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    @zurew

    What does it mean when Leo says we all Godheads are playing collective dream? Does it mean in my dream other people are Soverign and infinite? Like for example we all are different infinities and each of us dreaming each other up in this collective dream?

    or Collective dream means separate dreams dreamt up by different godheads completely disconnected to each others dream?

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    @zurew What does it mean when Leo says we all Godheads are playing collective dream? Does it mean in my dream other people are Soverign and infinite? Like for example we all are different infinities and each of us dreaming each other up in this collective dream?

    or Collective dream means separate dreams dreamt up by different godheads completely disconnected to each others dream?

  4. Posted · Edited by machiavelli

    @zurew Multiple consciousness is not possible. Its first time on earth I am hearing somebody saying multiple absolute/ infinite consciousness .

    Every non-dual teacher said Consciousness is one and singular. The very fact LEO is imagining other Infinite consciousness , says he is imagining them and he was not in infinite state . Or he was somewhat was in lower consciousness state.

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    2 minutes ago, GreenWoods said:

    @machiavelli ok I was writing a bit confusing. 

    In posts on the previous page I was writing that each bubble is its own Infinity and when each bubble reaches infinite consciousness then each Infinite consciousness is seperate.

    So that's more in line with Leo's new video.

     

    But as I was writing earlier, I think these bubbles of consciousness can actually merge together. And in that sense they can share the same Infinite consciousness, rather than seperate Infinite consciousnesses. (I think that's also in line with Leo's new video)

    @machiavelli If one consciousness become absolute others would collapse onto it. There would be no room for others to exist. If not your consciousness is not absolute then.

    This was what inlightened1 said.

    There would be always parts left of yourself that couldnt collapse onto you because they were living their own lives.

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    Just now, GreenWoods said:

     

    The only difference is that I think that each part can be infinite too.

    @GreenWoods But why to make it separate infinity?

    Are you even getting what we are saying?

    Consciousness is singular. However he can fragment it into finite parts by imagining limitation. 

    All sentient beings conscious is finite and is part of larger God's consciousness.

    Its just infinite consciousness fragmenting its own singular infinite consciousness into finite consciousness which is part of same singular infinite consciousmess .

     

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    1 minute ago, GreenWoods said:

    Not all human selves are necessarily the same Infinity.

    Each God is its own Infinity.

    And together these Gods make up Absolute Infinity. 

    @GreenWoods How can these finite human selves be its own infinity? Whats the need of another infinity?

    When the thing can be achieved by one infinity.

    all human selves are finite. They can raise their consciousness though to infinity. But that infinity is same for all 7.5 billion humans.

    Its just finite fragmented parts of same singular infinite consciousness.

  10. Posted · Edited by machiavelli

    12 minutes ago, GreenWoods said:

    No.

    Your nature is Infinite. But it can shapeshift into a limited form.

    That's the form all these peoples are in.

    But each bubble can shapeshift back into Infinite consciousness. 

    And all these bubbles can do that simultaneously.

    @GreenWoods This is classical non-duality. And why claim separate infinities then, when in actual all human selves are same infinity?

    why to make more layers to infinity.

    inlightened1 is right . 

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    Just now, Razard86 said:

    Everytime you speak to someone or interacting....that is what you are doing. It is still solipsism.

    Everyone is still you. You are the only thing that exists, the only difference is you can make copies of yourself.

    @Razard86 what do you mean by making copies?

    I am infinity itself. There is nothing but my mind. Where the place left for copies?

    I cant be whole without those other copies.

    Unless all dreams are happening at different time . One dream at a time.

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    @GreenWoods But contemplation without direct conscious of is mental masturbation and is just assumptions.

    I am talking about leo too. At one point he says something and other time he changes and completely contradicts all his teaching.

    Many people are suffering mental disturbances due to you all guys.

    Stop this mental mastubation .

    Without directly experiencing truth by doing pschedelics you cant just guess and mislead people.

    THIS IS DANGEROUS TO MISLEAD PEOPLE.

    You are just mentally developing ideas in mind to explain away solipsism . Because you fear that it might be true.

     

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    @LastThursday You should be clear on your explanation. Because it would mean many consciousness.

    if you wanna count one consciousness as one human and another human as another consciousness then its fine. But remember its only one consciousness.

    However it can sub divide itself into finite parts by imagining imaginery separation. 

    This field of consciousness is infinite and is singular. 

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    Just now, LastThursday said:

    It's in the nature of consciousness. It can divide itself into many things: birds, cakes, other people.

    What can't God do?

    God's imagination is reality itself.

    If absolute infinity = God = consciousness, then yes. The separation is real because God's imagination = reality = existence.

    It really makes no sense to ask if God is one or many - this is just a convenience for language and thought. If it makes it easier both are true, there is both one consciousness and many consciousnesses.

    @LastThursday I was just confirming. You meant one singular infinite consciousness imagines separation but actually it is one. 

    all separation is imaginery and imagined by one singular infinite consciousness.

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    8 minutes ago, zurew said:

    When i say infinite parts, i mean you can divide yourself up as many times you want. If you want to divide yourself up infinite times, then you will imagine and experience of that.

    You can divide anything up as many times you want to.

    @zurew Still not understood. 

    I am saying I am having this dream which is same as nightly dream. And you dreaming separate dream which is same as nightly dream. But both are separated and disconnected.

    But I am not experiencing your dream.

    Nor you are experiencing my dream .

    But both dreams are dreamed up by a absolute conscious / singular mind which is aware of one dream at a time right?

     

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    1 minute ago, GreenWoods said:

    Yes. And animals, plants, atoms,... too.

    @GreenWoods But all these smaller selves are finite . How can you say 7.5 billion people on earth are in infinite states simultaneously?

    I cannot do anything I wish. Nor you cannot do. We are both finite humans. And that applies to all other sentient beings.

    Are you trying to say there is only one absolute infinity who sub divided itself/ ( imagine to)  into finite parts or finite consciousness and after we die we each merge back into Absolute consciousness.

     

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    1 minute ago, GreenWoods said:

    I believe it is possible to be sovereign.

    But I believe it is also possible to give up sovereignty and then your experience is no longer exclusively determined by you, but by other Gods too.

    And I think that's what's currently happening. 

    Infinitely many Gods co-existing simultaneously and affecting each other.

    @GreenWoods You mean on earth 7.5 billion people are having our own experiences and POV simulatenously? Including aliens in other galaxies and other universes?

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    3 minutes ago, GreenWoods said:

    To create a shared reality these Gods would coordinate their imaginations.

    So if you are talking with other people and one person throws a ball into the air, then every God imagines that ball flying into the air.

    It's ultimately still you who imagines that ball, but you imagine it not as a result of your own intent but as a result of someone's else intent. 

    If you keep all your sovereignty you just imagine whatever you want.

    But if you want to co-exist with other Gods, you give up part of your sovereignty and include imaginations as a result of other God's intents.

    @GreenWoods So whats your stance. Do you believe you are soverign or you believe others are having their own experiences and pov simultaneously with you?

    Do you believe that you are the only dreamer dreaming everything up in your dream and no one is tapping into your dream? Or you believe others dreams can interact?