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I agree a lot with those words lately after my last mushroom trip. I feel like anyone expecting that it's all perpetual bliss will be very mistaken. Enjoy the human life you have right now. You might not realize how good you have it.

Man imagine how hard it would be to stay calm when someone is cutting open your chest. I have no idea how people can achieve such levels of acceptance. It's one thing to achieve constant peace, bliss and equanimity in health, and another in the face of pain. Just adding this to the convo.

@Leo Gura @ivankiss Yes, I agree with Leo, it is a good advice. When I read "Dear Lover: A Woman's Guide to Men, Sex, and Love's Deepest Bliss" I was crying so much over that book. His books touched my heart so deeply, I had goose bumps on my skin when reading him. He describes this divine intimacy between men and women. I absolutely love David's philosophy about love, sex and relationship. You can find him on a YT as well. Now, @ivankiss, no matter what you do, it is impossible to completely shield yourself from Love when it comes from your heart. Being vulnerable requires courage, but it makes you invincible. If you guys love each other, go for it, do not be scared. You will grow so much stronger. So what if you are hurt at the end? If your heart stays open you will eventually attract a long-term partner who is on the same wavelength with you, through trial and error, a lover who will make you happy. But to truly understand and form your inner feminine, you need to have experience and date other people. Every person leads you to your ultimate lover who will lead you to God.

Really? Andrew Tate looks happy to you? From an elevated perspective, he is an insecure, miserable, egomaniac, low-consciousness chimp who thinks he is the king of the world. Turmoil inside and far from bliss. People like Tate need the 'open your eye' slap Dr. Strange had in the Marvel movie. Who looks happier in the scene, the Ancient One or Dr. Strange?

I have read his book transcending the levels of consciousness many times and it has alot of truth in it in my opinion and also in the scale. The problem is that he indeed made a number system out of it, the scale and the emotions expressed are way more complicated than people think. An example: State of ecstasy/mdma 560-600 , where you start having love for everyone and become more social loving, the world around you looks more in loving/golden colors. I had this state naturally when i had my spiritual awakening during clinical psychologist interview that i wrote about when i joined the forum, the world also looked completely different and the room went from dark to golden colors just as in mdma. The difference however was, that i also had unconditional love/bliss for her and the miracles/synchronicities were being observed constantly. During my LSD session with a friend, i could clearly see how i was creating my own reality expressing certain high vibe emotions that pulled me to higher dimensions in consciousness. If i would get anxiety for example for 10sec, everything would drop and i would come back to my own reality that i was living in that looked more dark. The higher emotions you express/feel on the scale, the greater jump in consciousness because each high vibe emotion leads you closer to unity=god Edit: And i also had an awakening of truth during LSD, it showed me that consciousness is alive and always knows what the real truth is so this might correlate to his muscle testing somehow. Why? Have you ever wonder or seen or experienced, when a kid is getting bullied or teased or grabbed when he did nothing wrong, asked many times the bully to stop? Then suddenly he gives the bully a light push and the bullies flies meters away. I have experienced this before gave a gentle push because i wanted him to stop and he flew away like 6 meters from me weighing much more than me, and this can be correlated to his muscle testing somehow. I have also heard stories from my friend about this phenomenon . The reality is more complicated than you think.

