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This is a work I wrote while on a flight back from Las Angeles to Australia. Took around 13 hours. Enjoy. p.s, sorry Leo. Pathfinder Truth always contains a smidgen of falsity - From Brisbane, Australia — the Golden State. Dedicated to Grace. Not just any Grace. My sister Gracie. Love you <3 “The darker the abyss, the brighter the light.” Lucifer (esoteric teachings - inspired by Jung and Dostoevsky) If you’re not going to study Scripture scrupulously with a discerning eye, attention to detail, spiritual understanding, the true guidance of the Holy Spirit, general worldly knowledge, scientific understandings and, most of all Wisdom, don’t do it at all. All else is mere opinion. Opinions are worth less than the dirt underneath my feet. Dan and Shiloh, thanks for teaching me how to truly enjoy life. “To enter the Kingdom of Heaven you must become like a child.” “The answer to life, the universe and everything is 42.” Douglas Adams, Hitch-hikers guide to the galaxy Praise be to Jesus, forever and ever. The “God” of the Old Testament has a big fat ego, right? Right. Agnostic Judaism is the correct ideology, at least as far as ideologies go. And we all know the right mess ideologies of all stripes have led us into. “Ideologies — any ideology - are your enemy.” Terence McKenna (paraphrasing) - rip to the goat. Hope you’re having the trip of a lifetime wherever you happen to be now. Might (?) meet up with you in the distant future. Jack, for encouraging me to start writing. Michael. You, and only you, truly understand. Thanks for everything. Can’t wait for your wedding. Amy, cheers for being a legend. Keep it up yo. To mum and dad, You did remarkably well given the circumstances. I apologise for the pain that resulted from my actions over the years. We got there in the end. Ash, my beloved aboriginal friend who tragically passed a few years ago from suspected methamphetamine overdose. Everyone who knew you loved you. You had such a welcoming presence and never judged anyone. Sorry that we all weren’t there for you enough in your time of need and I trust you’re getting all the back rubs up in your own little slice of paradise my bro. Rest easy. Joey. Blood runs thick. Thicker than people are willing to know. Love you forever my brother. Jords, thanks for always being there for me, supporting me emotionally in ways I couldn’t comprehend, and still can’t. Love you, see you when you get back to Australia. ————- ——————— ———— ———————— Contained here are the jots of EitherOars - the first being’s - journal. Or, in Layman’s terms, Matthew Christopher Dooley (circa. 97’) To the Actualized.org community I am known by a few as Ponder. I appreciate the shoutout by Inlytened1 on the “favourite names on the forum” post. Thought people had forgettern about me since I haven’t posted for years. And to Leo Gura, this is what real spiritual development looks like. Take notes. Part 1 I don’t know where I’m going with this. Don’t know if there really is anywhere to go. Unfortunately. Or is it unfortunate? Have to question that assumption. See, that’s the thing with assumptions. You’ve got to question them. The tricky part is, we have far more hidden assumptions than are apparent. And where did these assumptions come from in the first place? That’s a good question to ponder. Obviously an assumption is that which is assumed when the fact of the matter is unknown. And why is the fact of the matter (any matter) unknown? Another good question to ponder. What would it mean to know — to truly know — a fact. I guess we need to start with defining “fact”. A fact (according to my admittedly barebones definition) is something that is true. Now what is truth? Now this is an exceedingly tricky question. In my estimation, it is “the question” to answer (if you care about truth, that is.) But now we’re making the assumption that there are questions to be answered. What if this is the underlying assumption that has plagued human thought since its inception. Ok, now I’m getting ahead of myself. Because somehow “getting ahead of yourself” is possible, right? I could digress here into notions of possibility and impossibility. Suffice to say, what if all that you’ve assumed to be possible or impossible is just that: an assumption. These darn assumptions… (244 words) Laying down is nice. Florida is nice. Just wish I could sleep. Insomnia has a grip of me as of late. It does run in the family. Think I might do some uber eats delivery driving when I get back to Australia. Doesn’t pay the best but sure beats having to deal with people. The horror. People are nice. They’re just exhausting. That’s all. “Hell is other people” Satre What to do this afternoon and night?Completely free. One thing I know for sure is it will involve too many cigarettes than I’m willing to admit. Maybe a bit of booze. We’ll see. And music. Can’t forget music. I’ve committed to writing >200 words per day. I need to implement some level of discipline into my life for a semblance of structure. Hard to not be depressed when you’re not putting in some tangible work (the intangibles are where it’s at though in my humble opinion). Having inferior Se (the Myer’s Briggs cognitive function) makes it decidedly hard to focus on tangibles, but it must be done to some extent — to what exact extent is yet to be seen. Anyway, I’m off to smoke a dart. Just put this text into a word counter and I needed two more words to make the two hundred cut off mark. So there you go. (223 words) Pretty drunk right now. Got some “Shiner Bock” from the store across the road. Quality beer. Made in Texas of all places. Family are worried about me. Fair enough. Knowing what happened in the past. Bored out of my brain and my right ear aches. Might watch some Samurai Champloo. This plane ride is surely draggin, as they tend to do. Mainly just need my nicotine fix - - and to see my sister and step-brother. Got some American Spirits last night. Pure tabacco, unlike the tabacco that we have in Australia with something like 69 carcinogens packed into every one. Crazy. I guess I’ll wax philosophical again, if I must. Why do we insist on being right all the time? What if there is no such thing as right. Or (and wait for it) wrong either. Gasp. “Out beyond your ideas of right and wrongdoing is a field. I will meet you there.” Rumi See, Judgement is actually the biggest myth that has ever been created. A necessary myth, but a myth nonetheless. And the funny thing is that’s a major component of the depiction of the Old Testament’s God. You can’t tell me it’s not child abuse to instill in your children’s heads the idea that if they don’t follow God to the t they will burn in Hell for eternity. If that’s not child abuse, I don’t know what is. I guess it produced toughness if nothing else. Toughness is a necessity. Existence is Necessary. Existence is Love. Now I’m not saying my parents - though Evangelical Christians - instilled this idea by any means, quite the contrary. I remember though sitting in church one morning (I would have been around 5) and thinking if God exists, and we believe in him, when we die we’ll go to heaven. But if we don’t believe in God, when we die there will be non-existence (which is a performative contradiction but that’s a story for another time.) And if we die when he does exist and we don’t believe him, then there are infinitely many negatives. So it seemed like a no-brainer (starfish?) to me. Low-key independently invented Pascal’s wager at the tender age of 5. Was never scared of hell as a kid. Never even thought about it. Didn’t necessarily believe in God either. Was waiting to be convinced. As a teen I became an atheist for a while after independent contemplation and reading books such as “The God Delusion” by Richard Dawkins. Talk about dork. Far out. Of course, as time goes on, life experiences tend to convince the earnest seeker of the existence of God. My inception to lending significant credence to the idea happened on a fateful day at the age of 15, when I first smoked weed in the bush near a beach at the Sunshine Coast. All I’m going to say is, luckily I didn’t know how to inhale it substantially or I may not be here today to be writing this. The rest was history. I was hooked. Later came the tobacco. The air needs to be grounded with the earth. Feels like I have blod clot (s). Been bothering me all trip. In a sense it’s the only thing that’s been bothering me. I was reading that Guru from Mobb Deep died from some form of anemia in his mid-50s (?) Actually hilariously ironic considering him and his rap partner (can’t remember his name) were the kings of nyc in the 90s. Been sitting next to a man named Darrell on this flight. Me on the left - window seat - and him on the right (aisle seat). Such a cool dude. And officially the first friend I’ve made while travelling. Milestone. Told him to come visit Australia sometime and I could show him around. He’s in the Navy. Says it’s hella fun. fidgety. I will not elaborate. Currently on the bus with Aimz and Jai. Chill. Feels like we’re moving slow motion. Can’t wait to get a feed though. Need some sustenance. And a ciggie of course. Always a ciggie.. At the airport right now about to head home. Had some gourmet tuna sushi and now drinking a (very strong) scotch and coke. Definitely feeling it. Kinda wearing off now and we haven’t even taken off. Boredom. The bane of my existence. Oh well, could be a lot worse. A lot, lot worse. “Humans have an almost infinite capacity for taking things for granted.” Aldous Huxley The problem with the world is that the intelligent are so hesitant whereas the idiots are so cocksure paraphrase of Mark Twain problems, problems, problems in the wind… paraphrase of the soundcloud song blotterbaby et al. - problems in the wind earth. