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Yes it's difficult to explain that everything is perfect... but you can still wake up from the illusion.
99.9% will never understand including the Mods.
That's why it's not judging but sharing.
There is no right or wrong.❤
The young confident bucks won't get it.
The old stuck in their ways hippies won't get it either.
The middle pathers have a chance.
My goodness it's a lonely road... good luck TROOPS...❤
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54 minutes ago, Display_Name said:@VeganAwake We all know this. What are you arguing? We're talking relative talking points here so drop the act please. Thanks
Oh okay thanks rodger that...❤
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1 hour ago, Raptorsin7 said:@VeganAwake What would you call the thing typing for VeganAwake?
It is just a conditioned human body sharing a message within THIS.
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44 minutes ago, LfcCharlie4 said:@VeganAwake and the truth goes far deeper than a realization of No Self?
Everything is far deeper for you... Enlightenment is not a future event I keep telling you ...don't you realize it's what already is ❤
Right here and now, you are in the realized state. But you try to judge it through desires and mind concepts, hence your inability to apperceive it and abide in it.
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18 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:@VeganAwake you do realize that by using your own logic you are using "spiritual ego" right now?
"Awakening and Enlightenment is completely misunderstood on this thread?"
You are trying to change or correct something that is already perfect ?
Wait are you trying to correct something as well ?...
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5 minutes ago, Raptorsin7 said:@LfcCharlie4 @VeganAwake Lol i've been following your guys' back and forths' for a while. The title of the thread made me smile
I'm glad it made you smile although there is no you and there is no me .. ?
Three things that cannot be hidden for long: The Sun; The moon; and Truth
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@LfcCharlie4 Rupert has an amazing message but seems to struggle getting it out clearly.. sometimes it sounds like he gets confused in his own message.
Here's one of your own from the UK clears things up pretty quick ?
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I didn't misinterpret anything you said.
There isn't an I and there isn't a you...that's the illusion(Maya)
You can't see the illusion clearly while immersed in it.
The absolute is simply sharing a message..❤
There is a strong and persistent ego there... you can't see it because you're immersed in it.
Your ego is also clever that's why it tries to put others that threaten your ego's survival strategy lower than you on the LOC so you can dismiss their claims much easier.
If you kill the messenger you don't have to take seriously the implications of the message.
And the message is you are being controlled by your ego... trust in this I used to be one so I can spot it a mile away...❤
Remember your ego isn't just negative things... it also wants to help people, it wants to make the world a better place, it wants to create more love... this is known as the spiritual ego.
You can always spot the ego by its persistent wanting more more love more money more power or enlightenment more of everything there's no end.
The ego is never happy with the way things are it always wants something to change.. you can decide to keep running on the hamster wheel or get off it's up to you either way it doesn't really matter good luck my friend..❤
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2 minutes ago, Jkhv1 said:I wouldn't really say all religions are detours on your path to enlightenment... I'm not part of one myself, but various practices and techniques from different religions have helped me along the path.
Whilst religion might be corrupted to some extent, I think that it's important not to overlook the golden nuggets in them.
I totally agree.. a detour shouldn't be looked at as negative. It's just a distraction to what is already the case ❤
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I gathered some quotes from enlightened Masters...so good ❤
Right here and now, you are in the realized state. But you try to judge it through desires and mind concepts, hence your inability to apperceive it and abide in it.
-Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj“Suffering just means you’re having a bad dream. Happiness means you’re having a good dream. Enlightenment means getting out of the dream altogether.”
― Jed McKenna“So the single most vital step on your journey toward enlightenment is this: learn to dis-identify from your mind. Every time you create a gap in the stream of mind, the light of your consciousness grows stronger. One day you may catch yourself smiling at the voice in your head, as you would smile at the antics of a child. This means that you no longer take the content of your mind all that seriously, as your sense of self does not depend on it.”
― Eckhart Tolle, The Power of Now: A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment“Does one really have to fret about enlightenment?