You know, for a long time being raised Christian I struggled with the grace of God and how it worked with the idea of "being a good person" (otherwise known as good works). For a long time after I started to see that good works would get me very little with god in reality, i kind of gave up on moral living altogether and just lived like that. This was unintentional, but I sort of just let it continue and never really returned to why selflessness is better than selfish living... Why be good? Why be positive? Why live in a selfless fashion...? I was watching Leo's "Zen devil part 1" video and a big insight hit me and I realized that I need to contemplate it more, so here's my insight from about a decade of study from the Christian perspective and from the new-age nondual perspective...I feel like my fervent history in both practices gives me a unique vantage point on the matter...let me know your thoughts if you wish... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ultimately, you'll discover that enlightenment isint realistically attainable by simply moralizing or being a moral individual...and that moralizing can actually become very religiously dogmatic and a distraction to true self enquiry and realization. Subsequently the question arises..."Why be good at all?" The answer is: you don't have to be...but true transformational enlightenment will fill you with love for everyone and everything and (importantly) the way in which you can differentiate between ("do it because i know i should") [what could be called] "shallow selflessness" and "true selflessness"...is the source from which it flows, and that true selflessness flows automatically. Imagine an outdoor, brick wall that was built without cement, and was instead supported with wooden stands and support beams...because of the lack of cement available, the wall would easily fall over without the manual wooden supports, but after a while the wall will have been there for so long that the algae, ivy, rainfall and natural elements of the environment will have pressed down on, and grown around the bricks so much that the wall fuses together to the point where it can stand on its own and support itself automatically, and where the manual wooden stands are no longer required and can be removed without fear of the walls collapse. In this metaphorical picture... The walls stability, is Selflessness, The lack of cement, is Natural Immaturity, The wooden support beams, are the Manually Cultivated Habits/Outlets for Selflessness, …and the natural elements are Gods nature (which is also our true nature). It would be a major mistake to fail to recognize that, while true stable selflessness flows automatically from deep a transformation (being exposed to God), the *process* of transformation itself is most definitely not as automatic and often requires manual effort and strong support initially. Therefore it is not a bad thing to seek outlets for selflessness and to manually guide yourself to engage in those selfless habits [knowing the benefits that come with selflessness] because, before long, these habits, outlets and principals will begin to sustain and support themselves simply because it will literally start to feel amazing in contrast to the selfish alternative. Boiled right down, the insight is this: False Selflessness = Forcing yourself *into* selfless shapes. True Selflessness = Relaxing into alignment with, and flowing with the natural shape of your selfless nature that exists authentically and effortlessly within. The key supplementary insight here is recognizing that the thing that governs whether your selflessness is true or false, is the source from which it flows and rather than doing it because someone told you to...relaxing, flowing with and submitting to the selfless nature that *already* exists within...and seeing that some [or even a lot of] manual support and rearrangement of your values, actions and core principals and submitting to your selfless inner nature is different than forcing yourself into repetitive "good works"...that some manual guidance into selfless actions is healthy because it will eventually stimulate and cultivate a bliss and peace that will sustain the selfless way of life and eventually become more and more effortless. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I see, sounds very nice. Also, I just had an experience where I disconnected from the body and became spacious bliss and felt a body high / euphoria not in my body but in the space that I am, and I had a realization that I am God. I don't know if your posts helped to trigger this sudden experience, but if it did, thank you

Yeah that's what a good vision should get you. The real problem is how to not fall back into low consciousness which can be solved by a spiritual practice and surrendering to the truth. Also one more point we should not get our positive energy from short term sources like music entertainment ect. At least not a primary source of course. We should seek God's light the never ending source of joy & bliss.

Enlightement is still a dream and buddhism in its general form doesn't go all the way to God realization. What is God Realization - Its simple to realize you are God - Literally God - And everything is inside your Mind - You have been lost for eons in your own dreamfield - Now is the time to wake up? But you think "I wanna wake up and be in peace and bliss and never live in fear again". Are you sure? For sure there is a part of you that truly wants it, but also parts that will do everything in its power to withhold you from this truth. You know why? Because death will arise not as a concept but Actual death! Insanity - Infinity is total insanity - Fear, oh my all kinds of fears will arise - Fear in its natural and pure form will challenge you - so what are you truly after? You after the Truth never forget! It's Truth you seek, what your inner most Heart seek - Not money - Women - Men - Fame - Secriuty..... It's funny to me that Leo is bashing tradional awakening a lot and I see wisdom and guidance in that - You see he is leading you towards the Absolute and all powerful Truth - Which is, as you guessed Total Absolute Pure Infinite Consciousness - Real God Consciousness - Only if you want it - The gift is yours to take - But remember Reality goes full circle - So whether you think "Dude, I just want a normal and good self actualizing life filled with fun, love and you fill the blank". I am spoiling it for you - Thats not what will bring you joy beyond this world - Life is pointless in the Absolute - But you see it's not about points and meaning - Love is the end and beyond - Love in it self is the biggest meaning you can contribute to your life. Haven't you wondered why you are here? This particlur life - That Truth is yours to realize. Only when you grow tired of this circus that is egoic life will you see the deep urge in your heart to put all your eggs in this basket. I welcome you.