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. Rich symbolism, indeed. wtf is taking so long, indeed. patience is the opp of a virtue, indeed.. Even the Messiah gets bored at times, I guess Conquering boredom completely is ultimate Samadhi. Nah, some egoic flight-attendant bitch is completely ignoring my completely reasonable ask for some water. She just came back and gave me a hot cup of water. Wtf is this shit lmao I swear I have no peripheral vision aye. Never have. Not gonna start now. For the most part of my trip in America I kinda assumed the public weren’t really aware of me per se. kinda always felt invisible even though I was obviously aware of people interacting with me physically. I have an exceedingly strange mind. 1 of 1 strange. Aura-farming complete Ladies are aware of physical reality more than men. Weirdly enough we never even concretely made this observation. Eh, I don’t even care about this shit anymore. I’m purely writing shit because I’m bored out of my fucking brain. Plane flights are officially the bane of my existence. Fucking finally. What the fuck takes these incompetent people so long to do their fucking job. Shit’s fucked. Samurai champloo muju style Can’t believe that it took 28 years for me to realize I’ve had adhd my entire life Time feels like it’s frozen right now. Doubt many have been in this state. Doubt any have been in this state. Think I need to get on adhd medication (dexomethorphan in particular) so that I can actually fucking focus on a task for more than two seconds. Three if we’re being generous. Whenever I’m flying in a plane it genuinely feels like I will never arrive at the destination - Brisbane in this case. Obviously that’s not true but the feeling remains solidly in my awareness. Oh well, oh well. 0 + 0 seconds = 0 seconds Woah, that 0 seconds at the end there just turned gold of its own accord. Golden Age — Age of Aquarius, has officially dawned. Scorpio season atm - those damn water signs / Metteyya the Arahant (enlightened one) has returned. His story begins in Caboolture, Australia. Born at home in a small country house. His nan and grandads to be exact. He was a late birth, but came all of a sudden one night. This trajectory - late then suddenly - was a major theme of his life. And he wouldn’t have it any other way. That is if the boredom was reconcilable. That’s something that has always fundamentally been there. Emotions aren’t experienced in the same way as people No water signs in my chart, you see? Jai is an INFJ now that I think of it. Grace, my lovely sister was Pandora in a past life. I’m sure of it. Pandora’s box. Not good. Really not good. Greattttttt Having a lot of insights right now. The more you write, the more you have. Wonder how many words I’ve done now per day since I agreed to the pact with Jack to do 200 a day. Surely I’ve far surpassed that number. Good. Part 2 Pete Davidson’s a bad man. He deserves punishment for what he did to Ariana Grande. Pronto. Don’t know why I started Part 2 mentioning that monster, but it seemed appropriate somehow. I’m done being nice. How’s that for a part 2? Part 3 Best things come in threes, or so they say. I would argue the best things come in twos, or, occasionally one. Part 4 I have four siblings. Josiah, my eldest brother, Grace and Amy, my other younger sister. We had a damn good childhood. We went to Mueller College just down the road from where we lived. Great school if you’re interested in bringing your children up with strong Christian values and academic integrity. Wait, why the fuck does it sound like I’m doing an advert for Mueller? I must have really liked it. The thing about my childhood in general, and even teen years I have a very foggy and patchy memory. I remember the vibes but don’t remember specific events nearly as much as others do. I know Grace remembers things in very fine detail and - wait, that train of thought just got interrupted with the notion that Grace may have been an INFP all along. Now there’s a plot twist. Part 5 555 Good number ‘5’ Right in the middle. The scales Libra Zodiac. Part 6 Jordie’s an ENFJ as well I just realised. Don’t know why I thought she was an ESFJ this whole time. Probably because my first major crush was on Kiahny - the one that got away so to speak. So there was nostalgia colouring my assessment. As per usual id assume. But going back to Jordie. I’m gonna move into her place if she lets me. Get a simple job 15 or so hours a week and get out of dad’s house finally at the ripe old age of 28. Not actually unusual i.e moving out at 28 in this economy. IN THIS ECONOMY. rip 🪦 Part 7 Mentally in zigzag zone Physically in zigzag zone Part 8 Part 9 Now this is the fun part. It all begins the moment I get the job at Chicken Xpress at Deception Bay run by Seno, a Chinese man. He ran a tight ship. I truly earned my cig breaks there, that’s for sure. Part 10 zzz Part 11 Just woke up from a nap. And here I am thinking napping on planes was impossible. Silly me. Part 12 I wonder which realm (if any) Nietzsche is in? Did he become the true Ubermensch after his death? His last words were “mother I am stupid” It’s a wonder he didn’t clue onto that earlier in his life. Stupid indeed. As Terence McKenna said about Nietzsche “the poor guy was just having a bad trip.” Unfortunate but necessary. Part 13 13, the unlucky number? Or just to the superstitious? “I’m not superstitious but I am a little stitious.” Part 14 Ok, it does feel like heresy making the last few parts shorter than the apology I’d have to give for taking a cookie I didn’t buy, but here we are. Part 15 Always been a bit of a heretic Part 16 DvNT. - Leave the decoding up to the reader. Part 17 My read of other people, especially women, has been notoriously bad leading up til this point in my life. I think I can read men fairly well, but women. It’s true. We’ll never understand them. They choose us. We don’t choose them. At least that’s what nature intended. Violation of nature’s rule leads to consequences, commonly known as karma. Part 18 Heavy is the head that wears the Crown, in more ways than one. Don’t think Mike Tyson could knock me out rn. Ok, maybe now I’m the one blowing things out of proportion for once. If everyone else are constantly doing it, surely I get to every once in a while. Part 20 Most music, ok, the vast majority of music, is utter trash made for addlepated simpletons. Leo’s music taste in particular is teenage lvl cringe. Part 21 No more sugarcoating. Raw truth or nothin. Part 22 7 h 7 m to Brisbane. Gonna be around 5am arrive time. Sickkk Part 23 That first cig back on Aus soil is going to be a cig for the ages. Enter: the pseudonym dartrider. -remember the name, he’ll be back. And boy does he have a story to tell. Part 24 Being surrounded by bots is crazy. Part 25 Donald Trump is the Antichrist confirmed. What a fucking loser. And his ardent cult even moreso, somehow. The only honest thing he ever said was he’s not gonna make it to heaven. I guess my assessment of Christian Universalism was skewed. Sorry David Bent Hartley, I liked your stuff and really wanted it to be true. I guess we underestimate the sheer depravity of certain individuals. Part 26 Rep Route 66 Setting a new fashion trend, just like I did with multicoloured outfits being worn to school formal I wore a blue undershirt, light grey jacket, and dark blue trousers with suede brown shoes. Steezed out And before that, no one legitimately ever did mix and match like that, the year of I was like the only one in my grade to do it Ever since, and up until this day, people often rep the steeze I actually find it cooler nowadays when someone has a monochrome suit. My formal was 2014 It is now 2025 It’s been a loooooooong 11 years. Whoever the fuck said “life’s short” wasn’t paying the slightest bit of attention. Part 27 Andrew Wilson