No matter what road I travel, I’m going home.”
― Shinsho“No spiritual master who ever walked the earth has anything on you. You’re the complete package, the real deal. You just don’t remember it yet.”
― Carrie Triffet, The Enlightenment Project“Looking forward” to what you think enlightenment might be at some grand point in the future keeps you from seeing the truth of its presence right now.”
― Enza Vita“Those who are actively seeking enlightenment will not find it because the act of looking for it is the distraction from it.”
― Enza Vita“In order to know the Truth, you have to be out of your mind.”
― Vivian Amis“No matter how strange things get, know that with every breath, you are becoming that which you have always been.”
― Eric Micha’el Leventhal“Because of an innocent misunderstanding you think that you are a human being in the relative
world seeking the experience of oneness, but actually you are the One expressing itself as the experience of being a human being.”
― Adyashanti“Whatever you think you are, that’s not it.”
― Adyashanti“The first stage of the awakening journey is the calling. The calling arrives when we first feel that spiritual impulse that galvanizes our attention. All of a sudden we sense a greater mystery to life that we seek to experience more deeply; it literally calls us.”
― Adyashanti, Resurrecting Jesus: Embodying the Spirit of a Revolutionary MysticKeep quiet. Simply keep still. Don’t give any thought to your mind for one second. Don’t stir any thought and don’t make any effort, for just one second. If you understand what I speak about tell me what will happen when you don’t stir a single thought from the mind and you don’t make any effort. Just these two things; no effort and not giving any thought to the mind! Just for one instant. What will happen?
–PapajiAwakening or Self-Realization
“Your own Self-Realization is the greatest service you can render the world.”
–Ramana Maharshi“When you are truly awakened, you have completely stopped trying to become awakened. You simply are. You know that you did not locate awakening; awakening located you.”
― Enza Vita“You aren’t actually a someone, a person, who is conscious. You are the Awake space of awareness itself, within which all the “thought up” entities in your world appear. Out of all these imagined entities, you have simply made the mistake of thinking that one of them is you.”
― Enza Vita“Realization is not about you, the wave, realizing it is ocean. The ocean realizes itself in you and reveals itself to have never been just a wave. Nothing changes except the falling away of a false belief.”
― Enza VitaWhen the mind adjusts to simply staying here, then that mind is not called mind any more. It’s just Self. It’s only ever Self.
–Mooji“Being here really is just the invitation to rest as Being. There is nothing you have to do. It is not an invitation to become. You will not be scrutinized, your actions compared with those of others. That’s just unicorn food. Let your river flow as it pleases. Simply observe and recognize that all is unfolding spontaneously when that inner journalist- the ego, is exposed as a myth.”
–Mooji
“Why struggle to open a door between us when the whole wall is an illusion?”
― Rumi“All that is necessary to awaken to yourself as the radiant emptiness of spirit is to stop seeking something more or better or different, and to turn your attention inward to the awake silence that you are.”
― Adyashanti“When you get out of the driver’s seat, you find that life can drive itself, that actually life has always been driving itself. When you get out of the driver’s seat, it can drive it self so much easier—it can flow in ways you never imagined. Life becomes almost magical. The illusion of the “me” is no longer in the way. Life begins to flow, and you never know where it will take you.”
― Adyashanti, ‘The End of Your World’“It has nothing to do with effort. Just turn away, look between the thoughts, rather than at the thoughts. When you happen to walk in a crowd, you do not fight every man you meet, you just find your way between. When you fight, you invite a fight. But when you do not resist, you meet no resistance. When you refuse to play the game, you are out of it.”
― Nisargadatta Maharaj“A quiet mind is all you need.”
― Nisargadatta Maharaj“Day by day become more and more intimate with the inner stillness, joy and love which is the fragrance your own pure heart. Keep quiet.”
–MoojiEnlightenment, Satori, Moksha, Nirvana
“Feel nothing, know nothing, do nothing, have nothing, give up all to God, and say utterly, ‘Thy will be done.’ We only dream this bondage. Wake up and let it go.”
