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❤But Is it possible that the conditioned mind has also created the idea of a creator with no beginning and no end?

So what created the Creator?

The seeker/sense of self desperately seeks for a better experience in the future. It has an unquenchable thirst that can never be satisfied. See the permanent quenching of thirst would be the end of the seeker. So it sets up an unachievable goal to constantly seek, but never fully find. It sets up its own circle jerk under the radar to perpetuate its illusory existence. It's very cunning. It has a slew of defense mechanisms or gate guards to distract, deter and camouflage the freedom that's longed for. It wants its cake and to eat it too.... it simply cannot fathom or recognize its own unreality, because that would be its demise. It wants to be there when what's longed-for is found. It wants to be the Satisfied Seeker. ❤

@Bazooka Jesus the craziest thing is nobody really knows anything and nothing really matters. Man what a trip

Yahtzee you got it, there is no real hierarchy in anything ? The collapse/uphold are actually identical because it's an illusion. Awakening is an non-happening. It's the death of something that was never real... so it's complete bs if you will. ❤

"The Great Way is not difficult for those who have no preferences. When love and hate are both absent, everything becomes clear and undisguised. Make the smallest distinction, however, and heaven and earth are set infinitely apart. If you wish to see the truth, then hold no opinions for, or against, anything" - HSIN HSIN MING

Sounds like you are looking for a quick fix which is very unrealistic for 99% of humanity. But always sought after. One of Leo's favorite lines that I love is "Awareness alone is Curative" The more you become aware of the conditioning and conditions that create suffering, the easier it is to understand and have unconditional love for even the most outrageous behaviors. For example today in the Navy I had this guy flipping out over something silly and I recognized immediately that his superiors had been pushing him too hard for Perfection and he was trying to uphold this unrealistic expectation causing him a lot of unneeded stress. I recognized I had been exactly in those shoes before. Explore yourself, watch your mind and notice the conditioned responses and recognize those responses in others also. Recognize the conditioning of this body mind organism and you will recognize it in all other body mind organisms. Peace and understanding are not separate things ❤

Emptying the glass completely...? "The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance- it's the illusion of knowledge" Simply put believing you already know the answer hides what's already the case. Unknowing ❤

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This is spot on....? Yes Awakening, Enlightenment, Nirvana is just a story... The individual that is seeking so desperately for a better experience in the future recognizes its own unreality thus revealing the futility of its desperate attempts to find a better experience in the future. The once solid brick house of 'ME', becomes a wobbly unstable house of cards ready to topple over at any further deep introspection.... it begins to collapse, and once the bottom of the bucket falls out it will never hold water again ❤

The conditioned concept of healthy or unhealthy is what goes bye-bye. It's the disentangling from the socially conditioned mind Matrix known as ME. ❤

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It's a run away train that never had a driver. ❤

It's becoming more common with the younger generation and thus less awkward more and more. I think there'll be a big shift in the way most eat in the next 10 or 20 years. "Three things cannot be hidden for long the Sun the moon and Truth"

LSD can create new pathways of thinking and perception. Can shake up the normal habitual ways of thinking and perceiving. Just have fun, expectations are kind of silly cuz you never know what you're going to get. ❤

? ❤ And when the 'ME' is clearly seen through its simultaneously recognized there is nothing to throw away because it was an unreal identification from the start. The once solid brick wall of ME turns into a wobbly House of Cards and starts collapsing. And once the bottom of the bucket falls out, it never holds water again

I get what you're saying ❤ There is nothing there, it's complete nothingness. And words can't describe nothing. ❤

Interesting story, fortunately the 'I' is an illusion. its a tuff break for the sense of 'I' though. ❤

All your thoughts,choices and actions stem from past conditioning... The way you were taught by society to interact, think and make choices has all been programmed into your mind by societal conditioning.

Recognizing this 'YOU' character only exists in conditioned thought.

The word truth assumes that there is something false. There's nothing true or false because there is no real point or purpose to anything. Only conditioned thoughts label true or false right or wrong good or bad. Nobody knows this!! ❤

Yeah man it's every experience... it's THIS experience! You are trying to find it somewhere else because you believe THIS isn't it! ❤

Here is one of my favorites Robert Wolfe, who seems more of a neutral figure but interestingly enough told me on the phone that Tony Parsons is a great teacher. Any teaching that cuts directly through the illusion is key. ?