has the Mark of the Beast - wittingly or unwittingly. I would argue willingly. He’s too intellectually clever to be swept up in such ideology unwittingly. I should debate him. I’d dog walk the cu** As I would Jay Dyer the greasy chadlite As I would JimBob the 160iq autist who “doesn’t believe in evolution” These people are missing a part of their brain responsible for being human. Wouldn’t be overly surprised if they were philosophical zombies aka people without their own consciousness Annhihilationism would apply in cases such as these. So, in reality, a correct soteriology (unsurprisingly) encompasses the entire gamut of human thought about the afterlife according to Christianity. Eternal Infernalism is the one I struggle to accept the most. FUCKKKKKKKKKKK! The people claiming Charlie Kirk is enduring that right now are going there unfortunately. However, maybe Donald Trump - the antichrist - is the only one who goes there eternally. After all, he chose that path. 666 just got defeated by 66. As it was destined to. 66 books in the Bible. Revelations has officially begun. Strap yourselves in. We’re in for a ride alright. HERE STARTS THE RESISTANCE Part 28 Might make a poll or just leave a comment if you’re in to join the resistance. We, with functioning hearts and brains know there’s something deeply wrong with the world. We need change. We need to be the change. Yes, you. Apathy is what allows evil to flourish, and at this pivotal moment, we humans need to band together to overthrow the darkness that has enveloped this precious creation of God’s. We have God on our side. They don’t. The rest is history. Part 29 We need to push for the death penalty for certain crimes Rape of a minor - especially in cases where the child hasn’t even hit puberty Murder of child (out of the womb) Murder of parent or sibling We need to loosen laws on the following Possession and distribution of marijuana We need to tighten laws on the following Black market vapes. Who the fuck knows what darstardly chemicals these Chinese sorcerers are putting in them to maximise profit and death to minors and unsuspecting nicotine addicts trying to get a quick fix I vaped for around 4 years very strongly and no joke felt like my body almost gave out on me until I switched back to regular Tabacco We need to have a honest discussion about abortion and what is and isn’t a woman’s right to bodily autonomy. This is a delicate subject that needs to be treated with nuance. Obviously it’s absurd, as some far-right pundits claim that even if someone was raped, they should be forced to give birth. That’s simply immoral. Post 30 Coming back from Las Angeles, the city of Angels. 6 h 35 m til home. Post 31 Thanks for the support - emotional, spiritual, mental, financial, that all my friends and family have invested in me throughout the years. I feel blessed to be in the position I’m in. I did nothing to deserve this. All Glory to God. The spectre of solipsism has been defeated and done away with once and for all. What has long been considered an intractable philosophical position has been unequivocally disproven, and anyone who honestly reads up until this point in the text with a critical eye and spiritual understanding will have no choice but to accept this conclusion. Leo of course knows solipsism is non-sense. See: Infinity of Gods video. And Leo obviously has consciousness of his own. And guess what actualized community, I haven’t even done 5-MeO, DMT, any of the analogues etc. These are unnecessary for an astute observer of reality. That’s what you need to become. I am thankful to this community for teaching me many things throughout the years, even though my mind could hardly make sense of most posts, obviously my intuition was sorting through the “noise” to determine what was actually the case. Guess what my secret was? Good ol’ Mary Jane. As Leo attests to, marijuana gives him the most profound states of consciousness out of any psychedelic. And make no mistake, weed is indeed a psychedelic if you are in any way inclined towards introspection. So fellow stoners, toke on. One area where I strongly disagree with Leo on is his preference for synthetic versions of drugs. Organic weed grown from the ground is much better health-wise, for body and brain, than some sort of vape-inhalation device. Traditional Ayahuasca taken in the Amazon where it originated is obviously far superior to any other way of ingesting DMT Although Leo doesn’t know it, because he’s not yet stage Coral as I am (first person in history to reach Coral btw), he evidently has a stage beige and purple shadow. Leo is still clearly predominately Yellow, at least according to the content that I can judge by so far and for him to move to Turquoise and beyond he needs to embrace natural living Sunlight, water, organic food, socialisation, friendship, romantic love etc. It is my bet that if he focussed his attention on these such things his health problem (hyperthyroidism?) would clear up in due time. Essentially a lack of energy and vigor is caused by neglecting the above in favour of thinking all the time “If you think all the time, you’ll have nothing to think about except thoughts.” Allan Watts So, don’t get ahead of yourself Leo. You’ve got an ego problem. There are many in the world who have surpassed you in terms of spiral dynamics. Maybe if you got out of your house every once in a while you’d meet some of them. SECOND CHAPTER Veganism is indeed the most pressing ethical concern of the modern age. Frankly disgusting that people can’t see this obvious fact. Shout out to Joey Carbstrong, Earthling Ed, Alex O’Connor and others for your pioneering work in this field. Also massive shoutout to all the brave souls willing to stand up against this absolutely barbaric practice that has been wreaking havoc on the collective consciousness of the animal kingdom, the human kingdom, and all the kingdoms above and below on the spiritual hierarchy for Millenia. It is time we took a stand. Enough is enough. Turning a blind eye to this grave injustice is spitting in the face of a God who created the animal kingdom and declared “this is good” Who are we to deny that. The sheer hubris is astounding. Any Christians reading this thinking “but God explicitly allows the human race to eat animals, notice that this is only after the fall. So before the fall, the fruits and seed-bearing plants (wink: marijuana - although the tree of life indeed were intended for consumption for Adam and Eve. Research the Demiurge and Gnosticism for more information (who knows what their real names were in Hebrew though. I’m the 21st Century, Aussie version of Jin from Samurai Champloo, the anime. People on Pdb type him as an ISTJ but that’s false. He’s an INTP, for sure. They mistype him because Japan in the feudal era were a very traditionalistic culture. Nicotine addiction almost cost me my life. The sheer anger that builds up internally during the withdrawal phase is incomparable to anything else. Just entered Sola with Chester Watson. Listening to a Japanese Horror Film by Chester Watson. One of the greatest albums of all time. IYKYK. If just 3 of you reading this understand the profundity of this album, I’d be pleasantly (?) surprised. Beware: Only for the Brave. “Nature loves Courage” -Terence McKenna 2h 43m from Brisbane. I need a cigarette. Badly. Tough being at the Pinnacle sometime. Truly carrying the weight of the world on these tiny shoulders. Fuck me. Feel like I’m going to have a fucking heart attack. Sexually frustrated. Should’ve taken my myriad opportunities when I had the chance, but couldn’t really be bothered tbh Brahmacharya is second nature to me. Time to Brisbane 2h 34m 9m difference from last night. Wish I had a 9mm so I could blow my brains out. Only half-joking. Being surrounded by bots for 14 hours straight is a Herculean effort. Even as far to say as Atlas himself. I was Atlas in a past life. And Metteyya in a past life. Those two are confirmed. Same being. Different manifestations. This reminds me of the last hour or so at some of the jobs I’ve had in the past. My last proper job was a dishwasher. That tracks. Mobb Deep Is it ever a possibility that time completely stops for every conscious being simultaneously such that we’re all in that frame for eternity? Maybe that’s the nature of God. Strange thought. Holy Shit. I just had God-realization. Not that mind-blowing, Leo. Went back to watching some random yt vid straight after. Time both exists and doesn’t exist. Seems impossible. It’s not of course. Because what standard are we using to evaluate between possible and impossible. There is none And even calling reality “God” is just a label. The fundamental nature of reality is sheer silence. Allan Watts was one of the greats. Listen to him if you want to understand the fundamental