― Swami Vivekananda“Knowing others is Wisdom, knowing yourself is Enlightenment”
― Lao Tzu“We are here to awaken from the illusion of our separateness.”
-Thich Nhat Hanh
“Enlightenment is: absolute cooperation with the inevitable.”
― Anthony de Mello“You cannot still your mind – it is the nature of mind to keep moving. You can only be the stillness that is beyond the mind and be free from thoughts, yet watch the mind experiencing the true essence of life. Transcending the mind is Sanyasa (detachment or renunciation) and freedom that comes with it is Nirvana (liberation).”
― Rashmit Kalra“Being enlightened ironically means realizing that there is no separate entity that can be enlightened or unenlightened.”
― Enza Vita“The moment you open yourself completely to the love that awaits your conscious embrace, you are no longer there to receive it.”
― Eric Micha’el LeventhalDo not think you will necessarily be aware of your own enlightenment.
–Dogen“Enlightenment is a destructive process. It has nothing to do with becoming better or being happier. Enlightenment is the crumbling away of untruth. It’s seeing through the facade of pretense. It’s the complete eradication of everything we imagined to be true.”
― Adyashanti“In the end it’s all very simple. Either we give ourselves to Silence or we don’t.”
― Adyashanti“Enlightenment is nothing more than the complete absence of resistance to what is. End of story.”
― Adyashanti, Emptiness Dancing“God dwells in you, as you, and you don’t have to ‘do’ anything to be God-realized or Self-realized, it is already your true and natural state.” Just drop all seeking, turn your attention inward, and sacrifice your mind to the One Self radiating in the Heart of your very being. For this to be your own presently lived experience, Self-Inquiry is the one direct and immediate way.”
–Sri Ramana Maharshi“All religions are detours on your path to enlightenment”.
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Awakening and Enlightenment is completely misunderstood on this thread?
An egoic self agenda always wants things to be different. It's never satisfied with the current situation.
There is no end to the egoic self agendas needs and desires. It will keep one running on the hamster wheel forever. Once you get the new job promotion hot girlfriend a new car there will just be something else the ego will start seeking.
The trick is to get off the hamster wheel.
If something aligns with the egos desires it's labeled as good, if it doesn't it's labeled as bad that's how the ego works. The ego is the judger!!
Awakening is recognizing that the ego is running the show not going along with it holding its hand.
There is nothing that needs to be changed. The absolute doesn't make mistakes it's exactly the way it needs to be... for how else could it be.
Liberation is freeing yourself from the egoic self agendas constant desires that's something need be done, something needs to be different.
You can't hit a homerun when you haven't even understood how the games played yet...
Actually nothing needs to be done you can continue playing around in Maya for the rest of your life because it's all within the absolute and makes no difference whatsoever. ❤
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3 hours ago, WelcometoReality said:Lovely <3. But isn't all meaning a construction and therefore relative?
yes but no need to let that understanding get in the way of enjoying life and all of its beauty and ahhh. ❤
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Seeing things with childlike eyes and innocence... love it ❤
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"Every solution that comes from the egoic mind is driven by the idea that there is a problem, and the solution becomes an even greater problem than what it was trying to solve. What you resist persists.
In today's world, the vast majority of people who are engaged in religious or spiritual practices, such as yoga, prayer, meditation, chanting, or any kind of ritual, are practising techniques which are conditioned. Which means they are just part of the ego construct. The seeking and the activity isn't the problem; thinking you have found the answer in some external form is the problem. Spirituality in its most common form is no different than pathological thinking that is going on everywhere. It is further agitation of the mind. More human doing, as opposed to human being. The ego construct wants more money, more power, more love, more of everything. Those on the so called spiritual path desires to be more spiritual, more awake, more equanimous, more peaceful, more enlightened"
- Samadhi (Maya illusion of the self)
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24 minutes ago, OmniYoga said:@VeganAwake
understanding consciousness
realizing truth, (if there is such a thing)
but any wisdom or insight about true nature of reality or self would be helpful along the waymainly that
This is a great video If you haven't watched it already. ❤
Sometimes the very Act of seeking is what hides the truth from Plain Sight...
