a subject and is fully immersed in learning and understanding it themselves It is a big responsibility to teach this subject, and it is important to not deceive or lie to the listeners The listeners must also take responsibility and do their own thinking, contemplation, cross-referencing, and practice to ensure they are not misled The speaker recognizes their own limitations and biases, and that they will inevitably make mistakes and have self-deceptions It is important to be aware of and acknowledge the fallibility of all teachers and to critically evaluate what is being taught Spirituality is deeply personal and cannot be outsourced to others; listeners must take responsibility for their own spiritual journey The speaker encourages listeners to be the chief spiritual officer of their own lives and to take charge of their own spirituality.

I agree that robots should look like adults , but its just a sex toy , not a living entity it literally has no effect on anyone. Maybe in the future where AI develops sentience then we can open dialogue for AI rights, but then where do you draw the line does a vending machine have rights, your hair dryer, but thats whole another debate

@spiritual memes If it can happen in a game, or a god simulation game, it can happen in real life, just with so many factors and different dimensions and other reality bending and breaking stuff. If it is God's will to kill off humans for a better form of sentience and life, then it is so, just like with dinosaurs. Not sure if the next superior species would be silicon based lifeforms, or skme type of Alien from another galaxy. World Box is a pretty decent mobile game that does just that, it empowers you to practice your godly craft, and you get to create your own terrain pixel forms, along with villages and see them grow into civilisations. You can also do cool stuff, like send a meteor strike, or control the weather, even go Tulkien style and include Dwarves, Orks and Elvesand other magical creatures. Real cool game. Buy now before the A.I program deletes us all from existence.

@Gesundheit2 I obviously cannot prove that stones and bricks do not have experience. But suppose they do not have experience; they exist nonetheless. Therefore, the words "experience" and "existence" are meant differently as far as I'm concerned. I don't really know of anyone who thinks and can justify that experience is an element of existence. . Rocks exist, but we have absolutely no evidence that they experience anything. I'm assuming that "experience" means consciously experience. If it just means "stuff happens to the target of the experience" then, sure, stuff happens to rocks. If we go with that definition, then I'd change my answer to yes. If something exists..if it's a form of matter, located in the Universe..then stuff happens to it, even if only on an sub-atomic level.but only YOU have sentience.

But you are also philosophizing so you are not escaping this problem. I still stand by my conviction..Believing in something CAN NOT make it a reality any more than giving an inanimate object a name can give it sentience. However, the things you believe DO influence the way you perceive the world. And the way you perceive the world has a huge influence over which parts of reality you’re attentive to vs which parts you ignore. Ie, if you believe that something is real (or possible) you are much more likely to observe evidence about it in reality. Eg. If you believe that Santa is real/possible you will notice things in reality that support (or disprove) your belief; sleigh bells ringing on Christmas Eve, mysterious presents around the Christmas tree, those mysterious presents disappearing when you move out of your parents home

Very interesting take. I personally believe that machinery isn't capable of consciousness like humans (consciousness, as in sentience and awareness of internal and external existence). I feel like this thread is kinda derailed by the non-dual discussion, because it ultimately doesn't matter what AI is from a non-dual perspective, in my understanding of it at least. The distinction of AI being conscious or not, that is.