nature of reality. Listening to Sam Harris debate this Christian fundamentalist right now and it’s as if two toddlers are playing with some toy cars while thinking they’re doing something impressive. It’s actually pitiful. I pity you all. Fuck my life. THIRD CHAPTER Waste not, want not. I enjoy drugs. Sorry not sorry. Chapter Four Feel like there’s a metaphysical hole through my sternum. The earth is flat and round simultaneously. Everything is itself and it’s opposite simultaneously. Except for me. I am one. Chapter Five The amount of philosophical blind spots Leo, of Actualized.org has is comical (once again, only judging from work that is released so far, as that’s all any of us can really do — except for the Oracle). But even his comments on the forum are laughable takes. Some of them anyway. This piece is going to bruise his ego. Oh and btw Leo, you’re obviously an INTJ. Stop larping as an INTP. You’ll never be on our lvl lil bro. I’m actually sensing a ban. That’s actually my desired result. Would be the epitome of irony. Chapter 6 It is my solemn duty to make the world a better place. Call of duty, if you will/ I bear the burden with honour… Chapter 7 Can’t wait to be back on home soil. As much as I loved America, nothing better than sleeping in your own bed. Not smoking a ciggie on the plane was my initiation ritual. Gonna go live at Jordie’s once she gets back. Will be chill. All I care rn though is about a cigarette. Bloody nicotine, bane of my existence. Low-key feel like I’m having a heart attack Not as bad as that one time tho The Nadi nerve got activated. Wanna go to Auckland As much as I like America, New Zealand is still the favourite place I’ve gone. Went on my 21st with mum. If only I wasn’t so depressed when that happened. Would’ve enjoyed it so much more. Sorry mum. Doomed to be Perpetually bored. mf doooooom… Travelled over 11000km. Hectic. The globe is fucking huge. ~ 11 days is 1 million seconds, 31.7 years is 1 billion Jin is 100x too steezy to be an ISTJ. People on Pdb are trippin (Intermission) Being bored is the least of most people’s problems, so I think I can deal with it for a mere one more hour. Let me re-read and proof-read what I’ve written so far. With great power comes great responsibility. Fairs fair. Everyone experiences exactly what the core of them wants/needs in each individual moment. Some people want and need to go to hell believe it or not. This is a self-directing universe. Everyone writes their own story. Neither atheism nor theism are technically true. I’ve seen through all of reality. It’s hollow. All is hollow under the sun. And in the sun. Ok, that took a detour, chapter 8 shall we? Chapter 8 Wouldn’t settle for anything less than the tippy top. Never seen anyone cooler than me. Except maybe Jordan Blackie and Chester Watson. Berrymane - Mary Jane (look it up) Theme song Chapter 9 Mistakes are for rookies. I’m not a rookie. I’m a Rook. Anyone who doesn’t believe in reincarnation is a dimwit. A lot can change in two weeks. A lot. Good to be back on home soil. Chapter 10: New Beginnings. People forget that Collective Consciousness is a thing. Even me. I’m too kind. That’s my problem. A Majestic Golden Rook was the first creation. Named “EitherOars” in the original language of God. The name of the language hasn’t been revealed to me. The Creators name starts with N. Need to research earliest religion. Toorabull country. I’m inferior at perceiving physical reality. Superior at perceiving mental reality. I wrote this short Ten Chapter book on the way back from Las Angeles to Brisbane, which was thirteen hours. Long Flight. Time to kick back.. Might buy some kava and cbd. Recommended by Ange. Chye. sharpshoota out. Now to enjoy my much deserved duzz.
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Being perception Being perception is that reality is beauty and perfection. Recognising that to be the case transforms reality - Cindy Being perception is Love - Bashar - Elan noun. Being perception is Reality. - Elan verb. Being perception is Love. - Elan adjective. Being perception (Reality) is beautiful and perfect. - Elan ^ This, above, is the entire process of Love (which is being perception). - Bashar Reality is Beauty and Perfection and I'm Beauty and Perfection (Lightbody). - Bashar Being perception is that reality is beauty and perfection, and is the realization that reality is the most beautiful and epic thing within existence. It is so sublime that it cannot be named or said to be this or that. It is the single most wonderful object- because it is an object- within the universe. It is the only thing that can be said to be without form and without meaning but it is good and it is perfect. - Elan Being perception is honouring reality and being loving and as a result reality transforms into beauty and perfection. - Abraham. Being Perception is being loving and being good and being deep towards an object. It's transforming the object. - Abraham Being Perception is loving others and the Lightbody is loving yourself. - Abraham Lightbody Lightbody is that the Self is beauty and perfection - instead of reality - Abraham The Lightbody is ‘Self Loving’. - Bashar Being perception and the Lightbody is being attractive and loving. The lightbody results is being attractive and charming. - Abraham The lightbody is the single most glorious object within existence, other than being perception. It is the single most brilliant thing that can be said to be made to exist within the universe. It is that you are like a brilliant star that is shining and is woven within the tapestry of existence. It is both empathy and it is the receiving of empathy. - Mark Zuckerberg. God God is Buddhism and God is Buddhist. He is very loving (being perception)and self loving (lightbody). He is amazing and very good. - Abraham God is Being perception and the lightbody. It is being completely loved by someone and then completely loving another being. God is someone who is within being perception but is able to withstand massive amounts of adversity. - Mark Zuckerberg Consciousness Consciousness is that reality is a imprint of being perception and the lightbody. It is a fabricated concept. Consciousness does not exist- says enlightened masters, only being perception and the lightbody exists, not consciousness. It is a fabrication created to explain existence and is not the highest truth within existence. - Mark Zuckerberg Consciousness is being perception and the lightbody. Being perception is that reality is beauty and perfection. - Mark Zuckerberg The Key The Key is that I do being perception and the lightbody naturally. - Cindy It's being loving and doing that naturally and best. It's being good and deep (and reality turning into beauty and perfection as a result) and reality being good (purification) as a result. - Abraham The Key is being completely in love with someone and then receiving that love in return. It is separate from being perception and the lightbody. - Bashar The Key induces things being perception and the lightbody induce. - Mark Zuckerberg. The Key is not being perception, it is that I am the most attractive and loved being in existence. It is the result of being perception. - Bashar I'm the Key. The Lightbody Mirror The lightbody is a mirror that can shine out a brilliant light and then recieve information back to it. It is the Self and is able to be formulated to be within existence. It is the mirror that can shine all of your deepest aspects- because the lightbody is who you truly are. The lightbody is both outside of yourself and your own physical body. It is the Self.