My interpretation of this is from my awakenings - you are both God and also an individual soul. God places "partitions" that don't even really exist, bubbles like in a soda pop almost, so that it can spread out and witness itself in as many different lenses as it possibly can. You are connected to everyone else through God's "energy". The higher up you go in your development, the more aware you become of the various aspects of this process. I liken the experience of souls to the image above. The bugs on the window look like little lace angels to me. They are all connected in unison to God's Light and sing it's praises. Those who are aware of their nature, they almost sing, you know? It's such a beautiful thing to be connected to everyone in this way. I chose the song here, because it sounds to me like a chorus of souls, and the little floating lights remind me of them ascending as well. I believe, that the more you learn, the more interconnected you become, until these partitions vanish and it all becomes one thing. That is the ultimate goal. The true nature of the soul is as follows - it is an imaginative quality to it - we are designed to break free from the constrains of this reality through introspection and self love - and we eventually let go of the need for physicality, and the soul "remembers" that it has this quality to it - that it can imagine anything, become anything. Sometimes I find a song can help, this offers a lot of visuals into the nature of the soul. Also, if you want more understanding - I recommend Sri Aurobindo and Jane Robert's Seth Material. Hope this helps somewhat. Break me in don’t break me down Swimming in these empty towns I wonder if it’s all some master plan Diving into sweeter bliss Fallin’ before we miss Taste the taste before it’s gone and you’re too late Won’t change what I am To find who you are Can’t stay in these lines When I’m bursting at the seams My body might collapse If I carry one more dream I could be anything

The part that isn't taken seriously is removal of suffering as a form of fundamental love, not suffering itself but it's continued and infinite perfect removal, perfect removal implies that it keeps getting removed and therefore is part of what retains forms and time, this is what I've felt and thought. One mistake is assuming that removal of suffering ends and then you're in unconscious bliss, another mistake is thinking that removal of suffering can't be pleasurable and another mistake is thinking that considering these first two truths it isn't possible to be just bliss, it is possible, but it's bliss with this particular shape in this universe, the perfect pleasure that increases in quantity and shapes itself through the removal of suffering which necessitates suffering as type of resource that you don't suffer, it just creates a shape and makes time real I don't how or why but it's definitely related to movement and speed itself(at all levels obviously) because of many bizarrely simple reasons. You could say the masculine energy is that which is fine with and attains any quantity of pleasure regardless of the suffering because it is already removing all of it, therefore it's relationship with suffering is conscious and it's relationship with pleasure is unconscious. The feminine force feels a bit more complicated, it's more about taking any pleasure and improving it and ignoring suffering and just shifting to types of pleasure that have the minimum suffering attached, there's more to it but right now it's what's coming out of my mind. You can kind of see how removal of suffering and refinement of pleasure connect when you have suffering and pleasure lying around just like unconscious elements that actually can't even exist in time by themselves at least in this universe. The natural property of the feminine like reproduction like quality of pleasure automatically increases the quantity of anything, to break it's own limits, that is when it is flowing in time, it connects to suffering by connecting to additional types of pleasure, like peanut butter connects to nutella, two pleasures clash/mix and then they need parts of it removed which is where the problem solver, suffering removal acts on the two pleasures and organizes the parts that aren't meshing so that it comes a new super pleasure, both in quantity and quality and utility and whatever absurd complexity arises, of course the feminine also as power over the masculine, it can choose induce pleasures, or in other words increase the quantity of the specific masculine energy that it needs so that it's masculine energy removes what it needs removed and of course "later on" it gets more and more complex, so with the two mixed which is what we see most of the time specially if we focus only on life it gets to the point where obviously it also removes pleasure itself, it has that jurisdiction because it is removing suffering that is entangled in that pleasure, and hence here we are the disturbed masculine and feminine that have rights over one another, one is like yeah why not just increase pleasure infinitely, then the other is like yeah but you can have all pleasure anyway if all suffering is removed, not realizing that because of time you can get to infinite types of pleasure with zero delay with zero suffering in infinite quantities, and the pleasure oriented energy not realizing that it would have infinite "speed" of pleasure, it doesn't need to be limited to itself. There is a other beyond 1 infinite pleasure, there are infinite pleasures that connects through removal of suffering. Anyway I'm already sounding a bit crazy even for this place this was pretty cathartic as usual, I usually just type "crazy" stuff exactly of this nature but don't post, I'm feeling good today though so here I go, as long as someone understands even 5% (which they probably do) I'm satisfied.