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On 1/1/2020 at 3:25 AM, Gneh Onebar said:When I had my psychedelic breakthrough it felt a lot like remembering what I truly am. The epiphany was like: Holy shit, I know all this, but I forgot it at some point.
The sense of I that forgot and the I that remembered is Maya the illusion of self.
There is no I...
The I that thinks it knows something is the same I that thinks it's the absolute. That is still Maya the illusion of the self ❤
See what happens often is someone has a mystical experience and has a glimpse of No Self. Then the sense of self slowly creeps back in and the person starts calling it their big self or their absolute self.
This is simply still Maya the illusion creeping back in and taking back over again, but this time a little sneakier often known as the spiritual ego.
This is exactly where 99.9% of people that have had mystical experiences or glimpses are. Without the proper understanding they will remain there for the rest of their lives because they think they are already home. It makes sense why would you continue seeking if you think you already have the answer.
This is why I love this quote:
" The biggest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance, it's the illusion of knowledge"
Basically if you think you already have the answer you will not be open minded to receive the truth.
The separate self can never except this message because the message is quite literally the destruction of the separate self and it does not compute. The separate self says seek but do not find... it wants to survive!!
❤ I hope this helps!! The biggest thing to recognize is that: At the end of the day it is all just THIS or The Absolute happening there is no right or wrong...
" nothing really matters"
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57 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:@Aaron p Yes God is exposed as One Being. Whole Self. Eternal.
@VeganAwake There is One. One which is All.
Yes there is no "I" because God has no sense of self. But IT exists. But that is no matter of beleif. You have to really Invert yourself. ?Real actual inversion. Takes practises. So there is an actual spiritual path.
No guru can do that for you. Sorry.
Yes you're right God needs to practice a lot...hmmm
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10 minutes ago, Aaron p said:@zeroISinfinity reading this after my DMT trip is so funny. Nobody is enlightened because the only thing that people can do is disappear, it is God who is getting enlightened lol
Notice disappearing implies that there was someone there to begin with.
There never was an Aaron inside the body... that was a misunderstanding. ❤
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9 hours ago, Consilience said:This one is the twisty part but you gotta love it.
Psychedelics let one peer into facets of consciousness that are relative truths, not absolute. Ironically, understanding absolute truth is not the same as understanding the depth of intelligence and form at play here. At least this is what I suspect. It seems it may be possible that enlightenment and understanding the depth of reality are two different paths.
Relative and absolute are the same thing. It's all The Absolute/Non duel.
There is always only one thing happening. "THIS" There is nothing else.
Either you believe you are a separate person located inside the body. Duality
Or you wake up and realize the illusion of self/Maya. Non-duality
It's so basic that it's overlooked... there are no individuals... there never was, it is Just Energy compiled up in the body creating the illusion of a separate self. The separate self seeks for fulfillment not realizing that it's already complete and that it never left the source.
An awakened individual recognizes the separate self was an illusion... they were never separate and never needed to seek anything for completion. They never left home so they were always complete. It was just a mistaken identity the whole time. ❤
"The separation never occurred" - A Course in Miracles
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1 hour ago, zeroISinfinity said:There is no enlightened person.
Conciousness is enlightened. So be it, how it feels?
There is no Awareness. Wait what?!??
Spoiling fun oh you.... You like this don't you. I do lol.
Without actual Self Realization it is just not possible. All talk counts for nothing
Energy dreaming apparently...
Its truly unknown ❤
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There are no individuals sharing information with other individuals... that's an illusion.
THIS is all that's happening and it's perfect and complete. There is no one that is in control of anything. ❤

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Pretending to know is the sickness and Samadhi is the cure.
Please stop pretending, it's so obvious ?