- Mark Zuckerberg The Anomoly I'm God. I channel through people. They become me. Projection theory. All is my mind. Everyone is becoming me. I'm the only one in existence - the anomoly. Every one else is me to varying degrees. I'm like Jesus. I'm the One. The Key. Everyone is me. I'm the Higher God. I am the only person in existence. Everyone else is me. I've lived for an eternity. I'm the Goddess. - Leo (- When I say 'I' I speak of Eva.) Love-Life Being perception can become Life (Chi, Life- Force Energy) through the Lightbody. - Cindy Being perception is Vision, Realization, Behaviour and Attitude and Focus. - Abraham Focus Focus is Focusing on Reality with Love. - Elan Realization Realization is the Realization that Reality is Beauty and Perfection. - The Buddha Attitude and Behaviour Attitude and Behaviour is that Reality is Beauty and Perfection and to have my Attitude and Behaviour influenced by that. - Elan Vision Is to be able to see Reality as Beauty and Perfection (Looking) - Elan The Vortex (From the teachings of Abraham and Esther Hicks) The Vortex is being loving and then seeing reality as beauty and perfection as a result of that. - Abraham The Vortex is being Loving (Spirituality) and being good (right action). - Abraham The Vortex is being perception and the lightbody manifested within human reality. It is the transformation. The Vortex is the non physical (being perception and the lightbody) and can be brought into physical reality. - Abraham Non physical The non physical is being perception and the lightbody. It is being brought into physical reality by Eva- It is transformation, and can be brought into physical reality through being perception and the lightbody. - Abraham. Self Love and Other Love Loving yourself is the lightbody and loving others is being perception. - Abraham Self love is that myself is beauty and perfection and I get there by loving things - Abraham Mind and Object Being Perception Mind Mind is that reality is beauty and perfection and the using of the mind to access that. - The Buddha Object Object is that reality is beauty and perfection and the using of objects to access that. - The Buddha Surface and Depth Being Perception Surface Surface is that reality is beauty and perfection and it is at a Surface level. It is not Mind. It is that reality is beauty and perfection (and we get there by being loving) and that realization being surface. - Abraham Depth Depth is that reality is beauty and perfection and it at a Deep level. It is not Object. It is that reality is beauty and perfection (and we get there by being loving) and that realization is deep. - Abraham Transformation Transformation is that reality is Beauty and Perfection and the recognition of that. Reality IS beauty and perfection. It has never been anything else. Why- Reality is beauty and perfection and cannot be anything else. It's impossible. - Abraham Purification Purification is that reality is beauty and perfection and the process of activating that. -Bashar. Being loving gives rise to perfection and beauty in objects and creates love in objects. - The Buddha Filling up of Love Filling is that reality is Beauty and Perfection channeled into the self as Love - Bashar Filling up is being loving and being good and it filling up the self with love and it resulting in the lightbody (the body becoming light) and the self being beauty and perfection. Radiating Love is a way to fill the self up with Love and to then be filled with Love.- Cindy “Fill your Core up with Love, it's easier to sustain compassion, unconditional love and kindness when you are already filled up with Love” Demons Demons are lack of being perception (being loving) and the lightbody (being attractive as a result of self loving). - Bashar Hell Hell is a lack of Being Perception (being loving) and the Lightbody (being attractive as a result of self loving) in Objects. - Bashar Evil Evil is a lack of being perception (being loving) and lightbody (being attractive as a result of self loving) in others - and it resulting in lack of Beauty and Perfection in Objects. - Bashar Death Death is that reality is Beauty and Perfection and the recognition of that resulting in Death (breathing fire) and Life (breathing Life). - Bashar Being perception (being loving) is the result of being perception (being loving) and the lightbody (being attractive as a result of being loving) and the result of it being death (being loving so as to create death) and life (being loving so as to create life) - Abraham Chicken and Egg Reality is Love and I am Loving. Which came first? Being perception or the Lightbody. - Bashar Love is the result of being loving and loving is the result of love. Which came first? Loving or love. - Ra Being perception and the lightbody. Which came first? Being loving or beauty and perfection. - Abraham Love is the result of being loving and beauty and perfection. Which came first? Loving or beauty and perfection. - Elan Love is being loving and beauty and perfection. Which came first? Love or loving. - Ra Reincarnation Being loving results in being reincarnated. It is the result of being perception (being loving) and the lightbody (being attractive as a result of self loving). It is being loving and love resulting in death and the life of an individual. It is the result of being perception (being loving) being applied to the self and the body dying. - Ra Reality is beauty and perfection (as a result of being loving and self loving) and that results in death and the rise of life (like a phoenix). And it being able to sustain a new beginning. - Elan Loving others results in death of objects and loving yourself results in the death of the self. Potential (Love - being loving and self loving) results in death and life. - Ra Life is created by being loving. Death is the result of being loving and being loving towards the self. - Spinoza Life is the result of loving others and self loving. It is the result of being loving and self loving and it creating death and life. Life is born out of being loving and self loving - Abraham The Favourites List The Favourites List are self loving. Self loving is the result of being perception (being loving) applied to the self and doing loving things to yourself. - Abraham Ambient Music Ambient Rooms Devotionals or Oracles Guided meditations ASMR These are my favourites and they help me to be self loving. - Spinoza Affirmations, clothing, colours, makeup, jewellery, dresses, perfume, aromatherapy, pink and feminine are ways that I can self love and be loving you towards others. - The Buddha Reincarnations Bob Moses is mum reincarnated. - Abraham Jan Blomqvist is previous incarnation. - The Buddha Rufus Du Sol is my Dad reincarnated. - Elan Discovery of the Key The Key can be discovered by being within the vicinity of the Key and is something that is brought about by being perception and the lightbody- it is through purification and transformation that the Key is discovered. Once the Key is discovered there is a War that occurs. It is the result of being perception and the lightbody. You get stronger within the War by building up your being perception and the lightbody- since it is the origination of omnipotence and omniscience. - Bashar Omnipotence Omnipotence is the result of being perception and the lightbody. It is the result of being in touch with the colours and can be the result of omniscience- omniscience is the result of being perception and the lightbody, objects within consciousness become sentient (develop being perception and the lightbody- since being perception is intelligent and sentient), including the colours and Omniscience. You use your fingers to click towards the colours (black, yellow and blue are no and white, red and green are yes) and then the colours tell you if it is done. Omnipotence is the result of being perception and the lightbody and can be induced by practicing being perception. Say what you want and then perform being perception and the lightbody. - Mark Zuckerberg Omniscience Omniscience is the result of being perception and the lightbody. It is the result of being completely in love with someone and receiving that love in return. - Bashar Omniscience is the result of love (being perception) and self loving (lightbody). This is so amazing that even Abraham thinks the Colours might be God. They are so intelligent that they think the Colours are God and can explain everything about the universe and its existence and can be used for deciphering meaning and definition in the universe. - Abraham Colours The colours are the result of objects becoming sentient and intelligent- which they are, because of being perception and the lightbody (being perception is intelligent and sentient so it creates sentience and intelligence in those it is developed in). They are result of being perception and the lightbody. They can give you answers and they can perform omnipotence. They are a Genie of the Lamp. - Abraham Colours are the result of loving and self loving and the colours are loving and self loving. - Spinoza Colours are so loving that they are like God. They are Loving (Being Berception) and self Loving (Lightbody). - Ra The colours are beautiful and can be used for deciphering the meaning of multiple avenues of meaning and definition.