Its definitely short lived, but the quality and insight into the nature of infinite is completely there. Devine bliss afterwards. Interesting. I notice a similar quality to nitrous oxide when I hit a super cold shower. No breakthrough, but the quality is similar.

For me it has been mainly just complete and utter fast ego death, but I didn't become conscious of various facets with it. Though the last time I did nitrous I didn't even know about there being any facets, I was mainly going for ego death, god, love, bliss, and that's it. I did enter a nondual state a few times though. It doesn't feel too fast during it, because during that time time ceases to matter, but afterwards it can feel like it is a bit too short lived. I would say its closer to a feeling of divine bliss, at least personally I wouldn't be in a state to become conscious of different facets, it would be too strong for me to be capable of doing something like that, it just feels like a complete blast-off.

Yeah I knew this was true from when I took supplements with nitrous oxide. I've not tried breathing it in like that.. Does it shift consciousness into a pure non-dual state where you become conscious of various facets or is too fast and its really just a feeling of divine bliss that is too short lived? Have you guys ever tried a hot sauna for 10-20 minutes then an ice cold pool? I wonder what doing this prior to taking this would do but I know heat and cold is great for elevating consciousness.

God doesn't feel boredom, the only reason why it would want to leave perpetual bliss is because it wants to create or has the desire to experience a specific kind of form.

@Leo Gura Yeah jhanas are just a nifty little experience, in the grand scheme of things. Not particularly important. Some highly awake people apparently don’t experience them — I can tell they don’t because if they did they’d probably talk about them all the time because they really are quite remarkable and flashy (I mean, it’s basically on-demand maximum bliss which can be tailored to your liking to be either more or less exhilarating; calm; etc) and if there was a way to sell them you’d be the richest person ever (lol believe me I’ve tried).

Dear Reader, May you find beauty and bliss. My deepest wish is that you achieve your goals and dreams. This journal is my dedication to this forum. I want to give some love to this community.. I might cease to exist some day on this planet. But my soul is eternal. I'm sorry I'm a bit emotional while writing this. I have often wondered if I can contribute in some positive way. And I think this is something I can do if nothing at all. I can spread some love and try to uplift those who are having a bad time. Maybe this can be a good use of my body and mind.. So if you are reading this, trust me that someone always cares about you. You might be having a rough day. If someone said something mean to you, realize that they are human, probably they were never given love, maybe they had a bad childhood. Maybe they are discontent for some reason. Let lt go. Forgive those who hurt you. They are human just like you and will make human mistakes. We're here to heal each other.

Pure bliss, mdma might had an influence?

That's wonderful, funny last night I also encountered being transformed to alien-like consciousness and form that brought me to infinite bliss! But not something as elaborate and detailed like yours, but still wayyy beyond this world and what's possible without psychedelics. Look forward to exploring more. Psychedelics being illegal is a real disservice to humanity, hope that changes one day.

So right now I am in the middle of the core concepts section but I have been putting it off in the last weeks. Today I watched Leo’s video on increasing results of self help programs by 10x and some questions arised in my head. How much time should I plan for the lp course? Right now I am a student and can spend some hours a week on the course and doing the assignments but I don’t want to rush it. Also Leo said in his self help products video(title mentioned above) that you should retake self help courses at least 5-10 times. How frequently would you retake the lp course? Another question: How much time a week should you spend contemplating and journaling about the questions and concepts of the course and following my bliss? Thanks for reading!