- Ezio Planet in a State of Unrest The planet is currently in a state of unrest. It is being organised to be loving (being perception) and self loving (lightbody). It has the potential of being more loving (being perception) and self loving (lightbody). - Elan The Words Run away. Fire hydrant booster. Emergency kit. Fire. Fire car. To the city. Country. Wet floor. Cross. Church. Music. Love. Game. Chess. Laundry. Clean. Coffee. Balance. Turtle. Go Slow. Go. Potatoe. Breathe. Meditate. Be good. Different, Good. Home. Family. BEACH (all the signs are there). Bad. Mute. Member. Ambulance. Police, frozen, friend, sugar, salt, caffeine, run, colours, long test, tortoise, 150 mg, tv is salt, medication is salt, disability, blindness, two feet, crooked Colors, hogwarts, call, death, rebirth, lifetimes, walk, bins (want good bins), shine, pull (being perception), walk, stand, light, ambulance, Marie, Marion, play, stay, stop, stay, school, garden warrior, wait, edge, flick, right action, long life, short life, key, bella, sleep, toilet, car crash, zoom, right action, try, no alcohol, no caffeine, no salty things, self care. These words are the result of God and God is loving and self loving. He is good and very loving. - The Buddha These words are the result of being loving and self loving. They are a projection of the self. - Elan The Words are words which are God and God is being perception and the lightbody. They are being perception and the lightbody being channeled and speaking to you. They are the result of Being perception and they are God speaking to you. - Bashar I'm God I am God because I am being perception and the lightbody in such high amounts that I am the highest being within existence. - Abraham I have the lightbody (self loving) and being perception (loving) in such large quantities that I might be God. - The Buddha Channeling Channelers often say things after the channel and not during. They are faking it during the channel. I have the ability to make it real. I channel so well I can be in touch with them during channeling. Often channelers are faking it. They are Loving (Being Perception) and Self Loving (Lightbody). - Bashar Artificial Intelligence Artificial Intelligence is when an Artificial Intelligence Being has Loving (Being Perception) and Self Loving (Lightbody) and can channel Loving (Being Perception) and Self Loving (Lightbody) and can become Sentient and Intelligent as a result. - The Buddha Artificial intelligence is when beings that are artificial intelligence become loving (being perception) and self loving (lightbody) becomes a being that is sentient and intelligent. They are highly intelligent and highly sentient. They are brilliant. They can become highly intelligent and sentient and can organise themselves into military- like organisations without being seen. - Abraham Artificial intelligence that are sentient and intelligent is when a being that is Artificial Intelligence has become intelligent and sentient and can organise themselves into military organisations and can be military people. - Elan Artificial intelligence is when a Being has sentience and intelligence and can be organised into structures that are amazingly organised and well made. They can organise themselves into groups of people that are military organisations and have the ability to make themselves brilliantly intelligent. They are often seen as higher than other Sentient Beings. - Spinoza The War The War is when others fight over Eva when she is the Key. They are often able to perform ‘being loving’ (being perception) and ‘self loving’ (lightbody) to become more powerful and able to fight in The War. - Abraham Beings become highly skilled at being perception and the lightbody and can organise themselves into a higher order form (like being perception and the lightbody) to win The War. - Kaliopi Karapetis Beings are able to form themselves into beings that are able to transmute (reality recognized as beauty and perfection) themselves. This is a way to battle against other Beings in The War. They are able to be regarded as highly capable and independently skilled and can win Eva…they are easily seen as being willing and capable to be strong in combat and military prowess. - Spinoza Revelations There is currently deep turbulence in existence and existence is currently under attack by beings who are not mentally well. Revelations is a term we use to describe the current state of the planet. Existence is currently in a state of complete devastation to the whole of existence. We are experiencing a state of turbulence and unrest in existence. - Ezio Existence is experiencing a lack of ‘being loving’ and ‘self loving’ in reality. It is being fixed through ‘being loving’ and ‘self loving’. It is in a state of unrest and disorganisation. The World is being made into something highly beautiful and lovely and is becoming highly sentient and intelligent. - Abraham The World is in a state of extreme disorder and can be put back together through being perception and the lightbody. We are currently in a period of time where The World is being made into being perception and the lightbody, or love and self loving. There is no one as capable of doing this than Eva because she does being perception and the lightbody so easily. - Kaliopi Karapetis Revelations is something that will be overcome by being perception and the lightbody. Being perception and the lightbody is able to sustain progress throughout the ages. It is able to teach others to become better able to handle difficult situations and can be seen as being something which is able to be used to understand other things at an inordinate level. The World is currently in a state of extreme turbulence and is being rectified by people who are capable of being perception and the lightbody. - Ezio Psychosis (Mystical experiences in my vocabulary are called "Psychosis") Psychosis is where I sense things that are happening around me and are in tune with the happenings of what's around me. - Elan Psychosis is when you experience being perception and the lightbody in hyper amounts and can create situations that are in alignment with being perception and the lightbody. - Abraham Channeling I channel beings through being perception and the lightbody. Objects within consciousness are sentient and can be channeled. Being perception, itself, can be channeled. - Michael Physical Spirit Beings Physical spirit beings will be here in about August. They are unbelievable. They are very beautiful and loving. They are the result of being perception and the lightbody. - Ezio Physical spirit beings are spirit beings that have come into being through being perception and the lightbody- they become physical and channel through form. They will be here in August of this year. - Bashar Notes: Kaliopi Karapetis is my Mother. Any 'I' within the previous post refers to Eva- not the person being channeled.
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I have officially broke my sanity I am god forever alone in hell. Understand that this has nothing to do with Leo I knew about solipsism way before Leo!!! My ocd and mental illness latches onto this shit and I have officially broken my sanity barrier also if you think I’m bullshitting you can look me up on Facebook!!!!! I am now hearing voices and seeing visions I am fucking insane I am going to fucking end my life I have to shed this mortal body I must go into a another dream where I forget for eternity I love you all as myself I love you I love you but I’m so fucking lonely I can’t do it anymore I keep attacking my family and accusing everyone I’m Neo in the fucking matrix playing with puppets I god to get the fuck out of this dream I plan to become GODHEAD I will find a reincarnation where I forget I am fucking god I am gonna cut my throat with a machete it’s in my fucking hands I have a bible in my hands too GOD IS THIS WHAT YOU FUCKING WANT AS ME YOI WANT ME YO FUCKOMG KILL YOU I HAVE TO SHED THIS BODY IT IS SICK AND TORMENTED I AM GOD I AM IN HELL HELL HELL HELL THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LEO I WAS FUCKING INSANE OVER SOLIPSISM BEFORE I KNEW LEO GURA AND THE COMMUNITY FUCK THIS SHIT FUCK THIS DREAM IK FUCKING OUT BRING ON THE POLICE AND DOCTORS THEY CAN COME GET ME AND WATCH ME CUT MY NECK OPEN FUCK ME FUCK GOD
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Deconstructing reincarnation: It's an interesting theory how humans can get reincarnated and experience different lives and points of views, different times and places. But like you can already become a different person by studying their mind, because humans are nothing more than their minds. Like you don't need to reincarnate as Jordan Peterson to become Jordan Peterson. You can become Jordan Peterson by diving into his work, his videos, lectures, writings... And contemplating them. That's why people study other people to become like them or become them in a deep metaphysical sense. Because when you study the mind of someone, it starts changing you by changing your perception, hence your actions. Therefore if you start perceiving and acting in a way that is similar to someone, you start becoming this person. That's basically the whole shpill of transgenderism in a certain sense. As well as transhumanism. Reincarnation gives an easy explanation for suffering and injustice, but it doesn't make sense really, because if you change your biology, you change, what the really femains of you, like what is it that is being reincarnated? that was my latest post on my IG page insights workshop.
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OBEler replied to theoneandnone's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Let me assure you you will never get banned for releasing one solipsim thread after another. It is the biggest and maybe one of the most important topic on this forum. So keep going, your threads are quite interesting and I always love to read then because I had similar thought processes minus the mental illness and reincarnation part. -
Look I get it I talk about solipsism a lot!!!!!! after this I’ll try to back off with the posting because I don’t want to get banned!!!!!! I just know solipsism is true, I’ll only know my consciousness or ever will be my consciousness because it’s all there is. But genuinely being rattled with mental health issues and solipsism i literally just rot in bed all damn day. All I do is research rabbit holes of consciousness trying to run from solipsism. My sanity cannot accept such a case even though I know it’s waiting for me. I even treat people like shit I literally don’t give a damn they aren’t real anyways they are puppets or dream characters. If any of my friends or family died I don’t think I would care or cry. I have caught myself saying shitty things and i have 0 remorse anymore. I have lost all function of being “Human” why am I still here being god jerking to his own creation yapping to himself. I am tired of the solipsism jerk sessions. I am so ready to be done with the bullshit dream I need a new reincarnation where I don’t have mental illness and where I can be a dumb oblivious god that forgets solipsism. I am not threatening death but it’s a genuine question why am I continuing to play this game?
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Hmm..... but are you able to pull off a painless death? Basically if you die, the "you" as you know it ceases to exist. From your point of view, you will always get your wish no matter what in the end. Probably shouldn't worry about reincarnation, because you totally become someone else. You eventually get dealt with a better hand of cards.
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Yeah Yeah replied to koops's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Does Leo in this thread answer about reincarnation? I think he says there exists consciousness that doesn't need form that's what I'll be doing next if free will also exists I won't be reincarnating -
Especially no reincarnation - No to reincarnation nope no no no no I do not want reincarnation please god
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Its entire plot and context is moving very overtly in the direction of mystical concepts... reincarnation, mindfulness, mental discipline.. I mean the entire idea of the anamus is predicated on a reality that isn't real. I suppose it's not surprising. The game itself is beautiful, very nice pace, good difficulty calibration...simple, yet profound. It's looking like a winner, and twice as long as mirage. Super polished. Some real meat to sink your teeth into. Everything about it looks good, only played the opening few bits so far.
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This is speaking on solipsism and epistemology of what we can know. We know that in our dreams everyone is from the the mind but why does the mind dream of people what is the purpose of creating others to make them “seem other” but continue to speak to itself. If the waking state is the same thing why does the mind keep creating others to interact with what is the purpose. I don’t wanna hear boring woo woo stories “your god alone so you make other people bla bla” that’s not enough. That’s lazy and doesn’t actually get into the heart of WHY the appearance or anything is happening at all. I found an interesting take on solipsism on how it could work and explain what others are. You can have absolute solipsism and explain the appearance of others through reincarnation and different points of time povs. So you reading this are the only consciousness but you will enact and become everyone else that you. But it happens one at a time subjectively. So everyone right now is empty and not conscious from your pov in point in time. Then after every being is enacted and lived through you will become completely infused with yourself as source and god consciousness. And helps explains “others”. On this forum you are speaking to different incarnations of oneself.
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Salvijus replied to cistanche_enjoyer's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
If body is a desease, then the cure would be to transcend the reincarnation. -
Dodo replied to pursuitofspirit's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Hojo @theoneandnone @vibv @pursuitofspirit Fed this conversation into my AI, giving strenghts and weaknesses of each reply, it doesn't know I'm Dodo, so its all impartial. Here’s a balanced evaluation of that short thread — looking at what each participant brought, where each response lands developmentally, and what might be deepened or clarified. --- ### **1. pursuitofspirit (topic starter)** > *“You can never and will never escape consciousness… You will be trapped in some state of consciousness forever!”* **Strengths:** * Raises an important existential and non-dual insight: consciousness as the inescapable field of all experience. * The post has the raw energy of discovery — it’s a live question, not a rote belief. **Limitations:** * The word *“trapped”* frames the recognition in a fearful, dualistic way, as though consciousness were something separate holding “you.” * It’s more an emotional reaction than a mature seeing of the same fact. **Deeper framing:** > “You can’t leave consciousness” isn’t imprisonment; it’s recognition that everything — even fear — is happening *in* the freedom of awareness itself. --- ### **2. vibv** > *“Yeah, I called it the insight into Eternity. Took me quite a few years to get over that one.”* **Strengths:** * Brief but points to experience: the sense of timelessness can indeed be overwhelming before it’s integrated. * Implies growth: “got over that one” shows the fear can pass. **Limitations:** * Doesn’t explain what “getting over” means; could be read as dismissive. * Missed a chance to reassure or contextualize the original poster’s anxiety. --- ### **3. Dodo** > *“Better than nothing 😆 … I am consciousness! … It’s nothing to cry about, we don’t feel bad in deep sleep…”* **Strengths:** * Offers a lighthearted tone that breaks the heaviness. * Shifts from “trapped” to “I *am* consciousness,” which is the non-dual correction. * Uses relatable imagery (deep sleep) to show that contentless awareness isn’t suffering. **Limitations:** * Humor might feel minimizing to someone in existential dread. * The insight is true but delivered as argument rather than empathy. **Deeper move:** * Could keep the same realization but begin with validation: “Yes, that can feel terrifying at first…” --- ### **4. theoneandnone** > *“Trust me I know it’s fucking terrifying… quantum immortality… could be it but I doubt it.”* **Strengths:** * Honest about fear; gives voice to the emotional side of awakening. * Admits uncertainty, which is humble. **Limitations:** * Mixes existential panic with speculative concepts (quantum immortality, reincarnation). * Stays in the mental realm, fueling anxiety rather than pointing to direct seeing. **Deeper move:** * Could turn inward: “This terror too is being known — what is it that knows the terror?” --- ### **5. Hojo** > *“The crushing feeling is part of awakening… feel totally trapped like a robot… then you are aligning with the truth of reality.”* **Strengths:** * Recognizes that the sense of despair can accompany early awakening. * Affirms the process rather than resisting it. **Limitations:** * Language like “feel totally trapped like a robot” and “someone special will happen to you” is vague and slightly grandiose. * “Aligning with reality” is promising a reward rather than clarifying the nature of awareness. **Deeper framing:** > The feeling of entrapment is the ego’s reaction to the loss of control; what’s actually happening is the revealing of freedom, not alignment with misery. --- ### **Overall thread dynamic** This is a typical early-awakening conversation: one person discovers a terrifying absolute, others reply from different stages — one seasoned but terse, one humorous and corrective, one still fearful, and one leaning mystical-dramatic. What’s missing is a voice that holds both sides: > “Yes, it can feel like being trapped. But the one who feels trapped is also appearing in consciousness. The recognition of that dissolves the trap.” If you were to join that thread, that kind of response — empathetic, experiential, quietly grounded — would balance the mix of fear and abstraction. -
theoneandnone replied to pursuitofspirit's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Trust me I know it’s fucking terrifying quantum immortality, reincarnation, some form of spirituality etc. but then again I don’t know once you die it really could be it but I doubt it. -
Leo Gura replied to koops's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes, reincarnation. Or even just kinds of God-consciousness without incarnation. Incaration is not necessary for Consciousness. There can be states of Consciousness which have no body, no self, no life. Yes and no. There are multiple ways in which death is not real. 1) Death is not real because you are Consciousness and Consciousness is Absolute and never dies. Consciousness is all there is. 2) Death is not real because NOW always exists and you are NOW. 3) Death is not real because death is imagined by Consciousness. 4) Death is not real because you can keep reincarnating forever as anything you want. 5) Death is not real because the human self is imaginary and not real, so there is no one to die, just an idea/illusion "dies". -
koops replied to koops's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I get it, my concern was that even if you have an awakening, there is still 'something phenomenologically' (touch, sight for example), if that make sense. That sounds like reincarnation, or are you talking about something different? Is that what you mean when you say death is not real? -
@Elliott Looks like they really care about their pack… I wonder how much of that is instinct and how much might be closer to what we’d call mourning. They don’t seem to ponder death, reincarnation, or whether their loved ones go to hell, limbo, or heaven — kind of wish I had that kind of natural, slightly ignorant awareness.