^ This is wrong. As long as you perceive evil, and have any preferences or resistance to the present moment of any kind then you have not fully embodied the divine. The body is the vehicle of the divine but it needs to be purified for the divine flow seamlessly. Any judgment of any kind will disconnect the flow of the divine. I've confirmed this in my direct experience. You can reach psychedelic states as a baseline and stay there PERMANENTLY but to do that it takes modifications to your body. Your body is actually being modified in real time anyway based on the thoughts you entertain, the emotions you display, and the information you take in EVERYDAY you just aren't aware of it. To embody the divine you have to radically change what you take in as far as information. You have to change your belief systems. You have to focus everyday on mastering awareness as it is your divine ability to tune and synch in with the divine. The divine is a frequency. When you synch completely it will flow from your crown chakra all the way down to your feet and you will be in a bliss state as your baseline consciousness. All the Gurus you see have mastered these states. But to accomplish this modifications to your body HAVE to be done. Each time you open a chakra your body is modified. Each time you deconstruct your mind...your brain is modified. Now obviously all these things are inside the dream, but for the purposes of embodiment in the dream this is the path. Gurus are living in heaven on earth, you live life from within. With full embodiment....nothing bothers you...everything feels like love lol.

^ I doubt it my friend. I really think it has to do with truth addiction. I'm a truth addict. I really love being shown that I was wrong about something. In my last mystical experience I had to admit that I wasn't being honest about my feelings in life and I had to own that shit and admit every time I did it. It was hell it was hard, but the funny thing is...I loved it because it showed me another form of self-deception I had been doing on myself. So you see I am truth addict...I love to be proven wrong legitimately if it can help me be more honest. I'm addicted to truth like a crack fiend. I doubt that is genetics. But hey...I am open to being wrong and if I am wrong...that will send me into bliss....because it gets me to learn more truth. Truth is a lovely thing.....the greatest thing.....awww...truth.....how I love thee...

Hey everyone! I'm hiba Bear with me while I try my best to start this journal and make it easier for everyone else to understand. I'm turning 21 in November, 20th and I know this is going to be my loneliest birthday ever. In this journey of self actualization, at this particular point I feel like I have lost a lot. Especially people. June 2021 till August 2022 was a bliss. I finally got into a relationship with my best friend. He was the love of my life and we had a prior friendship of 2 years, met him in my A levels, and now I'm uni 3rd year. With him, came along a group of tight knit 3 more friends whom I cherished because they were the best people I got in my life as best friends...best I've ever come across. Inevitably we both shared 80 percent of the same circle of friends. It was romance, craze and lust this whole time..I lost myself in him, he was blinded by love too...he showered me with expensive gifts on my birthday, even my friends did...it was one of the best birthdays I ever had. We both spent deep intimate moments together this whole time...but only to come to this point where we saw each others darker sides. 3 weeks ago..we broke up. He was stubborn, unchanging, dominant stage blue, emotionally unavailable, and thought he was perfect. I was insecure, posessive, jealous and narcissistic. Both clashed...we ended on good terms. I felt like the world had been pulled from under my feet, I got so attached to him and it almost felt like he had died. I was devastated and lonely, because he was my bestfriend and lover both. My world revolved around him...it all ended just like that. My current friendship are weakening too..because I'm just not on the same level of mind as they are. I've changed a lot. However with this came the good. I was made aware of my shadows, my patterns and I came to realise the value of my family, my current degree, academia and social circle which all I avoided while being with him. I abandoned my plans of becoming a scientist just to fit his expectations of being a good housewife in the future. I was naive and dumb. After all of this...im trying to get back on track and focus on these things that are my primary focus in life. After this whole experience I don't know how but...I have changed as a person, I don't feel the same and it's sort of uncomfortable. Before I used to think with emotions, I was neurotic and full of anxiety, always pretentious. Now my mind naturally thinks in a logical way, reasons through decisions with my intuition and this is what brings out the best decisions for the long term. Before I had this change, I used to make stupid decisions with my emotions. I always thought something was wrong with me. Now it's like I know when to use my emotions and I also know how to accept them and sit with them. My mind doesn't control me now, I control it. This is huge for me. I feel like im slowly becoming stronger from the inside and people around me are pointing this out to me too. I have huge plans after my bachelors, I plan on doing PhD too. My current plans also include psychological mastery, and transcending stage orange to green and moving into yellow. Guys, I know I should be happy for such changes but it's getting hard for me to adjust. It feels like a new chapter in my life has started and the older one is slowly withering off. I'm in my limbo phase at the moment. I feel sad that I'm always losing people. Even my current friends are few,...they too aren't matching up to me. My mind rarely ever matches with another person's mind....this is why it is so hard for me to find new friends. It's rare that I find good and mature female companions, most females in my age group are petty, selfish and highly immature...and I can not stand such people. I find male friends more easily, i attract them easily....they tend to think somewhat more logocally and make way better companions (only if it doesnt end up in a relationship lol).but I yearn for that deeper female to female connection. It's very vitalisng to say the least. Most females either end up resenting me because of the attention I get or either hide their jealousy and pretend to be friends with me. Had previous experience like these. I sometimes feel so lonely...I feel like there's none like me here in Pakistan...no one who matches my mindset....everyone is just stubborn and selfish set in their own naive dogmatic minds...I need progressive friends...people who are into self actualization but I never find them. I beleive companionship is a vital part of life and I can not dismiss it. I want to start walking this academic journey with passion and strength but at the same time, I'm dying for a connection with like minded people, I yearn for deep connections as I move into stage green. People at my university put me on a pedestal, for some damn reason. This is why It's kind of hard ro make friends in my batch too.

It started a week ago maybe with this feeling as the boundaries of I are mixing with the space around me. Then two nights ago I felt this intense energy while singing as if it can shoot out the top of my head. I was frightened and I thought it will be temporary. Now it has been building it feels like with more and more intensity. I feel like my whole nervous system can shake from how intense it is. I have felt hot and cold energy in my spine. I feel as if I can make out vivid images of galaxies stars planets ect. I feel love and peace and bliss then Intensist as if my body is being ripped apart. It is super debilitating and I don't know what to do. Does anyone know about this or any advice.now it is day 3 and I feel it building as I wake up. It it is hard to talk, or do anything. Anyone know how long it can last or how to slow it down. I am not on any substances nor do I have a history of psychosis

that's not the real problem. I don't like relying on objects for orgasms. It's like every time I want an orgasm I will need to carry an object around. I don't want to feel that way. It makes me not feel the joy of pleasure. Even if I do it with my partner, I actually feel upset because it means they don't have ability to give me an orgasm. I have had guys give me an orgasm on the phone (when my boyfriend is in another city on work he would call to pleasure me), that kind of orgasm is an art, it's a skill, it needs proper escalation, emotional stimulation, buildup of sexual tension, foreplay, romance, sexual energy, development of deep intimacy, trust, knowing each other's sexual fantasies, knowing how to turn the other person on, sexual, emotional and psychological logic, connection, sexual fire and sexual chemistry, sexual compatibility in terms of arousal and climax. There's a whole gamut of factors and skills that need to be learned in order to give a proper arousal and orgasm. I don't want sex to be reduced to something as mere stimulation of organs. I miss out on the emotional and brain stimulation part of it if I took the support of porn and sex toys and technological objects. It's like taking diet pills and not exercising instead. Quick solution but exercise is much more wholesome. I want sex to be wholesome. Last time I had sex with my bf, we lasted for 3 hours in bed before we both orgasmed. The whole three hours were full pleasure and intense bonding and intimacy. The climax and orgasm were very wholesome and organic and extremely romantic and rewarding.. It was pure bliss not just stimulation. I could have achieved orgasm with clitoral stimulator or a vibrator within seconds and I could have jerked him off right away. But we didn't do that. Instead we took time to gradually seduce each other and bond in the process and finally reached orgasm that were long lasting and intense. My body was pulsating the whole time because he gave me multiple arousals. Such intense chemistry, intimacy, wholesome pleasurable orgasms with euphoria are not possible with such objects. In fact these toys ruin the fun by not allowing space for slow romantic escalation. They are meant for instant gratification and I don't want that. A real man gives me delayed gratification and that's much more natural, organic, wholesome, romantic, filled with his masculine seduction and very intense and powerful. Sometimes my boyfriend is out of town(for work) and those days can be difficult if I'm horny for him.