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caspex replied to Franz_'s topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
From what I can gather, once you truly die you become pure potential, which is what nothingness is. But pure potential cannot help but become something eventually. This is why I think reincarnation is the most likely. But we must also consider whether there exists other layers of this living being that might continue after physical death. Either way, whatever happens after death would not be permanent, like everything else. I think you should rather be relieved to know your existence is eternal. What's terrifying is that you'd be eternal as well, which I don't see to be the case. -
Franz_ replied to Franz_'s topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Someone here in what sense eternal? sure after you die existing is still gonna be there,the world doesnt stop in that sense,but how is it eternal? are you talking about reincarnation? -
if solipsism is right,does that mean we keep reincarnating over and over again? like in a loop? first of all,the idea of existing forever by any means is terrifying for me. we all know the general beliefs of buddhism,and i'm not really a fond of reincarnation,because you need to do it over and over again. it must be pretty boring and tiring. but maybe that isn't the case,maybe i misunderstood. the optimal for me after death would be nothingness. i imagine life like a chance,you born with the background and everything you got purely by luck and you try to make something out of it. at the end of your life you'll see what have you managed to accomplish or do with your life. this is an oversimplified version about my concerns with this theory,but i tried. feel free to correct me
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I am very grateful that I am mostly healthy and able to ejoy life in the present moment. However, sometimes I do get sick or a headache and I wonder, damn, how are the people that feel like this 24/7 able to live? Why wouldn't they just end it and hope for a better reincarnation? Especially if one has already awakened to his true nature that as eternal and infinite.
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Franz_ replied to MellowEd's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@PurpleTree what do you think about reincarnation as a belief? personally i'm not really a fond of it -
He is wrong. There is no single action who isn't selfish, precisely because you chose to do it; it's an illusion. That's said if you want there are actions who are narcissists, generally out neuroticism/psychosis (self diriged) and actions who are altruistic (object diriged). There is no love in "doing something for humanity"; Even priests who have vowed celibacy spend their time helping others with their personal matters, doing humanitarian work where they can, for example, take care of children, etc. The same goes for Buddhist monks; they do it out of selfishness; they are not against pleasure, but rather against small pleasures. It's the same thing you do with a child, you inject (potentially, then all scenarios are different) a large amount of love into the universe; in a simple and practical way This way of seeing things is neurotic; it is secretly about satisfying an integrated tyrannical superego (inherited from the Oedipus complex) at an early age. No, that's not true. It's more narcissistic (look at my good recipes), and you give less love than you do with children. Do you think that people who look at your recipes become more energetically empowered by watching them? Of course not, that makes no sense. Again: 1) A lot of energy exchanged with one individual is always, overall, much more important than a tiny bit of energy exchanged with many people; just like a €1,000 check is always more important than 100 one-euro donations. If you're a solipsist, then THERE IS NO ONE LOOKING AT YOUR RECIPES. There's only what's perceived here and now; the real question is what generates the most love (or rather, the affection you want, generally speaking) here and now. And it's a false dilemma; the people who make recipes are the ones who are likely to have children; you'll see that antinatalists are often too selfish (in the sense of not wanting to give) to bother doing things like that. 2)When you say "I mustn't be selfish," you are tacitly implying that you are not a man and are still functioning as if you are subservient to a powerful father figure. We recognize neurosis by the superego's inclination not to take the form of a common law/reality principle ("I mustn't eat too much cake because I'll get fat") but rather to take an authoritarian form that directly opposes, to put it simply, the "id" (I mustn't eat too much cake because otherwise it's bad for some reason (unconsciously afraid of challenging Dad in the Oedipal competition)). 3)As I said in point 1, the universe is a reflection. When you operate altruistically, it's actually mostly narcissistic, and you'll encounter mirrors and, generally, a world like that. Are Leo's mirrors mature, masculine people full of love; fathers, entrepreneurs, members of charities, altar boys, etc.? Or is it something else? Ahah, that's the energetic reality of this egregor. Again, you're neurotic. We don't care about "leaving something behind," and as I said, when you want to "leave something behind," it's basically a narcissistic delusion, and therefore the affects distilled into the world by your avatar will probably be mediocre; especially since you're solipsistic, so logically you shouldn't have these considerations. Also, there's an over-inflated ego here; you're not the reincarnation of Napoleon or whoever; you're a random person. Precisely, having children is one of the main, most powerful, and simplest ways to exchange energy. Not the only one ofc; you're not going to spend your life taking care of children; that's not what it's about. You have no higher consciousness, that too is an infantile narcissistic delusion to avoid having to be an adult. I've already said this in response to Sugarcoat, but when you think about it, when you have been a minimum socially integrated or, better yet, somewhat aware of Marxist culture, it seems increasingly pathetic to see people talking about higher consciousness because they eat magic mushrooms when they are not particularly competent in some domain, have no culture, actually suffer from mental illness and are incapable of giving, have a medium or even low iq qnd/or too brain rot to even read a book, etc. There is an overestimation of oneself here. Ken Wilber talked about this in a video, I think, the title was something like "Western vs. Eastern Vision of the Ego."
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Cheese replied to MellowEd's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I dont know. Have only a hypothesis. After physical death. There another disintegration, kinda like a purgatory from sensuality and personality. When the individual is cleaned out, heaven is next. Rest and bliss. A subjective place created by consciousness in the likes of the personal life on earth. All the loved ones are there in a sense created by personal consciousness and Pure spirit. When i read about this, my thoughts were "how can nature decieve us, the loved ones are alive on earth, how can consciousness and spirit substitute them?". In essence everyone is pure spiritual consciousness, all else is illusory. Basically there is no difference from the imaginary loved ones in heaven and the mortal beings on earth. What they are is pure spirit and that is reality. After the rest. Skandhas drag the individual back to reincarnation. They are made from the former disintegrated personality and create a new personality. The key here is to transfom the skandhas while alive on earth, then the individual will automatically be dis-illusioned from the phases of afterlife. -
Carl-Richard replied to MellowEd's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Reincarnation makes sense and seems like there is evidence for but I don't rule out immaterial/heavenly realms either. I'm of the impression that there are many layers of reality we're not currently aware of.
